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Old March 10 2010, 07:47 PM   #1
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Default ATS One Hamlet Layouts not good for 1620 sq ft

Hi All,

My friend forwarded me the layouts and price for ATS One Hamlet. I just thought to get experts review. From the first look, I found 1620 size has been sidelined like
1. No Park Facing for 1620
2. Totally Bad from Vastu stand point -its SW facing
3. All Balconies will face Village/Asharam
4. Sunlight issue except early mornings

Great if folks can advice for the better options in 1620. As of today it looks like we should drop the idea to buy 1620 because there is no point to buy a sidelined location in any society. I guess these apartments will get least appreciation. I have never lived in Apts so may be ppl living there can advice here.

FYI..
TypeC is 1620
TypeB is 2000
TypeA is 2900

Sorry for the distorted screen.

Thnx,
Sidhartha

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Hi Sidhjs,

This is for the first time I have seen the layout, thanks.
Actually as always ATS is generating quite some heat. Totally confused what to do. Listening tall stories about the brand one feels to take the plunge... but now we hear some negative voices too.
I have seen the land which looks odd... but I still believe that ATS can't allow their goodwill to go waste.
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It is unfortunate for folks who plan to buy the 1620 sqft flat, but as per my knowledge of ATS projects, all their previous projects (such as ATS Greens 93 and ATS Greater Noida) had the same disadvantage for smaller sized flats (non park facing).

Also, from my sources, most of the buyers of such types are investors.
 
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It is unfortunate for folks who plan to buy the 1620 sqft flat, but as per my knowledge of ATS projects, all their previous projects (such as ATS Greens 93 and ATS Greater Noida) had the same disadvantage for smaller sized flats (non park facing).

Also, from my sources, most of the buyers of such types are investors.
Can anyone suggest which seem like the best possible towers for 1620 sq ft towers in the current layout?
 
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Can anyone suggest which seem like the best possible towers for 1620 sq ft towers in the current layout?
A couple of pointers before I provide my opinion:-
a) The tower numbers are from right to left. So 1-6 are 2900 sqft, and 7-12,14 and 15 are 2000/1620 sqft towers.
b) The plot doesn't go from east to west but south-east (tower 1 is most south-east) to north-west. So, most of the park facing houses 2000 and 2900 sqft are facing south west.

If you see the layout, in towers 7-10 1620 sqft will face north-east and will get sun in the mornings. In fact, tower 7 east side 1620 sqft flat seems to be the best as it will get sun till noon.

For evening side sun, you may get it at 15 tower (last tower) west side 1620 sqft flat.
 
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A couple of pointers before I provide my opinion:-
a) The tower numbers are from right to left. So 1-6 are 2900 sqft, and 7-12,14 and 15 are 2000/1620 sqft towers.
b) The plot doesn't go from east to west but south-east (tower 1 is most south-east) to north-west. So, most of the park facing houses 2000 and 2900 sqft are facing south west.

If you see the layout, in towers 7-10 1620 sqft will face north-east and will get sun in the mornings. In fact, tower 7 east side 1620 sqft flat seems to be the best as it will get sun till noon.

For evening side sun, you may get it at 15 tower (last tower) west side 1620 sqft flat.

Thanks for an elaborate response.

I am just trying to build my understanding that apart from the disadvantage of 1620 sq ft flats facing the Ashram, how good is the orientation? Will these flats be pretty warm in summer and will get very less sun in the winters?

Please suggest.

Thanks
 
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Thanks for an elaborate response.
You are welcome

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I am just trying to build my understanding that apart from the disadvantage of 1620 sq ft flats facing the Ashram, how good is the orientation?
I don't understand why Ashram facing is a disadvantage.
Regarding orientation, as I said earlier in my post, the preference of towers should be
a) 7(east)
b)15(west)*
c) 7(west), 8-10
d) 11,12,14
e) 15(east)
with explanations already given. (*I am not very sure of 15 west being good as it will throw only the evening sun in the kitchen side and not the balcony side)

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Will these flats be pretty warm in summer and will get very less sun in the winters?
The problem with the flats, especially the non-preferred ones (11,12,14) is that they will get sun only for an hour or so (at an angle!), in summers as well as winters (maybe no sun in winters). So, they would be cool in summers and cold in winters.
 
