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Old 26-02-09   #11
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The plinth area does not really give the floor usable area, but hidden by way of walls, partitions etc. For the actual/practical living, I still feel, the carpet area is a better way of comparison rather than the plinth area. For comparison purpose between different properties, one may have to arrive at the Rs. per sq. ft. of carpet area taking into account all expenses till possession of the flat.

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The plinth area does not really give the floor usable area, but hidden by way of walls, partitions etc. For the actual/practical living, I still feel, the carpet area is a better way of comparison rather than the plinth area. For comparison purpose between different properties, one may have to arrive at the Rs. per sq. ft. of carpet area taking into account all expenses till possession of the flat.

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I understood both the points made by U and Mr. abk.

But What Mr. abk has said makes more sense.

If you prefer carpet area, there is the chance of losing quality construction. Because there is the chance of builder constructing 4.5" wall in between the house.

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People normally look at the saleable area indicated by the builders and do not really work out and check up the carpet area from the floor plans. A builder selling a flat of 1500 sq. ft. with a carpet area of say 70%, i.e., 1050 sq. ft. as compared to another builder who sells 1400 sq. ft. with a carpet area of 75% also will come to 1050 sq. ft. We should rather compare on the rate arrived at on the carpet area/sq.ft of the buildings and select/decide. Afterall, the carpet area is the real floor area availble for the buyer to live in the flat. wiseman, nataraj and other active members may give further guidance to other members.

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Do you know, the architecture of the flat matters. So you might have a very spacious hall but you may not able to fit in the TV and Dining table in a usable way. So forget about plinth carpet argument. There is much more than that. One needs to look at the drawing (assuming it is strictly followed for construction) place articles and see how it fits. Remember usability is the key to a home, not space, not bricks!
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Do you know, the architecture of the flat matters. So you might have a very spacious hall but you may not able to fit in the TV and Dining table in a usable way. So forget about plinth carpet argument. There is much more than that. One needs to look at the drawing (assuming it is strictly followed for construction) place articles and see how it fits. Remember usability is the key to a home, not space, not bricks!
Dear friend,

When I talk about carpet area, it is to be seen coupled with usability and should have reasonable areas for the halls, bed room, kitchen, toilet etc. A very big hall with small bed rooms or kitchen or vice versa is not what I am talking about. For example, it we take a 1400 sq. ft. flat, assuming a carpet area of say about 1000-1050 sq. ft. ( for this flat, the typical areas can be:
1. Living hall approx. 200 sq. ft.
2. Dining hall 120 sq. ft.
3. Kitchen 100 sq. ft.
4. Bed I 150 sq. ft.
5. Bed II 130 sq. ft.
6. Bed III 120 sq. ft.
7. Balcony 40 sq. ft. one for kitchen, one for hall or one each for 2 bed rooms.
8. Balance for 3 toilets.
Don't you feel, this will be a fairly good configuration from utility point of view.

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I understood both the points made by U and Mr. abk.

But What Mr. abk has said makes more sense.

If you prefer carpet area, there is the chance of losing quality construction. Because there is the chance of builder constructing 4.5" wall in between the house.

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Dear friend,
In as much as the main load bearing members like columns and beams are of concrete of appropriate size, the thickness of wall either 4.5 or 6 inches, should it matter much if the bricks used are of good & proper quality. After all, these are only partition walls and of no load bearing nature. A thicker wall only contribute to reduced carpet area. At the same time, if some one goes for say 3 inches by putting the bricks thickness up in the wall is not good.

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In as much as the main load bearing members like columns and beams are of concrete of appropriate size, the thickness of wall either 4.5 or 6 inches, should it matter much if the bricks used are of good & proper quality. After all, these are only partition walls and of no load bearing nature. A thicker wall only contribute to reduced carpet area. At the same time, if some one goes for say 3 inches by putting the bricks thickness up in the wall is not good.

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Dear KS

What you said is correct. But If you calculate carpet area to arrive at a certain Sft., certainly the promoter will quote more price.

Consider A flat of 1050 sft (carpet area) of certain number of rooms. If you calculate the plinth area of this flat, it will be of bigger size because of the walls coming in between. (from the promoters angle and charged accordingly)

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look at my posts again.the plinth area is the actual area you own exclusively
which is your moneys worth. the carpet area is subject to design as i said a 1000 sq ft 2 bhk will have more carpet area then a 3bhk 1000 sq ft flat both with the same plinth area.
now tell me why you will look at carpet area rather than plinth area.
the bigger the size of the flat with bigger rooms will have more % of carpet area than smaller flats.
a 850 sq ft 2BHK will have less % of carpet area than a 1300 sq ft 2bhk.whereas if the common area is same the plinth area % would be same.
I am not talking about the quality of construction .it is simple we need to compare any two things on a parameter which is equal or normalised for both.
as i have told carpet area is a variable which is subject to design or plan of the house.
wheras the plinth area is the area handed over to you which is the value for the money you paid.
consider this a 10 X 10 room 100 sq ft has 40 feet of wall(perimeter)
whereas the same 100 sq ft if built as 20 X 5 will have 5o feet of wall(perimeter) so more wall space for same area enclosed.
this is what will mislead you if you compare carpet area.
it is upto you th choose a good design,but the value for money is plinth area.
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Dear friend,

When I talk about carpet area, it is to be seen coupled with usability and should have reasonable areas for the halls, bed room, kitchen, toilet etc. A very big hall with small bed rooms or kitchen or vice versa is not what I am talking about. For example, it we take a 1400 sq. ft. flat, assuming a carpet area of say about 1000-1050 sq. ft. ( for this flat, the typical areas can be:
1. Living hall approx. 200 sq. ft.
2. Dining hall 120 sq. ft.
3. Kitchen 100 sq. ft.
4. Bed I 150 sq. ft.
5. Bed II 130 sq. ft.
6. Bed III 120 sq. ft.
7. Balcony 40 sq. ft. one for kitchen, one for hall or one each for 2 bed rooms.
8. Balance for 3 toilets.
Don't you feel, this will be a fairly good configuration from utility point of view.

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What you are saying is fine. I aint talking about that alone. I am talking about DESIGN. So if you have both your bedrooms on one side of the hall that is different from one bedroom on either side. There are many such special features.
Infact buying a house is not an easy vocation. Very often you must be lucky to hit the right one. Unfortunately many dont even care about it. They buy based on pure numbers. Numbers are good to evaluate the approximate worth but not the actual price. For example in a 40 feet road the same flat has a higher worth than on a 20ft road. Why?
Usability.
Usability is a feature that cant be discussed in one line, it needs one to plan his thoughts before the act. So if you dont look at the plan and find out if it fits your WAY OF LIFE, you might end up in pain.
Ofcourse all these comments are meant for decent flats not for a two bedroom built in 600sqft where it is at best a rat hole.
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Dear friend,

What you have explained is also true and to be considered while deciding a flat buy.

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Its really useful discussion ..thanks a lot...
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