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Old May 25 2010, 01:40 PM   #11
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How are the other areas like passages,internal lobbies,door jams etc part of the carpet area...
Dear pcpune,
Here the areas (like passages, lobby, door jams, offsets) taken into consideration are inside the flats and are counted in carpet area.

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Old May 25 2010, 01:46 PM   #12
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Thanks Jitu Sir, abeerbagul,

1 : why would loading be applicable for the terrace ? i.e. my understanding is loading can only be applicable if it is a covered Terrace ( Terrace ceiling height < 20 feet )
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Loading is applicable to terraces as well as the parapit wall area is taken under builtup.
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2: few more details :
TOTAL SALEABLE : 1111
Carpet : 760 ( with my calculation it comes to approx. 670 including approx 55 SQ fr including
internal passage)
Terrace : 257 ( with my calculation it come to only 242,
including Dry Terrace)
It is advisable to use the working drawing and CAD to evaluate the actual carpet area as there are chances to miss some offsets etc. As regards terrace the carpet area could be 242 while its builtup comes to 257 sq. fts. The above explanation is based on my understanding about the issue as I am unaware about the specific project we are discussing.
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The Parking charges are 2.25 lacs & MSEB is 1.25 lacs, am i going in an exorbitantly expensive deal in a hurry?
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Old May 25 2010, 01:53 PM   #13
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Dear pcpune,
Here the areas (like passages, lobby, door jams, offsets) taken into consideration are inside the flats and are counted in carpet area.
Oh, I thought, he was talking of areas outside the flat. Carpet area is only wall to wall and I dont think we have a lobby inside the flat?

I believe, all wall-wall area should be carpet area (including every corner), a independant valuer will check the actual carpet area, so instead of depending on the CAD drwaings,...take a tape yourself and measure all corners.....

OR take help from a professional valuer....
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Carpet area is only wall to wall and I dont think we have a lobby inside the flat?
Dear pcpune,
Carpet area is evaluated using room dimensions being taken as unfinished to unfinished. Now-a-days many layouts do have a small entrance lobby inside the main door.
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I believe, all wall-wall area should be carpet area (including every corner), a independant valuer will check the actual carpet area, so instead of depending on the CAD drwaings,...take a tape yourself and measure all corners.....

OR take help from a professional valuer....
I agree with you. A professional approved valuator could be a effective help.
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Old May 25 2010, 02:21 PM   #15
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It's the Montvert Belrose we talking about..

about the terrace.. if the terrace area calculation comes to around 242 & builtup would be 257 then why should the builder add 25% more as loading again on it to calculate saleable area?
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It's the Montvert Belrose we talking about..

about the terrace.. if the terrace area calculation comes to around 242 & builtup would be 257 then why should the builder add 25% more as loading again on it to calculate saleable area?
Is there a rule he cannot add 25%, he can even add 100%, and sell you double the area as salebale...it has been slowly increasing from 10% to now 50% in some cases....in Pune it is 25-40%...

I PITY DESPERATE PUNE BUYERS !!!!!

So...you have no right to question if you are a desperate buyer....or have picked up he money from mango trees...
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thanks, but i am still evaluating & have asked the builder for working copy of the plan....
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As far as i know , at present almost all the builders in pune are charging 30 % loading on carpet as saleable area.
Saleable area = Carpet + 30% loading


One query to Jitu Sir ,

I heard now as per new PBAP norm , are all associated builders are charging full terrace area as saleable area ?

In this case calculations come as :

Saleable area = Carpet + 30% loading + terrace ( 100%)
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One query to Jitu Sir ,

I heard now as per new PBAP norm , are all associated builders are charging full terrace area as saleable area ?

In this case calculations come as :

Saleable area = Carpet + 30% loading + terrace ( 100%)
Dear amol09,
Its unfair on my part to comment on procedures & practices followed by other builders as its upto their discretion to decide their norms.
In our case we charge 25% loading and 50% on terrace.
Saleable Area = Carpet x 1.25 + Terrace x 0.5.
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Old May 26 2010, 10:35 PM   #20
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For me carpet area is what it means - where you can put a carpet if you want to do so. Please exclude terrace, balcony, external lobby, etc.

This may be unscientific, but it is as close to real life as it gets.

Terraces are not included in FSI, so do not include land cost. Everyone knows what is construction cost as compared to land cost.

So carpet area is related to land cost thru FSI, and that is all what counts.

Take a tape, measure yourself. Then divide total cost excluding stamp duty / registration by this carpet area. This is the rate you are paying.
In this total cost, add clubhouse, MSEB, car parking, builder's mercedes cost, anything out of your pocket.
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