Hi Friends,

I had been to the FAIRPRO '09 Fair.My Impression after seeing, is that prices are stagnating for all ongoing projects and builders are trying hard to hold them up.

Prices are 10-20% lower for new projects in the pipeline and for ready to occupy flats.

The discount offered at the stall was very less and were in the range 150-500 Rs/sqft max.

For the benefit of fellow members I am posting the project/price details of some of the properties.



Akshaya Foundations

Adora - OMR - 3750/sqft
Aikya - Adyar - 12500/sqft

Alliance Group - Orchid Springs - 3199/sqft

Arihant Foundations

Heirloom - Thalumbur - 2499/sqft
Escapade - Thoraipakkam - 4150/sqft
Villa Viviana - Maramalai nagar - starting from 1 Crore

Asvini Foundations

Amarisa-phase1 - Ramapuram - 4500/sqft
Amarisa-phase2 - Ramapuram - 4250/sqft
Akshita - Madipakkam - 3800/sqft

Casa Grande

Riveira - Palikkarnai - 3450/sqft - before discount 3600/sqft
Silver Oak - Perungudi - 4300/sqft - before discount 4500/sqft
Madhuban - Madipakkam - 3300 /sqft - before discount 3500/sqft
Mylapore - R.K.salai - 12500/sqft
Plots
Ponmar -785/sqft - before discount 825/sqft
Maraimalainagar - 790/sqft - before discount 825/sqft

CeeDeeyes - Chenni Pattinam

Basic Rate - 1600/sqft All Inclusive - 2075/sqft

Chaitanya shanthiniketan

Sunnyvale - Ayanavaram - 4850/sqft
Serena - Rajkilpakkam - 2550/sqft
Gardenia - OMR - 1900/sqft
Green Park - Chitlapakkam - 3300/sqft

DLF

Gardencity - 3200/sqft - was told slash in prices expected in coming weeks.

Doshi Housing

Etopia I and II - Perungudi - 3895/sqft
Nakshatra - Tambaram - 2995/sqft - Completion May 2010
Tranquil - Velachery - 5500/sqft - Completion February 2010
Trinity park - Santhoshpuram,Vengaivasal - 3195/sqft - Completion April 2009
Serene Couny-Villas - Santhoshpuram,Vengaivasal - 2200,2600/sqft
LlanStephan - Chetpet - 9000/sqft - Completion May 2009
Sri Mahalakshmi - Ayanavaram - 4495/sqft - Ready to Occupy

ETA

Rosedale - OMR - 3100/sqft
Le Chalet - Villas - Sriperambudhur - 26 Lakhs - 37 Lakhs

Hiranandani Upscale - 4200/sqft

Hiranandani Palace Gardens - 3475/sqft

Indus Housing

anantya - Navalur,OMR - 2299/sqft + 400(other charges)
riviera villa - Navalur,OMR - 90 Lakhs onwards
habittera - urapakkam,GST - 2399/sqft + 400(other charges)
amber - Saidapet - 4750/sqft

Jain Housing

Ankush Prakas - Kilpauk - 7500/sqft - Ready to occupy
Amrit Kailash - Strahns Road - 4500/sqft - Ready to occupy
La Gardenia - Nungabakkam - 7500/sqft - Ready to occupy
Ansruta - Valluvarkottam, nungabakkam - 10000/sqft - Ready to occupy
Antariska - Kodambakkam - 4500/sqft - Ready to occupy
Eiffel Garden - Vadapalani - 4250/sqft - Ready to occupy
Saagarika - M.R.C Nagar, sea facing - 10000/12500 - Ready to occupy
Green acres - Pallavaram - 3900/sqft - Ready to occupy
Abhishek - Selaiyur - 3500/sqft - Ready to occupy.

