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Old 28-03-10   #1261
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The basic reason for these rates are high values of land and non availability of clear title too. Just for an example, we are tracking for a land in baner and you would be surprised to know the walk away price of it is 1800 psft (leave aside 500psft) that too on the other side of highway.
Seems you are looking at NA land.
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Seems you are looking at NA land.
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Yes. For residential & commercial development NA is a must. Infact we would prefer to have plan sanctioned over the plot which ensures clear title.
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The basic reason for these rates are high values of land and non availability of clear title too. Just for an example, we are tracking for a land in baner and you would be surprised to know the walk away price of it is 1800 psft (leave aside 500psft) that too on the other side of highway. Now tell me if the land cost itself is 1800 psft, 10% will be acquired by PMC under amenity space, decent construction cost with development charges would go for 1500 psft then how can one expect a rate of 2000 psft in baner ?
Here is where the catch is. If you build 10 to 15 flats one over the other on a single piece of land the cost of the land gets distributed among the 15 flat owners. But Builders keep misguiding people with their faulty logic and make heavy profits. Plus, the 1500 psft construction cost is purposely projected on the higher side.

Some do it in bland way some do it in very sophisticated and educated way. But everyone finally does one thing, "MISGUIDE!"

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Here is where the catch is. If you build 10 to 15 flats one over the other on a single piece of land the cost of the land gets distributed among the 15 flat owners.
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One cannot build more than FSI allowed by municipal corporation. We need to leave area for open space, set backs, front margins etc. For e.g. for a plot of 3000 sft the total buildable area cannot exceed 3000 sft for an FSI of 1 ( you can build a single storey of 3000sft or 15storey of 200sft each). If one wishes to build more he needs to purchase TDR, which is not easily available and whose cost is at par of land prices.
2 FSI is for slum redevelopment (EWS) or IT sector only

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One cannot build more than FSI allowed by municipal corporation. We need to leave area for open space, set backs, front margins etc. For e.g. for a plot of 3000 sft the total buildable area cannot exceed 3000 sft for an FSI of 1 ( you can build a single storey of 3000sft or 15storey of 200sft each). If one wishes to build more he needs to purchase TDR, which is not easily available and whose cost is at par of land prices.
2 FSI is for slum redevelopment (EWS) or IT sector only
Jitu Sir can you comment on this article ? ....
is it not the same for pune brokers .... daily brokers are putting ads non stop for 12 months ..... for the same property ?
are TOI ads free to brokers....
sometimes even multiple broker put the ad for availablility of 3 -4 flats on the same floor ... ?
are all the owners of same floor dealing thru same broker ....


http://www.indianexpress.com/news/so...dback/596210/0

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Jitu Sir can you comment on this article ? ....
is it not the same for pune brokers .... daily brokers are putting ads non stop for 12 months ..... for the same property ?
Dear frugality,
Its really a nice piece of information. Dont know much whether it is same here in Pune, as we have a policy of direct sales.
In our case we do retain few units to facilitate material storage of finishing items and daily work of various agencies.

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Jitu,

If you don't mind, could you please reveal exact number of these retained units?

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Jitu,

If you don't mind, could you please reveal exact number of these retained units?
Dear mahesh,
I am unable to provide you exact number as it is confidential. Normally few units from 1st & 7th are retained to facilitate development of building.

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We all know the Service Tax (ST) is levied on the agreement value for the flats purchased on Agreement for Sale. As per my understanding the "agreement value" is composed of 1> Cost of construction (inclusive of dwelling and amenities) and 2> Cost of undivided share of land.

If that is so, does it make sense to charge services rendered to create/provide part 1> only? Do you think cost of land should NOT attract ST? If you agree then is builder community/CREDAI/PBAP doing anything to attract govts attention on this issue?

Thanks if you could answer,
Sameer
Dear sameer,
You had said it right. Agreement value is summation of Construction Cost, & Land Cost. Land is not a service so Service Tax can only be levied on Constrcution cost. Here is the real issue as to how to evaluate land cost as in some cases the land cost is too less than costruction cost while in some areas the land cost is major one.
Govt proposes that they would consider 1/3 cost of agg value for construction i.e. they would charge 10% ST on 33% of agreement value OR in short they would charge 3.33% of agreementl value.
CREDAI (India) has already decided to take this issue to finance minister to rethink on this additional levies and its interpretation.
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friends .. what this discussion is all about .. r u guys trying to reduce rates at Samrajya ? or just clearing ur doubts from jitu ... really :p ?


looks this discsssion is going nowhere !!
in fact, it is getting more interesting now... because now people are asking all sorts of questions and posting their experiences about other cities / locations / financial etc.

I agree that no forum can force a builder to reduce his rates (read: greed or profit margin etc etc), but at least we are seeing what every builder is doing in Pune?

Jitu sounded logical initially as people were not asking many questions but now that so many views are coming, he is now simply reduced to saying that 'My project is VFM and I am getting buyers at this price'.

I have personally informed many people about this discussion thread and i bet other guys are doing that as well. So at least some people will know builder's words and how much to trust them..
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