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Old 02-09-10   #31
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I don’t agree on that, I started celebrating the Ganapti festival from Noida. My landlord was from Maharashtra and celebrating it 11 days. You can’t say this. Even if you go in Delhi there is huge celebration of “Durga Pooja”. No one object you to celebrate the festivals.
This example shows that it was celebrated on individual level. This is normally done not only in Noida but any part of the world. You can do this even you settle in Czec Republic.
This doesn't justify that some people do some celebrations to make a political statement. And the problem starts when such kind of thing occur. I dont think Ganesh Chaturthi is celebrated anywhere outside Maharashtra to make political statement. That's the difference. And thats why Maharashtra is the best state in this regard.
 
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Control your temptation realacre you will gain nothing ,this is not a forum to be offensive against any community .
Man, sorry if I have hurt you, but this is what I understand. Seen cases where Bihari boys come to Mumbai despite the fact that they were getting good job in post office in their home state at same income, but for Biharis, it is matter of pride saying that their son is in Mumbai:- Hamar ladka bambai main hai. Note that not all are the same, but if this so called status symbol according Bihar is concerned is taken out, you will find atleast 25-30% dip in migration to Mumbai.

Btw, why the craps like Laloos target Mumbai by saying we will perform chat-pooja in Mumbai?? Doesn't he have any other work than produce children?? Why I hate these things is for the simple fact that Maharashtra & Gujarat contribute over 65% of total central taxes, but the central govt puts this money in Bemaru states. So, here we are paying taxes, working hard & who enjoys this money?? Bihar (where Laloos are many), Jharkhand (where CMs are like Koda who do scam & runs around later with a diaper & a**h**** like Shibu Soren aka Guruji who go underground every now & then) & UP (where Behenji is busy constructing statues rather than focussing on health, education & infra. Man, spending over INR 2700 Cr on statues , what the f***). Man, over 70% MLAs here are hardcore criminals, infact NCP chaps looks saint when compared to them, atleast they don't fire in the air with AK-56s.

Infact, I agree to health ministers' statement that population is growing coz there aren't enough TV sets to keep people entertained.
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Realacres and Guddu whether UP/Bihar or Maharashtra, people should be ashamed of electing/selecting leaders ppl like Lallu/Mulayam/Behnji and Pawars/RR Patil

The fact is Delhi has better infra/metro where-as leading industrial cities of Mahrarashtra (Mumbai/Pune) are still struggling for infra for decades

If USA/Europe/Japan/Australia open VISAs, most of educated Indians irrespective of caste/creed will migrate to these countries/continents for better RE & good-quality life.

I think with dwindling population growth in west/japan, Indians' migration would increase.

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Nice discussion here, a breadk from direct RE (though this is related to RE coz if all outsiders vanish, all builders too would vanish---- from their investors).

Anyways, from my experience, if you respect each other's language, cultures etc. you won't find any problem. The issue arises when I see North Indians, especially from UP-Bihar trying to make other states also as UP-Bihar kicks off dhishum-dhishum sequel. Ever seen MNS or locals for that matter acting against Rajasthani kiranawala/baniya, Gujju or Punjabi businessman or south Indian colleague?? Why is it that only UP-Bihar is the problem?? It is for the simple reason that people outside feel that you don't improve your own state & hence come here to spoil others'. Same thing can't be said about Gujarat/Punjab/Karnataka, as they are better or at par with Maharashtra.

UP-Biharis if make their own state good, will be then welcomed with open arms as the attitude towards them changes. It is the Lalus, Mullus & haathi chap behenjee which should be kicked out first.

Btw, I have booked Ganpati today. Though we don't have this in our family, because of my liking of Ganesh, the family has one now right from the day we stay here.
I echo your thoughts Realacres. Although not all UP/Biharis are like this, but your description suits to many of them.
 
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I echo your thoughts Realacres. Although not all UP/Biharis are like this, but your description suits to many of them.
I think solution to this problem is development of states like UP and Bihar. If educated people from these states stay there and hold the bureaucrats in those state accountable and if possible bring good political leader in power the situation should change. I know this is not easy and it will be a gradual process. But this is one of the good solutions.
 
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Man, sorry if I have hurt you, but this is what I understand. Seen cases where Bihari boys come to Mumbai despite the fact that they were getting good job in post office in their home state at same income, but for Biharis, it is matter of pride saying that their son is in Mumbai:- Hamar ladka bambai main hai. Note that not all are the same, but if this so called status symbol according Bihar is concerned is taken out, you will find atleast 25-30% dip in migration to Mumbai.

Btw, why the craps like Laloos target Mumbai by saying we will perform chat-pooja in Mumbai?? Doesn't he have any other work than produce children?? Why I hate these things is for the simple fact that Maharashtra & Gujarat contribute over 65% of total central taxes, but the central govt puts this money in Bemaru states. So, here we are paying taxes, working hard & who enjoys this money?? Bihar (where Laloos are many), Jharkhand (where CMs are like Koda who do scam & runs around later with a diaper & a**h**** like Shibu Soren aka Guruji who go underground every now & then) & UP (where Behenji is busy constructing statues rather than focussing on health, education & infra. Man, spending over INR 2700 Cr on statues , what the f***). Man, over 70% MLAs here are hardcore criminals, infact NCP chaps looks saint when compared to them, atleast they don't fire in the air with AK-56s.