Jamals

Orchid - Palikkarnai - 3500/sqft
Palazzo - keelkattalai - 3700/sqft
Grandeur - Velappanchavadi(near saveetha dental college) - 3200/sqft

KGEYES

3 Projects on L.B.Road, Thiruvanmiyur - 6650/sqft
Delmare - Beach road,Thiruvanmiyur - 7000/sqft
Carolina - Velachery,Taramani - 4500/sqft
Swathi - Sastri Nagar,Adyar - 8500/sqft
Kalakshetra - 8000/sqft

Landmark Constructions

Tiara - Perungudi - 4000/sqft - Completion on August 2009
Aston Ville - Vadapalani - 5500 sqft - Completion on July 2009
Tudors Place - K.K.Nagar - 6500/sqft
The Address - Adyar - 11500/sqft
The Grange - Palavakkam - 7500/sqft
Cenralia - Chrompet - 2950/sqft - prelaunch
Gem Towers - AnnaNagar - To be launched.
Mahalakshmi Heights - Ashok Nagar - To be launched

L&T Estancia
Construction in Progress
1st-3rd Floor - 3950/sqft
4th -12 floor - floor rise charge of 20/sqft for each floor
13th - 17th - 4450/qft

L&T Eden Park - 3600/sqft

Mantri Synergy - OMR
2800/sqft - with 20/floor rise
Special offer - First Floor - all inclusive
1140 sqft - 33,67,000
870 sqft - 28,50,000

Navin Housing

Dayton Heights - Nelson Manickam road - 6500/sqft + 30/sqft floor rise from 2nd floor
Subha Mangala - Ramapuram - 4200/sqft
Brookfield - Nanmangalam - 3500/sqft
Merrylands - Medavakkam - 3500/sqft

Olympia Opaline - 3441/sqft - spl budget flats available

PACE Builders

Anna nagar west - 4195/sqft - before discount 4495/sqft
Selaiyur - 3195/sqft - before discount 3495/sqft
Valasarvakkam - 2795/sqft - before discount 3295/sqft

PS Srijan

The Grand - Velachery - 5250 sqft - before discount 5500/sqft - Floor Rise applicable from 4th floor

Rajparis

Harmony - Medavakkam - 3100/sqft

Rajarathnam Constructions

RC Prince Gardenia - Perambur redhill road,Kolathur - 3600/sqft

Rajkham

Independant houses - Ayyapathangal - 2600/sqft

Real Value

Sai Skanda - Velachery - 4200/sqft
Sai Surya - Palikaranai - 3800/sqft
OMR opp SIPCOT - 13.20 Lakhs onwards

Shriram Properties

Trishakti - SIPCOT - 2750/sqft
Shankari - 1990/sqft

Sidharth foundations

Tulip - k.k.nagar west - 4800/sqft - completion march 2009
Natura - medavakkam - 3100 /sqft - completion july 2009
Visvaleela - Annanagar - 8500 /sqft - to be launched
Dakshin - Urapakkam - price TBD - to be launched
upcoming projects in porur, thoraipakkam, rajkeelpakkam, mogappair.

SIS

Safaa - Urappakam - 3150/sqft

SSPDL

Crescent - Kelambakkam - Vandalur Road - 2500/sqft
Upcoming 2 villa project one in OMR and one in Sriperambathur.

Sumanth & Co

Thiruvanmiyur - 6000/sqft
Besant Nagar - 11500/sqft

TVH

Lumbini square - Pursaiwalkam - 5500/sqft + 30/sqft floor rise from 5th floor
Ouranya Bay(Premium) - OMR,Padur - 3100,3200 + 25/sqft floor rise from 5th floor
Ouranya Bay(Budget) - 2bhk - 20 Lakhs
3bhk - 30 Lakhs
Ekanta - Coimbatore - 3100/sqft
Revata - Mogappair east - 4500/sqft
Kamya - K.K,Nagar - 7000/sqft
Metro Golden Nest - Sriperambathur - 1bhk - 15 Lakhs
2bhk - 22 Lakhs
3bhk - 28 Lakhs

VGN Group

Minerva - Mogappair,Nolumbur - 2975/sqft
3 in 1, 4 in 1 - 3800/sqft
Mahalakshmi Nagar,Thiruverkadu - 3500/sqft
Plots
Mugalivakkam - 52 Lakhs/grnd
Selaiyur - 50 Lakhs/grnd
SPKoil - 34 Lakhs/grnd
Katankulathur - 22-27 Lakhs/grnd

Yuga Homes

Shem Park - chemmenachery - 3300/sqft
Upcoming in Koyambedu, R.A.Puram(8000/sqft)



There are lots of properties and also lots of potential buyers.There is sure a sense of uncertainity among the builders and also the buyers on when to make the next move.It was evident that correction in RE prices have started to happen.

