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  • Re : Hiranandani Upscale House of Hiranandani OMR Chennai

    Originally posted by rganeshin View Post
    - Do you know the complicated statement made by you above using words such as "limit to context", usage of phrase of sea view", "tenable","premium for the attributes" can be said in another way as below in a simple manner?

    "DOES HIRA OFFERS SEA VIEW OR SEA HORIZON VIEW?
    IT IS SEA HORIZON VIEW."
    Its overheated, just on a lighter note, not to hurt anyone:

    # rganeshin Can't you understand this simple complication. You should listen to Kamal speech or at least movie Dasavatharam. "Proper sea view illennu sollala, iruntha nallairukkumnu sollaren"

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    • Re : Hiranandani Upscale House of Hiranandani OMR Chennai

      Originally posted by rganeshin
      - Do you know the complicated statement made by you above using words such as "limit to context", usage of phrase of sea view", "tenable","premium for the attributes" can be said in another way as below in a simple manner?
      If you understand the context, it is not complicated.

      If you understand the crux of the exchange and know where it started, you would not digress and bring 'Sea Horizon' and 'Sea View' which is not the topic at all.

      It is all about the claim whether Hira can sell "Sea View" and charge premium in the backdrop of rising ECR skyline which can affect the view.

      Tenable - Can Hira defend the position of usage of "Sea View" as they claim? Precedence of earlier link supports the legality of such usage as well.

      Now, you can re-read, all the words/phrases would make sense and would look less complicated. If you have anything to say or bring relevant points to this exchange in the same context, I can engage further.

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      • Re : Hiranandani Upscale House of Hiranandani OMR Chennai

        Originally posted by maverick007 View Post
        If you understand the context, it is not complicated.

        If you understand the crux of the exchange and know where it started, you would not digress and bring 'Sea Horizon' and 'Sea View' which is not the topic at all.

        It is all about the claim whether Hira can sell "Sea View" and charge premium in the backdrop of rising ECR skyline which can affect the view.

        Tenable - Can Hira defend the position of usage of "Sea View" as they claim? Precedence of earlier link supports the legality of such usage as well.

        Now, you can re-read, all the words/phrases would make sense and would look less complicated. If you have anything to say or bring relevant points to this exchange in the same context, I can engage further.
        My original point was weather the premium base price and looting other costs are justified? Because, Luxury GC claim is doomed with recent launch of low spec towers, future development phases uncertain-not committed, unreasonable escalation clause and NOW sea view uncertainty. Only the last part is taken out and still debating to justify the builder. I could not understand why? I am again posting my three posts which has consolidated views of Why STILL Hira should command premium base price and unreasonable other costs?

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        #1630
        Originally posted by Haojin View Post
        So the premium tag of sea view on Hira is/ (will) also go for a toss, it comes with uncertainty but at such a premium price tag?

        # 1634
        Originally posted by Haojin View Post
        Until now it was believed no high rise development will come up in ECR, now such developments started. If more such developments happen along ECR, which must be obvious, uninterrupted view cannot be taken for granted. In future it would be uncertain is my point, we cannot guess now, but can suspect, future developments decide how much it would geometrically obstruct the view. Hence I am coming to the point, Hira should reduce its premium pricing, place its feet on earth. My compliant is on their pricing without proper justification.

        With downgrading of spec for recent launching towers, Luxury GC claim is doomed. Now a shadow on Sea view claim. Slowest selling property in OMR, further launch of phases in pipeline, how long can hold the premium pricing, looting other charges?

        Not to forget, when DLF launched Garden city project at 3200 in 2007-08, thee was a mad rush - claimed at that time this project is going to be the best luxury project - Gurgon-Noida story is in the making etc. How it crash landed is history.

        # 1639
        Originally posted by Haojin View Post
        When sea view is not certain, does only brand value command such premium on base price and also is it the justification for looting on other costs?

        I think quality and spec should command premium, shall reflect reasonably in base price and not just brand.

        # With dirt cheap price of land parcel bought long back, why huge premium base price,
        # looting on other costs,
        # not even mentioning carpet area in the agreement,
        # not even mentioning the overall development plan of the layout- atleast at each phase level,
        # completely one sided agreeement,
        # long gestation periof of 5-6 years for their own benefit
        # taking 90% plus payment- waiting periof of further 2-3 years,
        # no reasonable penalty clause
        # initial branding of luxury tag- later downgrading specs for certain towers
        # after booking reveling escalation cost

        Does all these factors make them to qualify to be called premium brand?

        Does premium brand imply higher price, missing transperency and basic ethics?

        Past performance somewhere else created the goodwill and brand name, yes completely agree, when it cannot be carried forward nicely in other geographics -specifically project in question, tend to lose the premium brand tag. On laounch way back in 2007-08, brand value was flying in colors, after all the above factors come to light, the way carry out, brand value tend to vanish, must land on ground sometime if not already.

        One yard stick for VGN/Purva/DLF/shoba/Mantri and golden scale for premium builders even if they are completely unreasonable cannot be applied.

        Note they have more land parcel in the same layout for further phases and Urbania land parcel.

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        • Re : Hiranandani Upscale House of Hiranandani OMR Chennai

          Originally posted by rganeshin
          "DOES HIRA OFFERS SEA VIEW OR SEA HORIZON VIEW?
          IT IS SEA HORIZON VIEW."
          Above is what it is. Technically, you are correct.

          I feel looking for technical correctness is setting the bar way too high for the builders where blatant misleading is the norm. Try the below.

          Osian Chlorophyll: Of course, our Air is Pure. We make it ourselves.
          Above is blatant misleading from the point of technical correctness. We all know the meaning of "Air is pure". Zero pollution. Their claim is baloney. Their main USP is green stuff and they make such tall claims. But, these things usually pass...
          Last edited November 4 2014, 08:15 AM.