Infact, I agree to health ministers' statement that population is growing coz there aren't enough TV sets to keep people entertained.
Man I am not hurt just requested you not to discuss these things in this a forum ,as every one will want have last word and we will reach no where,
Also generalizing on the basis of politician is not proper you have bad and good leaders, scammers every where as good and bad people are every where .It does not behoove a mature respectable person to pass comment on the basis of gender region religion cast creed etc.
Public forums are not a place to discuss your biases ,inhibitions towards a community

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I think solution to this problem is development of states like UP and Bihar. If educated people from these states stay there and hold the bureaucrats in those state accountable and if possible bring good political leader in power the situation should change. I know this is not easy and it will be a gradual process. But this is one of the good solutions.
Of course, if all states are developed well, the need for migration will be very less and hence it will help resolve the problem. But stopping migration could not be possible. And migration is also helpfull to all as you get to now each other's cultures and learn good things.

Problem here is the attitude of migrants as well as locals. When a person migrates to new place, he must try to mix completely with the local culture. This doesn't mean he has to go away from his own culture or traditions. A very good example is of Parsi community. They migrated to India centuries back and got mixed into the local community very well. They also continued with their own traditions and beliefs.
Locals also should not see migrants as a threat to them. They should understand the confusion of a newcomer into their locality and help them settle down.
On contrary to this we can see some migrants not at all trying to miz in the local culture. They do not pay respect to local laws or local traditions.
Some of the locals too misbehave with the migrant people. Most of which is because of political motivation.
Its the need for change in attitude.
 
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Let's not do any community bashing. No community is inferior or superior. Both Sachin & Sehwag play for India, and belong to the whole country. It is the politicians (like SS/ MNS) who have partly been successful in creating divide among people.
  • Why do we forget that english ruled us for centuries with just one policy- DIVIDE AND RULE ? Otherewise, we would have been better than the west today.
  • Why Maharashtra developed faster than others- ONLY BECAUSE OF BOMBAY. It is historically documented, proved and agreed that British developed Bombay, and has the first mover advantage. So more than Marathi/ Gujarati/ Parsi, the first credit goes to British.
  • Anyway, if you see the recent Marathi flick -'Me Shivajirao Bhosle Boltoy', you would understand that Maharashtrians are not particularly enterprising more than any other class. We are all equal.
  • Recently, a member of Planning Commission of India was reported in Times of India(pune edition) that Maharashtra is not particularly wealthy compared to other states.
  • Let's recognize the contribution of migrant labour of bihar, UP, WB, Orrisa in building cities like Mumbai/ Delhi rather than taunting them.
Only one request, as educated netizens & Indians, let us all come together in condemning ALL communal parties (which are founded on DIVIDE & RULE) including SS/MNS.
 
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Man, sorry if I have hurt you, but this is what I understand. Seen cases where Bihari boys come to Mumbai despite the fact that they were getting good job in post office in their home state at same income, but for Biharis, it is matter of pride saying that their son is in Mumbai:- Hamar ladka bambai main hai. Note that not all are the same, but if this so called status symbol according Bihar is concerned is taken out, you will find atleast 25-30% dip in migration to Mumbai.

Btw, why the craps like Laloos target Mumbai by saying we will perform chat-pooja in Mumbai?? Doesn't he have any other work than produce children?? Why I hate these things is for the simple fact that Maharashtra & Gujarat contribute over 65% of total central taxes, but the central govt puts this money in Bemaru states. So, here we are paying taxes, working hard & who enjoys this money?? Bihar (where Laloos are many), Jharkhand (where CMs are like Koda who do scam & runs around later with a diaper & a**h**** like Shibu Soren aka Guruji who go underground every now & then) & UP (where Behenji is busy constructing statues rather than focussing on health, education & infra. Man, spending over INR 2700 Cr on statues , what the f***). Man, over 70% MLAs here are hardcore criminals, infact NCP chaps looks saint when compared to them, atleast they don't fire in the air with AK-56s.

Infact, I agree to health ministers' statement that population is growing coz there aren't enough TV sets to keep people entertained.
Do you think Pawar & RR Patil or say Balasaheb or your MNS Gunda "Raj" Thakre a little better than Lalu & Behenji?? In my view all are same...Nikamme & nalayak...

Even your dear Pawar has connection with Dawood & company & he & his chela Chhagan Bhujbal get money by extortion from mumbai & Pune's builders...

Plz dont have such a strong feeling towards any community due to their so call Neta (I dont call them leaders, leader is who lead, these ppls dont lead ONLY threaten to get Vote )...Maharashtra politicians are equally useless like behenji in UP...Mumbai & Pune & surrounding area is a bit developed due to mumbai, if you see other part of Maharashtra like vidhrava, max farmer suicide happened in that part of India, so why Maharashtra leader do something for those POOR farmers...it happening when we have our agriculture Minister from Maharashtra itself...

So, I request you please don't have such a strong feeling towards bhaiyyas or Bhiharis...and don't play divide & rule politics on this forum...

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Yea, Maharashtrians should be thankful to UP/Bihar/WB/Orrissa but they can not and should not expect thankful behavior from UP/Bihar guys; in return they should change their language to Hindi; they should give up their history,culture and their nativity and adopt what UP/Bihar folks want. If they don't want to follow UP/Bihar guys; they should be labelled as communals
 
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