Requesting members to respond with their thoughts on the current trend.
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  • The pace at which real estate development is going on, infrastructure is not growing that much. In fact Infrastructure is not at all happening

    If govt would have planned areas like KK Nagar or Anna Nagar in suburbs, we would have been benefited a lot. Chennai seriously lacks planned areas.

    Even now govt can come up with planned areas atleast in areas like thiruporur-guduvanchery belt
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  • Visanj, how about demand in Velachery - Medavakkam areas.
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  • Originally Posted by chennaidesi
    Visanj, how about demand in Velachery - Medavakkam areas.


    It varies depend on the builder and location but overall on the negative side. There was a project Baba Homes by Indu Housing near vijaya nagar bus terminus on velachery taramani main road. Project looks really good but my parents didn't like it as they prefer near nanganallur, adambakkam area. Indu Housing is calling me every 2 days and trying to convince me. Once he started calling me again and again even I started thinking if there is anything wrong in the project as such a good project don't need follow up. Either market is not good in that area or something wrong in the project

    Similarly there are many projects in Medavakkam particularly small builders keeping on calling me again and again. But Malles Altius seems to be good in terms of demand (my personal opinion), similarly there is another project coming up near Altius from Sreenivas Housing, even he is not responding properly as he is yet to launch the project but 6500/sq.ft which looks very high but he is estimating the demand I guess

    One project I really feel I missed is Navin's Srishti Keelkattalai, only 2 flats are left but not our preferred floor plan. But project looks really good

    Projects inside city like Alwarpet, Mandaveli, Adyar are selling like hot cakes. Really wondering how come 3 to 4 crore project has more demand whereas 50lakh project has very less demand
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  • Yes Baba Homes by Indu Housing location is very good. But not sure about the project.
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  • IMHO there's some serious dis-connect between some posts and ground reality on price trends. The difference is quite stark esp. within Chennai city limits. I have listed some of the projects, quoted prices I received in last 30 days:

    1. Isha Homes had few projects in Alwarpet (launched in end of 2012)- the latest I heard all the flats were sold-off exc. one which is 3300+ sq ft. They launched at base price of 14000/sq ft and price now is 17,500/-

    2. Appasamy Mandarina- launched last year is quoting 15,500/ sq ft

    3. Crest Velachey- launched at base price of 9000/sq ft- I understand from this forum is quoting 14k/sq ft

    4. TVH Quadrant- launched 13,500/sq ft (2012) is quoting Rs 22,500/- (Nov, 2013)

    Even the re-sale rates are pretty high. When media and some posters screaming the impact of slow down- How can the builders quote such high price? Wouldn't interest cost eat up their margins- even if they hold it for long?
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  • Originally Posted by Clairvoyant
    IMHO there's some serious dis-connect between some posts and ground reality on price trends. The difference is quite stark esp. within Chennai city limits. I have listed some of the projects, quoted prices I received in last 30 days:

    1. Isha Homes had few projects in Alwarpet (launched in end of 2012)- the latest I heard all the flats were sold-off exc. one which is 3300+ sq ft. They launched at base price of 14000/sq ft and price now is 17,500/-

    2. Appasamy Mandarina- launched last year is quoting 15,500/ sq ft

    3. Crest Velachey- launched at base price of 9000/sq ft- I understand from this forum is quoting 14k/sq ft

    4. TVH Quadrant- launched 13,500/sq ft (2012) is quoting Rs 22,500/- (Nov, 2013)

    Even the re-sale rates are pretty high. When media and some posters screaming the impact of slow down- How can the builders quote such high price? Wouldn't interest cost eat up their margins- even if they hold it for long?


    Already discussed that projects inside city are still in high demand thereby raising prices whereas projects in suburban are not doing well when compared to 2010
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  • Originally Posted by Clairvoyant
    IMHO there's some serious dis-connect between some posts and ground reality on price trends.

    Even the re-sale rates are pretty high. When media and some posters screaming the impact of slow down- How can the builders quote such high price? Wouldn't interest cost eat up their margins- even if they hold it for long?


