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Nipsy bhai - ATS and chintels are finally sold off?


So the company itself did not find enough buyers at these prices for the past 2-3 months now and you are telling me that the 'nagina' that you are holding in your hand has appreciated?
For all I can imagine I can hire a set of callers, calling up property owners asking them if they want to sell their properties at inflated prices. Voila! My property has given 30% return!
How many sales have happened buddy? How naive can you be?

If I remember right on this forum only, folks are ready to sell easily at 100 psf less than the company rate. Builders bought stuff at borrowed money and are in perilious financial state, Don't you think you have been infected with the builders disease? Kahan 12% pe finance utha rahe ho aur kahan 100 psf kam ho gayi price.

Some people say Woh 6 flat wala aur koi nahi ATS/chintel ka hi marketing bandhu hai. Abhi 200 psf discount wala bhi aata hi hoga forum pe aur 1000 psf discount wale apne builder bhai bhi. Just try selling off your diamond at a premium and you will understand what i am saying.

Just between you and me: In last 24 hours, another 500 properties in ggn added for sale on the site 99Axxx. Haan the day you want to unload your 'collectors naginas' at a stop loss price please PM me.


PS: I invest in properties but yeh koi shauk nahi hai ki kisi bhi daam pe le lun. Abhi aap property develop karwao, when its ready for possesion till registry - thats the time when you should start knocking - just like the odd 22k of them increasing by 400 per day. I am not at all ashamed of who I am, in fact I cherish there are so many like me all across India who are not buying properties - letting everyone know who the Boss!
Builders cannot fool folks by increasing prices any more, the sales figures show the farce too well.


For the RE Builder: Agar 20-30% returns aa rahe hotey to jo develop kar raha woh samaj sewa thode kar raha hai ki aapko bech raha hai. He should be keeping these naginas with himself. He would beat Facebook agar List ho jaye to. Now take a look at their financial condition, somethiing wrong?

And you are telling me that buying these naginas from him, you are getting 20-30% returns, risk free, tax free to aap shakshat vishnu ke avatar ho! A classic case of internet bubble where the companies making the goods were in tatters but the scores of websites selling them online were commanding ever higher premiums.

I think for these type of returns you should Bet the house over it!! Oh apologies, these are houses right so you have literally bet the House. Congrats man!

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MANOJa

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novice3675

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manu813

Bhai Log,

I have been following IREF threads from long time now and to my surprise same discussion happens in every new launch project.. In following order :-

For :- Some swear by the Brand Name
Against :- Most say It is over-valued nahin bikega

Finally :- Koi bhai aake batata hai it is sold out ..

Case studies:-
Mahindra (D'way first launch)
Indibulls Centrum (First launch)
Alpha G
Chintels
ATS
Revanta
DLF plots (Sec-91)


I feel many people got good profits from 2004 - 2009 in GGN RE investments so they have conviction that they will make good money in new launches, Although now builders are already eating investor's pie by launching at inflated prices but matter of fact is still these projects are getting sold whether we like or not ..

People are buying anything from builders which they think are good and can deliver and there is less demand for projects from builders which have shown unethical dealings or delays....


In nutshell new launch prices are only rising . I haven't seen any new launch at less price then the preceding launch price in the vicinity...Always there are BULLS(Short term traders and long time investors) and BEARS (Waiting for the right opportunity) ..

I feel there is lot of upside potential left in GGN RE market but it is Long Term story (days of doubling investment in a year are gone although people may earn short term profits by trading on small premiums)

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nipsy

Thanks 4 ur post but pls do get my query right.
I'm now talking of your next door dallas who are here for short term trading but of those serious investors who still look to RE as a decent portfolio.
So what advise can you give them on this 3C's project! And think without being a conservative who gave up all hopes for daily profit booking.

nipsy

Lchand-bhai'

heard you know about 3C's strategy & have shared quite a lot of insight on the Noida forum.If possible for you, can you throw some light on 3C's price strategy /positioning vis-a-vis other players.

nipsy

Why investment in property is both lucrative and safe - The Economic Times

The year 2011 was a bad one for equity as an asset class. Investors not only lost a part of their portfolio due to the decline in the market prices of shares but also their confidence in that asset class. The price erosion in equity was sharp and swift, and left many investors shaken enough to think twice before venturing into equity again.

For such investors, property is one of the safest and most usable avenue, and an investment with reasonable yield. Property has consistently out-performed traditional investment options such as bonds and with no correlation to the volatility in the stock markets. Today, property is the only physical asset that offers stability, simplicity and good returns.

Rent generates cash flows

A common approach to property as an investment option is a single-family home, apartment, office or retail space to be rented out. On renting out a property, you can benefit from not only an appreciation in capital value over time, but also from the rental cash flows. Such investments are to an extent inflation-protected , because as operating costs increase, the rental income increases too, compensating the additional expense outgo.

Plan in advance

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Loan to fund property

If property identified costs more than amount set aside, you can go for a home loan. Property is one of the few investments where loans are easily available for it. The home loan can be borrowed on the proposed property itself or can be borrowed on other owned properties.

Care must be taken to ensure the EMIs are funded for the tenure of the loan. If your income is large enough to pay the EMIs, you will have a good comfort zone. Or else, the rental income can be diverted towards the EMIs. It can also be a combination of both.

Create wealth

When a property is purchased and tenant identified the time and work spent on the property is considerably reduced. As time goes by the EMIs have to be paid. If well planned in advance, this process can go on smoothly for many years.

Time works magic on property that is purchased after a through analysis of its location and quality . The capital appreciation is huge. Some properties appreciate more than others and it's imperative that you identify such properties to create wealth. Look around and you can see many people who have generated their wealth through property.

Retirement corpus

You can look at property in two ways. If the loan is paid off, the rental income can be a pension plan. If the rental income in insufficient , you can sell the property to en-cash the capital gains. This can be a retirement corpus. The asset can be sold and the money invested in debt funds close to retirement to give steady returns.

Fundamentally, property is a safe investment because it's a tangible asset. Due to this physical aspect, you can never lose with property even in the worst case scenario.

Property offers additional immediate benefits in the form of short-term rents or personal use rather than just price appreciation, making it an attractive asset class.

psambher

Days of long term are gone. We want to get up tomorrow morning as a millionaire.

MANOJa

The fact of the matter is that some D e way Brokers r promoting D e way properties everywhere . They r nowhere talking about the current ills plaguing the D e way .

Such people have the habit of blaming everything on the veterans . Aaj headache hain, stomach ache hain, neend nahi aa rahi hain, all because of the veterans .

nipsy

And that......

BUILDERS ARE GETTING SMARTER DAY BY DAY..
.............and best know the "REAL" dhandha of RE