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          • Re : Hiranandani Upscale House of Hiranandani OMR Chennai

            Originally posted by Haojin
            Only the last part is taken out and still debating to justify the builder. I could not understand why?
            Taking your specific claim and showing it lacks basis, is not justifying the builder in general.

            With such reasoning notwithstanding and a statement such as below, *may* answer why the rest of your claims may not have been taken seriously. It is important not to dilute the strength of some strong claims you may have, by adding frivolous ones, which raises questions on your intent and earnestness.

            # With dirt cheap price of land parcel bought long back, why huge premium base price,
            Last edited November 4 2014, 09:59 AM.

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            • Re : Hiranandani Upscale House of Hiranandani OMR Chennai

              Originally posted by maverick007 View Post
              If you understand the context, it is not complicated.

              If you understand the crux of the exchange and know where it started, you would not digress and bring 'Sea Horizon' and 'Sea View' which is not the topic at all.

              It is all about the claim whether Hira can sell "Sea View" and charge premium in the backdrop of rising ECR skyline which can affect the view.

              - The key word in the question "Sea View" itself is debatable / ambiguous , hence this was brought in. The whole topic started with this key word on which the question is based.


              Tenable - Can Hira defend the position of usage of "Sea View" as they claim? Precedence of earlier link supports the legality of such usage as well.

              Now, you can re-read, all the words/phrases would make sense and would look less complicated. If you have anything to say or bring relevant points to this exchange in the same context, I can engage further.
              I would stick to my earlier stand on this irrelevant google searches. Like semantics / geometrics these don't come into a normal buyers mind after reading exclusive city by the sea offerings.

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              • Re : Hiranandani Upscale House of Hiranandani OMR Chennai

                Originally posted by maverick007 View Post
                Above is what it is. Technically, you are correct.

                LIKE

                I feel looking for technical correctness is setting the bar way too high for the builders where blatant misleading is the norm. Try the below.

                Above is blatant misleading from the point of technical correctness. We all know the meaning of "Air is pure". Zero pollution. Their claim is baloney. Their main USP is green stuff and they make such tall claims. But, these things usually pass...

                You are right partially here, but the only difference between osian and hira is - osian's price is not based on their USP offering , this is one among their offerings, unlike hira which levies premium charges for this unique offering.

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                • Re : Hiranandani Upscale House of Hiranandani OMR Chennai

                  Originally posted by rganeshin View Post

                  You are right partially here, but the only difference between osian and hira is - osian's price is not based on their USP offering , this is one among their offerings, unlike hira which levies premium charges for this unique offering.
                  You are wrong to think that there is no premium. Being a community-wide USP in Osian's, it is already in the price. Buyers are paying premium which is built in to all the units and hence it is difficult to quantify the premium. It does not mean that the premium does not exist.

                  Do you think it costs nothing to set up the vegetation/parks on roof tops, they are claiming as USP? That is the premium and with out which each unit would cost less. Hence, the campaign "Our air is pure" is a gimmick and misleading.

                  There is a big difference between Sea View claim of Hira and this fraudulent claim of Osian. At least, Hira can legally stand citing differences in semantics while Osian will be caught red-handed if their claim is ever under scrutiny.
                  Last edited November 4 2014, 11:08 AM.

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                  • Re : Hiranandani Upscale House of Hiranandani OMR Chennai

                    Originally posted by maverick007 View Post
                    You are wrong to think that there is no premium. Being a community-wide USP in Osian's, it is already in the price. Buyers are paying premium which is built in to all the units and hence it is difficult to quantify the premium. It does not mean that the premium does not exist.

                    Do you think it costs nothing to set up the vegetation/parks on roof tops, they are claiming as USP? That is the premium and with out which each unit would cost less. Hence, the campaign "Our air is pure" is a gimmick and misleading.

                    There is a big difference between Sea View claim of Hira and this fraudulent claim of Osian. At least, Hira can legally stand citing differences in semantics while Osian will be caught red-handed if their claim is ever under scrutiny.
                    Osian price inclusive of premium or not is another debate. However if you look at the other project in the same area Osian base price is justifiable. Whereas in the case of Hira the price is 35%-40% higher to other nearby projects, such huge looting premium built on various hyped tags gradually vanished, now only remain is the skeleton, those who invested on "hyped branded premium" are keeping fingers crossed!! At least now in the changed market condition one has to realize it's day light robbery.
                    Last edited November 4 2014, 11:34 AM.

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                    • Re : Hiranandani Upscale House of Hiranandani OMR Chennai

                      Originally posted by maverick007 View Post
                      You are wrong to think that there is no premium. Being a community-wide USP in Osian's, it is already in the price. Buyers are paying premium which is built in to all the units and hence it is difficult to quantify the premium. It does not mean that the premium does not exist.

                      Do you think it costs nothing to set up the vegetation/parks on roof tops, they are claiming as USP? That is the premium and with out which each unit would cost less. Hence, the campaign "Our air is pure" is a gimmick and misleading.


                      There is a big difference between Sea View claim of Hira and this fraudulent claim of Osian. At least, Hira can legally stand citing differences in semantics while Osian will be caught red-handed if their claim is ever under scrutiny.
                      - Wrong Again. Do you think the terrace vegetation offered by osian is impossible to implement. I feel setting up gardening / vegetation by a builder executing this type of a project is not a big deal. Once set up the offering will be fulfilled as advertised.

                      - Can hira make an offer of sea view in the true sense ?

                      - I am happy you brought this up which will enable me to ask this million dollar question
                      Even after the inclusion of premium in pricing, the price range of osian chlorophyl is on par infact lower on comparison with the upcoming GCs in the area. IS THIS THE SAME IN CASE OF HIRA ????

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