    When it comes to Indian real estate, NRIs take centre-stage when the rupee depreciates : Reuters

    Some observations related to NRI investments in India:

    • Most NRIs based out from countries like Malaysia have shown their preference towards southern cities
    • NRIs from Canada show interest in places like Delhi, Chandigarh and other northern parts
    • Out of the 2.5 million NRIs in the US, most of them invest in Bangalore, Chennai and Hyderabad
    • The NRIs belong to the middle and high income group seek to invest in properties ranging from Rs 50 lakh to Rs 1 crore and beyond.
    • While the largest markets for affordable housing in the price range of Rs 15-25 lakh are from the Gulf region
    • 2/3/4 BHK configurations are most popular amongst NRIs
    • Tying up with financial institutions and banks, fully licensed projects, original allotment documents on the day of booking are the main attractions for NRIs that developers offer

    Link
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  • Originally Posted by Clairvoyant
    IMHO there's some serious dis-connect between some posts and ground reality on price trends. The difference is quite stark esp. within Chennai city limits. I have listed some of the projects, quoted prices I received in last 30 days:

    1. Isha Homes had few projects in Alwarpet (launched in end of 2012)- the latest I heard all the flats were sold-off exc. one which is 3300+ sq ft. They launched at base price of 14000/sq ft and price now is 17,500/-

    2. Appasamy Mandarina- launched last year is quoting 15,500/ sq ft

    3. Crest Velachey- launched at base price of 9000/sq ft- I understand from this forum is quoting 14k/sq ft

    4. TVH Quadrant- launched 13,500/sq ft (2012) is quoting Rs 22,500/- (Nov, 2013)

    Even the re-sale rates are pretty high. When media and some posters screaming the impact of slow down- How can the builders quote such high price? Wouldn't interest cost eat up their margins- even if they hold it for long?



    Clairvoyant, can you please tell me the going price of land in Kamakoti Nagar Pallikaranai which is only about 4km from Velachery?
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  • Originally Posted by ferret
    Clairvoyant, can you please tell me the going price of land in Kamakoti Nagar Pallikaranai which is only about 4km from Velachery?


    Sorry Ferret. Currently I'm not in the market for land and no clue on Pallikaranai.
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  • http://.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-25/india-office-boom-turns-glut-with-vacancies-real-estate.html

    India’s slowing economy has left its big cities with a glut of office space, pushing up vacancy rates, freezing development and prompting some builders to convert commercial projects into housing.
    Vacancy rates in the financial center of Mumbai and capital New Delhi topped 20 percent in the third quarter, the highest in Asia after Chengdu, China, where 32 percent of offices are empty, according to broker Cushman & Wakefield Inc. Six Indian cities are among the 10 office markets with the worst vacancies in the region, according to Cushman.

    Demand for offices in India has been declining as Asia’s third-largest economy -- labeled a “dream market” by Warren Buffett two years ago -- faces the slowest expansion in 11 years, the fastest inflation rate among large emerging markets, and the risk of its debt ratings being cut to junk. New supply in the country’s seven major office markets, including Mumbai, Hyderabad and Bangalore, fell to the lowest in almost two years in the three months to Sept. 30, broker CBRE Group Inc. said.
    “India is faced with an intimidating macro-economic landscape,” said Anshuman Magazine, chairman of CBRE South Asia Pvt, in New Delhi. “Companies remained cautious, a trend which continued to inhibit office leasing activity across the country.”

    India’s economic growth probably held below 5 percent for a fourth straight quarter, the longest stretch in data going back to 2005, according to a Bloomberg News survey.

    Reduced Demand

    Until two years ago, India was a darling of global investors with the economy expanding more than 9 percent in the year ended March 2011. That spurred 55 million square feet (5.1 million square meters) of new office space across the country’s key cities in 2010, according to CBRE, which began compiling the data that year. That compares with 29 million square feet in 2011 and 30 million square feet in 2012. For the first nine months of this year, 23 million square feet were added.

    The building boom ended as economic growth fell by 50 percent and companies and investors showed little confidence in a government battling corruption scandals. ArcelorMittal and Posco scrapped plans for $12 billion of investments, while global funds pulled $12.3 billion from Indian bonds in the five months to October. Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Inc. exited an insurance distribution venture this year.
    “Developers have been delaying their projects to keep pace with the reduced demand,” Sanjay Dutt, executive managing director for South Asia at Cushman in Mumbai, said. “The economic conditions have forced fresh demand to be even more subdued than expected by most.”

