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Old May 2 2012, 09:08 AM   #11
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manoj bhai, bottom line kya hai for all this? himachal main kya ho raha hai? will land get cheaper or expensive?
 
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manoj bhai, bottom line kya hai for all this? himachal main kya ho raha hai? will land get cheaper or expensive?
Depends on what kind of land u r looking at . If u want land ( for example, in a city like Shimla ), which is close to the Mall, has proper parking ( that means it is drive in ), has decent amount of sun & has a good view, decent water supply etc.., a plot of say 200 sq. yards may cost anything between 1.0 to 2 cr or more .

If u r prepared to forgo parking, walk in the hills for 10- 15 minutes & the land may not be close to the Mall, similar sized piece of land may cost u less than 20-30 L . Mind u, this land may have much better view & sun .


............but the problem is that all the moneyed People from the plains run after the first option .


Land of the first option is very scarce & that is why, it is pretty expensive .

Land of the second option is available in plenty & is pretty cheap .
 
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Depends on what kind of land u r looking at . If u want land ( for example, in a city like Shimla ), which is close to the Mall, has proper parking ( that means it is drive in ), has decent amount of sun & has a good view, decent water supply etc.., a plot of say 200 sq. yards may cost anything between 1.0 to 2 cr or more .

If u r prepared to forgo parking, walk in the hills for 10- 15 minutes & the land may not be close to the Mall, similar sized piece of land may cost u less than 20-30 L . Mind u, this land may have much better view & sun .


............but the problem is that all the moneyed People from the plains run after the first option .


Land of the first option is very scarce & that is why, it is pretty expensive .

Land of the second option is available in plenty & is pretty cheap .
Manoja bhai.....I want to invest in a 2 bedroom appartment not costing more than 20-30 lakhs. I would prefer it some where between Kasauli and Shimla.......the view is important and not the city. Which place or builder would you recommend. Again i am an NRI from Punjab so i should be leagally allowed for this purchase to happen.
 
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what about the other hill stations like palampur and dharamshala? is there any land available there? i believe it should be much cheaper in these places. isn't it? i would be interested if i find some good deal. I am just looking for the land, may be 20 marla/30 marlas etc. my budget is 20 to 3 lacs

i know i won't be able to afford NCR prices.
 
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Shimla, May 2

Reiterating its allegation of a planned conspiracy to grab the Annandale ground in the garb of creating a cricket stadium, the CPM said today that the land mafia had already bought 28 bighas of land in and around the ground.

Addressing a press conference here today, state secretary, CPM, Rakesh Singha said Annandale was a sensitive issue which should have been dealt with much more care and concern.

“The stand taken by Rajya Sabha MP Shanta Kumar, who is also the BJP national president, on the Annandale issue is very legitimate and valid as in a democracy the Army as well as civilians have their own significance which must not be underestimated,” he remarked.

Singha said it was really shocking that the land mafia had purchased 5 bighas, which was very much part of the ground and under Army possession.

“The manner in which almost 28 bighas have been bought in and around Annandale clearly points towards an evil design that is being pursued so that the ground can be taken back from the Army in the name of creating a cricket stadium,” he alleged.

Singha said the state must adopt a balanced and pragmatic approach to the issue as the issue involved the question of national security.

The CPM leader also hinted at the formation of an alternative third front to keep the two main political players, the BJP and the Congress, out of power. “Under no circumstances will the CPM have any kind of understanding with the BJP or the Congress, as these two are responsible for lack of facilities in the capital city,” he said.

Singha said candidates put up by the CPM for the posts of Mayor and Deputy Mayor were completely into social service, unlike BJP and Congress candidates for MC polls, who devote more time to business than serving the public.

“The CPM has so far finalised 16 candidates and in the remaining nine wards too we will support like-minded candidates who believe in our ideology,” he said.

Singha further said the CPM would release its election manifesto here on May 13. The Shimla Municipal Corporation was an MC only in name as the real power was in the hands of the Commissioner and not the Mayor or councillors.

“If voted to power the CPM will ensure that the Mayor and elected councillors have all the powers and not the bureaucrats as is the case now,” he added.
 
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If u look at areas adjoining small towns, u should be able to get something very much in your budget .



.............if u r an Non-Himachali, do look at -


Guidelines for a non-agriculturist of Himachal Pradesh who desires to purchase/acquire land in Himachal Pradesh under section



Himachal Pradesh land purchase for non-Himachali | Non-Himachali Buying land in Himachal Pradesh



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what about the other hill stations like palampur and dharamshala? is there any land available there? i believe it should be much cheaper in these places. isn't it? i would be interested if i find some good deal. I am just looking for the land, may be 20 marla/30 marlas etc. my budget is 20 to 3 lacs

i know i won't be able to afford NCR prices.
 
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Gill Bhai, r u looking something on the road-head ( drive in ) or u don't mind walking for a Kilometer or 2 to reach the house, u r looking to buy ? If u can walk in the hills ( as u would know, it is not level walk ), u would get things cheaper & places with fabulous views .


There should be many options available . Just forget the towns on the way . Look at the outskirts of the towns on the highway, starting from Dharampur, right till Shogi or TaraDevi .


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Manoja bhai.....I want to invest in a 2 bedroom appartment not costing more than 20-30 lakhs. I would prefer it some where between Kasauli and Shimla.......the view is important and not the city. Which place or builder would you recommend. Again i am an NRI from Punjab so i should be leagally allowed for this purchase to happen.
 