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I guess both 7 and 15 will be better than other towers for 1620.

Pros &Cons for 7: Ample sunlight, near the club. But eventually asharam ppl will construct something there, today or tomorrow. Moreover that could be a disputed land because of court case between ATS and Asharam.

Pros &Cons of 15: Less sunlight. Near 2nd entry gate so always under eyes.

Why I said 1620 loc is a disadvantage bcz
1. Court case of Asharam Land. In case any damage to ATS property
then 1620 will be hit first along with 2900.
2. No Park View.
3. Village/Asharam View who knows what ppl do in the open land, and I
heard that this Asharam is less spiritual more a educational institute
4. You can't watch your kids in the park
5. Less sunlight
6. From Vaastu standpoint your main door should face N-E and never
S-W, that means when you coming out from your house you should face N-E. All 1620 houses will face S-W though balconies will open in N-E, but appt will face S-W.

Need advice onfollowing 2 items
1. Does anyone know what is the current availability of 1620 as of Today?
2. FYI: All Balconies in a apartment are open on the same side. For example in 1620 all three balconies are opening in Asharam side, Q: doesn't it effect cross ventilation of air? asking bcz I never lived in Appts.

Great if experts can guide.

Thanks,
Sidhartha
 
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I guess both 7 and 15 will be better than other towers for 1620.

Pros &Cons for 7: Ample sunlight, near the club. But eventually asharam ppl will construct something there, today or tomorrow. Moreover that could be a disputed land because of court case between ATS and Asharam.

Pros &Cons of 15: Less sunlight. Near 2nd entry gate so always under eyes.

Why I said 1620 loc is a disadvantage bcz
1. Court case of Asharam Land. In case any damage to ATS property
then 1620 will be hit first along with 2900.
2. No Park View.
3. Village/Asharam View who knows what ppl do in the open land, and I
heard that this Asharam is less spiritual more a educational institute
4. You can't watch your kids in the park
5. Less sunlight
6. From Vaastu standpoint your main door should face N-E and never
S-W, that means when you coming out from your house you should face N-E. All 1620 houses will face S-W though balconies will open in N-E, but appt will face S-W.
Totally agree on the points, except that I have contrary opinion on the Court Case issue. A few points to clarify here (from various sources and unverified):-
a) ATS is building out side of Ashram boundary. So no dispute between ATS and Ashram. Note that LP (Lotus Panache) is also outside Ashram boundary.
b) Noida Authority (NA) and Ashram have a case going on. Basically, Ashram folks acquired this land directly from farmers and not thru NA (it did not exist then). Also, no building clearances were taken for construction. NA wants to reacquire the land.
c) Due to NA vs Ashram, court has stayed any new construction in Ashram.
d) Due to unavailability of this land, master plan shows this as green area.

Hence, you should not worry whether a structure will come up there or not. However, you may worry on what you might see there

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Need advice onfollowing 2 items
1. Does anyone know what is the current availability of 1620 as of Today?
2. FYI: All Balconies in a apartment are open on the same side. For example in 1620 all three balconies are opening in Asharam side, Q: doesn't it effect cross ventilation of air? asking bcz I never lived in Appts.
Great if experts can guide.
I am not an expert but, here is my take:-
a) No idea about exact availability (changes by the hour). The info is that 3-6 floors are not open for booking. Also, GF, 1st and penthouses are not open. Hence you may book 2nd floor, or 7th and above.
b) Cross ventilation is a problem in apartments as they are usually one/two side open. The way to solve this is to keep main door open sometimes (have jaali door installed) and have the utility area (kitchen side) open as well. Btw, on the higher floors there is ample cross ventilation as the wind bloooows at high speeds.
 
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Wait for Eldeco. I heard that Eldeco is going to start bookings for Sector 107 project in another 2-3 days. Location of sector 107 is very good, Eldeco is also good builder and as per market information, rates will be around 3000-3100/sq ft so cheaper than ATS.

In ATS as project layout is not good so it is not advisable to invest in this project. With builder reputation, it is also important that what is the location , project layout, rates and in this case of ATS 104, all these 3 things are not favourable.
 
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