    Cheaper Rents

    The increase in empty office space has made rents in New Delhi and its surrounding areas, known as the National Capital Region, and Mumbai less costly. Mumbai was ranked sixth and New Delhi 13th for the cheapest rents in business districts in Asia-Pacific cities, according to a report from Chicago-based Jones Lang LaSalle Inc. in August.

    Average prime office rents in Mumbai’s Bandra Kurla, a business area north of the city that is home to UBS AG and Citigroup Inc., were $581 per square meter a year, while rents in Delhi were $374 per square meter, the Jones Lang LaSalle data showed. Rents in Hong Kong were the highest at $1,486 followed by Beijing at $1,004. A square meter is almost 11 square feet.
    Average rents in Mumbai rose 0.5 percent in the second quarter from the previous one, while they were unchanged in New Delhi, according to Jones Lang LaSalle.

    ‘Price Correction’

    “Indian cities have not recovered from the rental and price correction of between 20 percent and 40 percent from the peak in the third quarter of 2008, while other business districts in Asia-Pacific have performed better,” said Ashutosh Limaye, Mumbai-based head of research at Jones Lang LaSalle India. “The oversupply created in Indian cities kept rents and prices in check.”
    Bangalore, the south-Indian city that has established itself as a technology hub, has the largest office market in India with about 100 million square feet, according to CBRE. The city, the National Capital Region and Mumbai account for about 65 percent of the office real estate market, according to the broker.
    Bangalore -- home to Texas Instruments Inc., the largest analog chipmaker, and Qualcomm Inc., the world’s largest maker of chips used in phones -- posted the steepest decline in office space added to the market, falling by about 90 percent in the September quarter from the previous three months, CBRE said. The National Capital Region had an 80 percent slide, while new office supply in Mumbai dropped by more than half, it said.

    Rising Vacancies

    Rising vacancies and declining rents are prompting developers to put off projects. DLF Ltd. (DLFU), India’s biggest publicly listed builder, is holding off building new office towers until it sees a recovery in demand, Ashok Tyagi, group chief financial officer of the Mumbai-based company, said on a conference call with analysts on Oct. 31.
    “The uptake of leasing is slow,” Tyagi said on the call. “We have enough capacity for the next 18 to 24 months, if not longer. We have land for further construction, but we need to see how demand shapes up.”
    DLF shares have declined 35 percent this year compared with the 39 percent drop by the CNX Realty Index, which tracks 10 real estate companies. DLF’s second-quarter net income dropped 28 percent to 1 billion rupees ($16 million) as higher construction and interest costs crimped profitability.

    Turning Residential

    To counter the decline in demand, some developers, such as Oberoi Realty Ltd. (OBER), India’s second-largest by market value, are considering converting plans to build offices into residential buildings.
    “Commercial assets are struggling,” said Chairman Vikas Oberoi.
    Many developers have converted their commercial projects into residential because they provide positive cash flows upfront, Oberoi said. The company will explore the option “where it’s structurally possible for us to do so,” he said.
    Oberoi shares have dropped 34 percent this year, after returning 37 percent in 2012.
    “The change from commercial to residential is happening across India,” said Magazine at CBRE. “As a lot of people overestimated the demand in commercial, in some places they will find it easier to convert to residential and get their cash flows going.”

    Economic Outlook

    DLF switched to plans for housing from office for a 17.5-acre (7-hectare) plot in central Mumbai before deciding to sell it to the Lodha Group last year, according to Cushman. The conglomerate Adani Group’s project in Mumbai and developer VRaheja Construction’s redevelopment of a slum in Mumbai’s north also are among those shifting from offices to residential, the broker said.
    India’s economy may expand 4.8 percent in the year through March 2014, the slowest pace since 2003, according to a survey by the Reserve Bank of India. Gross domestic product rose 4.6 percent in July through September from a year earlier, compared with 4.4 percent in the prior quarter, according to the median of 25 estimates in a Bloomberg News survey ahead of a report due on Nov. 29.
    The nation’s credit rating may be cut to junk next year unless national elections due by May lead to a government capable of reviving growth, Standard & Poor’s said in a Nov. 7 statement.

