Jitu_Sir

Dear sunita,
What doest it mean ? Sorry but I didnt get you.

Jitu_Sir

Dear abeer,
I had never said this in any of my previous posts. Moreover we were the first to reduce the rates in Kothrud substantially when recession hit badly.

Madhurg

Jitu sir ..
Sunita only means that .. she is in 100% agreement to bloger !!

realacres

aaj, I think you are now repeating with what you RE bulls used to say in R2iclubforums. And yes, resales go much cheaper than builders' rate & the possession too is guaranteed, unlike the builder. What you see is what you get. Note the difference.

And why do you always part with builders logic? Rather than going against what buyers say, it would be better to prove their statements wrong. I have myself said that I won't buy at Samrajya even when I can afford it. What we discuss here is not whether it is affordable or not but whether it is worth the price.

Coming to the point :- Who can decide the worth? It is the market forces, that's all. Had the builders had their way, they would have charged even INR 1Cr/sq mm. The buyers are the kings. Note that buyers have multiple options, not only about location, builders, price etc. but also to buy or not to buy while the builder only have single option:- To sell.

Hence, in any market, it the buyers who call the shots, some RE prices may die in 1 bullet, some may require 3. That's the only difference.

punerebuyer

I have no intentions on calling these people... i had started with a simple question of how builders want buyers to trust them but they are not ready to trust someone who has paid 90% of the amount already... once someone buys in L6, he has paid 100% of what was asked but he is not going to get any amenities for more than 1.5 years minimum, and if that gets delayed, he has no control on it.. and all the time, he has his money in your hands for the maintenance which includes these uncompleted amenities.

its simple Jitu.. you deliver in phases and ask payment in phases but the delivery takes a long time even after 100% payment... and no matter what words you use, the facts do not change...

punerebuyer

I have no intentions on calling these people... i had started with a simple question of how builders want buyers to trust them but they are not ready to trust someone who has paid 90% of the amount already... once someone buys in L6, he has paid 100% of what was asked but he is not going to get any amenities for more than 1.5 years minimum, and if that gets delayed, he has no control on it.. and all the time, he has his money in your hands for the maintenance which includes these uncompleted amenities.

its simple Jitu.. you deliver in phases and ask payment in phases but the delivery takes a long time even after 100% payment... and no matter what words you use, the facts do not change...

Jitu_Sir

Dear punerebuyer,
This is not done. Anyways I had got the answer for my question.

You ask a simple question and expect a fair answer--- I try to provide you a genuine answer--- You are not convinced with my clarification and stick to your theory--- I find a alternate way so that you can have a direct dialogue with our buyers--- Over which you say you are not interested to talk with them.
If the approach is so casual then in no way you are going to contribute in creating social awareness amongst buyers. If you are so concerned about safeguarding our buyer's interest then you should take an initiative to talk with them and put their feedback here so that even others should know that facts. If not then this appears to be an argument only for the sake of argument.

ams444

Jitu_Sir not as a samrajya promotor but as a builder I would like to ask you some questions. Hope you answer them and educate us.
1. What is definition of carpet area. I have seen some builders tell the buyers that even wall width is taken into account in calculating 'Carpet' area which I find ridiculous.
2. I know you do not sell parking (Thanks to your per/square feet rates). What is your personal opinion about those who sell parking and even ready to add it to agreement. What kind of legal action possible on these crooks?
3. If I am a buyer, I would definitely like to know the calculation that has been used to charge the 25% loading used to arrive at built-up/salable area. Is it a practice in pune to explain this complex calculation to buyers? Is it included in the agreement? Being common owner for the open areas around the complex I think buyer should be educated about this.

Jitu_Sir

Dear ams444,
Its pleasure to share information.

Carpet area is the usable area that the buyers gets inside the flats. Its the summation of room sizes, passages, toilets taken as unfinished to unfinished. Wall width is calculated under builtup.

Parking space comes under common area. Hence builder can only make allotment of parking. Buyer doesn't get ownership rights for parking as no sale deed is done for it. Regrets but cant comment on other's practices.

25% loading comprises of wall thickness, lobbies, staircase and any such area which is shared in common between the flats. We mention all 3 areas viz., carpet, terrace & saleable in our agreement.

punerebuyer

Jitu.. dont take it personal.. but here is my response

1. You have given some possessions in L6 and you are expecting me to talk to them. This situation itself says that people are placing trust on you by paying 100% of what you are charging.
2. In return, what you are offering them is commitment to your schedule but at the same time, you admit that it may has chances to slip. So your commitment has some risks of delays.
3. Now how is the buyer has any control over these risks or your commitments? Absolutely zero because he has already paid everything to you.
4. You are telling me that people are happy with what you are offering them and you want me to confirm the same. Now my question is, did you give them a choice that since 'everything' is not complete for which they are paying for, it is ok to pay 5% amount later? I am sure everyone would praise you if you do that. Thats the mutual trust I am talking about.
5. You are trying to convince me that your buyers are happy. What I would say that they are not aware of what they are doing and this IS my way of creating a social awareness in buyers, not to make the same mistake with Samrajya or any other scheme they want to buy.
6. I think anyone reading my posts would agree that I am making the buyer aware that they are getting delivery of the product in phases but they are paying for everything much in advance including maintenance of things which are not complete.
7. Anyone reading your answers to my posts can clearly see that not a single time, you are admitting that you are delivering the product late but charging everything upfront. Instead you are trying to spread a message that your buyers are happy with this arrangement and anyone not happy will not have a choice.

I am sorry to say that actually I am creating buyer awareness while you are selling a product on your terms and conditions.

lastly, why would you assume that I need to call only to the numbers you provide to get information?
jaani... hamare jasoos chaaro taraf faile huve hai... :-)

just kidding... take it easy...