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High Court orders dismantling of captive thermal plant


Shimla: Getting tough on blatant violations of environment laws, a green bench of HP High Court on Friday not only imposed Rs 100 crore damages on Jaiprakash Associates Ltd. (JAL) for having set up a whole cement plant by adopting fraudulent means but also cancelled permissions for a 62 MW captive thermal plant and directed that it be dismantled within 3 months. To fix official responsibility for allowing the illegality, the court set up a special investigation team (SIT) for the purpose.
Japyee Cement plant in Baga Baglah
Japyee Cement plant in Bagheri Himahcal Pradesh


Disposing of a PIL (No 15 of 2009) and a petition (No 586 of 2010) challenging the setting up of a cement plant at Bagheri village in Solan district, the green bench headed by Justice Deepak Gupta with Justice Sanjay Karol held that that “the entire project of Jaiprakash Associates Ltd is based on a tissue of lies.”

Writing the order for the bench Justice Deepak Gupta observes “this company has behaved like a law unto itself. At every stage JAL has either given wrong information or has tried to mislead the authorities.”

Firstly to obtain environment clearance, the company fraudulently claimed costs of the plant to be less than Rs 100 crore where as actually having invested between Rs 400 to Rs 500 crore setting up the cement plant.
Laws on September 16, 2004, when the cement plant was cleared by the states single window clearance authority, for a project with less than Rs 100 cr investment did not require to obtain any clearances from ministry of environment of forest and environment (MoEF).

The court struck down the company’s contention that project costs escalated to over Rs 400 crore because of delays and increase in prices of plant machinery. The judges pointed out that the plant construction began on November 2, 2004 with the promoters not holding any public hearing or obtaining any environment clearance. No delays occurred as the plant was completed within the scheduled 5 year period.

The court even expressed shock at transfer of 325 bighas of villagers’ common lands worth crores of rupees without any authority whatsoever.

“Can the state act like a land mafia, take over possession of the village common land and hand it over to a private company without even following the semblance of the rule of law,” the judges questioned?

The court held that the possession of land was illegally handed over to JAL and clearance from MoEF for diverting forest land for the cement plant was only taken after it had been set up.

Holding JAL guilty of deceit the court adopted the ‘polluter pays’ principal to impose Rs 100 damages on the company that is to be paid in four equal installments with the first one due by August 31, 2012 and the last one by March 31, 2015.

Before ordering dismantling of the thermal plant set up purportedly for captive use of the cement plant, the court observed that it “was set up without any valid approval and construction was carried out even after the consent was withdrawn.”

The court recorded that an application for setting up a 25 MW captive multi fuel power plant at Bagheri was first moved before director industries on December 20, 2005.

Though environment clearances were not obtained or project costs shown, the proposal was cleared on September 27, 2006 and JAL started construction immediately.

On realizing that environment clearance under an Environment Impact Assessment (EIA) 2006 notification was mandatory, HP Pollution Control Board on February 15, 2007 asked JAL hold a public hearing and obtain environment clearance for the thermal plant under construction. The projected investment for the plant was Rs 90.45 crores.

A public hearing was conducted on July 2, 2007 and minutes of the meeting revealed that the entire public present opposed setting up of the thermal plant.
On July 16, 2007 the government took a decision to withdraw all no objection certificates for setting up thermal plants in the state.

Despite PCB withdrawing the consent to establish on July 17, 2007 and MoEF as for keeping the project in abeyance on September 7, 2007, the company did not stop construction.

“JAL behaved as if it is above the law,” the court observed.

However with a change of government in December 2007, on November 10, 2008 the policy was changed by the cabinet at the behest of an overactive bureaucracy to permit captive consumption thermal plants.

Interestingly on the same day JAL through its executive chairman sent a letter seeking permission to set up a 60 MW captive thermal plant at Bagheri.
“JAL seems to have its eyes and ears in every wing of the government because even before the ink had dried on the letters conveying the new policy, JAL had sent its own detailed proposal for setting up a thermal plant on the same day,” the judges observed.

Till date there is no permission from MoEF permitting use of forest land for setting up a thermal plant, the order records.

JAL applied to MoEF for obtaining environment clearance for a integrated 62 MW project on February 18, 2009 and a public hearing was held on September 7, 2009.

Striking down the environment clearance for the thermal plant, the judges concluded that the entire foundation of the environment clearance obtained by JAL was based on falsehood.

With the court observing that the company could not have succeeded in its illegal endeavour to establish the plant and get permissions without active connivance of officials, it ordered setting up of a three member special investigation team to be headed by KC Sadyal, additional director general of vigilance bureau.

The court has empowered SIT to investigate and identify the public servants who connived to with and helped JAL and those who were negligent in discharge of their duties.

The investigation has also been asked to indentify whether any official directly or indirectly received undue benefits from JAL or any of its associate companies whether in the form of grant of business outlets, reemployment etc.
Directed to submit its report December 31, 2012, the court asked SIT to also recommend initiation of criminal or disciplinary action against erring officials
About official apathy, the order observed, “most shocking aspect of the matter is that neither the department of industries nor the pollution control board thought it fit to verify whether the cost of the project of Rs 90 Cr submitted by JAL was in fact correct or not.

On the one hand JAL was stating that it was investing Rs.450 crores on this project and on the other hand it was claiming that the cement plant would cost only Rs.90 crores. The industry department in its reply has, like the proverbial ostrich, hidden its head in the sand and has not replied to the allegations regarding costings. If this is the state of affairs, the state of Himachal Pradesh is headed for environmental ruination.”

Petitioners Him Privesh Enviorment Protection Society and panchayat representatives of the area had alleged that the cement plant had been set up in total violation of environment laws, no proper public hearing was conducted and 325 bighas of village common lands had been wrongly transferred by the state in favour of the company.





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