    Bangalore Offices

    Not all are refraining from adding supply. RMZ Corp., the largest office developer in south India, is building offices outside of the central business district in Bangalore, catering to the information technology industry and tenants looking for cheaper offices, said Raj Menda, managing director at RMZ.
    RMZ, which received $300 million of investment from Qatar’s sovereign wealth fund this year, has 98 percent of its office assets in secondary business locations, Menda said.
    “We are on a terrific acquisition spree,” Menda said in a phone interview. RMZ, based in Bangalore, is buying office buildings in cities including Bangalore, Chennai, Pune, Hyderabad and the National Capital Region, he said.
    Bangalore is also home to Goldman Sachs Group Inc.’s third-largest office globally, while Nissan Motor Co. and Renault SA’s local units have their offices in Chennai.
    Private-equity funds are favoring India’s office market because of attractive yields and an anticipated pickup in demand as the economy shows signs of stabilizing. The rupee has gained 9.5 percent from a record-low Aug. 28, while overseas investors returned to buy $17 billion of stocks this year.

    GIC, Ascendas

    GIC Pte, Singapore’s sovereign wealth fund, and Ascendas Pte said Nov. 19 they plan to invest as much as S$600 million ($483 million) in Indian commercial property.
    Blackstone Group LP and HDFC Property Ventures Ltd., the private-equity unit of India’s largest mortgage lender, made a $367 million investment in Bangalore-based Embassy Group in February, according to data from Venture Intelligence, a research firm that tracks private-equity investments in India.
    Private-equity investors are looking at assets that offer stable yields, with returns from 8 percent to 10 percent on an annualized basis, coupled with some capital appreciation at the end of their holding period, which could be seven years to 10 years, Shashank Jain, executive director of transaction services at PwC, said in a phone interview from Mumbai.

    A pickup in demand enough to relieve some of the office glut may be slow in coming. Annual supply this year is estimated at about 40 million square feet, while demand will be for about 25 million square feet, according to data from Cushman.

    Every year progressively, office absorption has been declining since 2011,” Magazine at CBRE said. “The current office supply may take about two years to get occupied.”
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  • Home buyers expect prices to fall in the next 6 months as indicated by housing sentiment index that fell by 20 per cent during July-September compared to the previous quarter, according to a survey by Indian Institute of Management Bangalore and property portal .
    The Housing Sentiment Index (HSI), jointly developed by IIM-Bangalore & , is based on an online survey of prospective home buyers in eight major cities of India -- Delhi, Noida, Gurgaon, Mumbai, Chennai, Hyderabad, Pune and Bangalore.
    "Home buyers across the nation expect real estate prices to fall over the next six months. The aggregate Housing Sentiment Index (HSI) dropped to 93 from 117 in the previous quarter, a decline of over 20 per cent," IIMB and , which is part of Times of India Group, said in a statement.
    A HSI of 100 suggests that buyers expect prices to remain at current levels, while values lower (greater) than 100 suggest that buyers expect prices to fall (rise).
    "An aggregate HSI score of 93 for the 8 cities surveyed indicates expectation of a price fall over the next 6 months. The index fell from 117 last quarter, which indicates a shift in sentiment among prospective home buyers," it added.
    Buyers in Bangalore still expect prices to marginally increase (HSI=106) while buyers in the other 7 major cities expect prices to fall, with Mumbai having the lowest HSI score of 81. The Telengana crisis seems to have hurt buyer sentiment in Hyderabad badly as its HSI score fell by over 30 per cent to 83, the report said.
    "The trend is strong in all the eight cities that were surveyed and reflects a shift from the previous quarter when buyers expected price rise to continue," the statement said.
    The percentage of buyers who expect prices to fall by more than 10 per cent has almost doubled from 14 per cent of sample last quarter to 25 per cent this quarter.
    "Not surprisingly, more buyers are willing to wait, with almost a third of our sample willing to wait more than a year before buying a property. The expected waiting time has increased to 9 months, something that does not augur well for the inventory-heavy industry," the report said.
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  • I am waiting to see if the prices fall. I have been holding off buying because of this. But if this doesn't happen in chennai then my wait will be in vain :(

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  • Some people are waiting for the prices to fall through out their life
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  • I started my wait just 2 months back!!

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