Does anyone know when is Nahar planning to complete the construction for their 8 new towers? I have booked a flat in Tilia. Earlier they had mentioned that the possession will be in Dec 2009, but doesnt seem to be the case. The sales office are not giving a clear picture as to when the house will be ready.

Anyone has any additional info on when will possession be offered ?

Also, what is the current booking price at Nahar in these new towers? I am planning to buy another house, so wanted to do some homework before I pitch to them.

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  • Look what a disaster

    Read on the following to know that promised amenities are cut out bluntly in the nahar campus : Is there much more to come and is this happening ??

    Views welcome Thxs

    Beware! Agreement of Nahar Amrit Shakti (Chandivali) is a Trap
    17 March 2012, Mumbai: Do educated people handcuff themselves? Yes, very often.

    The big boss of Nahar Group – one of India’s biggest builders – routinely makes top professionals and businessmen tie up their own hands. A large number of such people own properties in Nahar Amrit Shakti Complex Chandivali, near Powai. Ask Sukhraj B. Nahar. Lured by dreams of greenery, world-class amenities and rapid capital appreciation, intelligent people from Mumbai, Dubai, UK etc. book homes in Nahar Amrit Shakti complex. The prestigious address, the sheer size of the complex, and the involvement of HDFC Realty in this marketing exercise gives buyers a feeling of comfort and security.

    However, the dreams are false. The reality of Nahar Amrit Shakti turns out to be dry and dusty. But people who buy homes from Sukhraj Nahar seldom fight for their rights. Poocho kyon?

    Because, in their Flat Purchase/Sale Agreement, they renounce their right to seek legal remedies. Call it bullishness, lack of due diligence or herd mentality –- the flat purchasers readily agree to numerous illegal and discriminatory terms and conditions. Buyers are lulled into an unquestioning state-of-mind by the silver-tongued sales staff working for Nahar Group and HDFC Realty. (Buyers fall into a trap by ignoring the crucial fact that Nahar Enterprises, Nahar Builders & Developers, and Nahar Amrit Shakti Project Ltd. are all separate entities, and the obligations of one is not necessarily the obligation of the other.

    Here is a case study: Someone bought an apartment in Lantana building in Nahar Amrit Shakti complex. It is one of the 17 buildings built like conjoined twins inside a single plot called Sector R-12. See this layout: Lantana and other buildings in Sector R-12.jpg - File Shared from Box - Free Online File Storage

    • THE GREEN PROMISE: Nahar’s Amrit Shakti – 8 New towers – Promotional Video | POWAI INFO

    • THE DUSTY REALITY: Nahar Amrit Shakti Photos March 2012 - Folder Shared from Box - Free Online File Storage

    These photos show flat-purchasers living on a dusty construction site with stone quarrying happening in the surrounding hills, under Nahar’s supervision. The promised lush gardens, clubhouse and parking podiums are simply not there. The parking podiums in almost all the buildings of Sector R-12 of Nahar Amrit Shakti have been illegally converted into duplex flats for sale. If MCGM increases the FSI or TDR in coming years, event the 50,000 sq ft. space reserved for the clubhouse will be converted into apartments; the stage has already been set by the agreement itself.

    See this AGREEMENT FOR SALE made in 2006: Extraneous parties in AGREEMENT that SB Nahar forces on purchasers.pdf - File Shared from Box - Free Online File Storage

    DOES THE AGREEMENT SPECIFY WHAT THE BUILDER MUST DELIVER, AND WHEN? NO. There are no dates and deadlines for delivery – not even tentative ones.

    DOES THE AGREEMENT SPECIFY COMMON AMENITIES? NO. It only contains a bare minimum promise of delivering flat no. 401 on the 4th floor of a building called Lantana in Sector R-12 Chandivali, having built-up area of 842 square feet in exchange for Rs 42.73 lakhs. Even the number of floors in the building is unspecified. The list of amenities says “Children’s Park” and “Recreation Garden”. How big? Where? By when? Not mentioned. See this: Nahar Amrit Shakti R-12 Amenities.jpg - File Shared from Box - Free Online File Storage

    Review this list in the light of what is shown in the Nahar Amrit Shakti promotional video or sales brochure. This list does not even mention the clubhouse, meditation hall, lush gardens, fountains, podium parking etc.

    DOES THE AGREEMENT SAFEGUARD THE BUYER? NO. It says that the builder can even mortgage the whole building if he wants. It talks about the rights and privileges of the land owners, who are signatories to this agreement, but is silent about their contractual obligations to the flat-buyer.

    Amazingly, Nahar Group’s standard agreement format says that the RIGHTS OF OTHER PARTIES, INCLUDING NAHAR, WILL TAKE PRIORITY OVER THE FLAT-PURCHASER’S BASIC RIGHTS such as light and space (casement rights), and enjoyment of common amenities like terrace. The flat-purchaser repeatedly affirms that having inspected numerous documents mentioned in the agreement, he is freely agreeing to all this.

    NINE PARTIES ARE MENTIONED IN THE AGREEMENT:
    Extraneous parties in AGREEMENT that SB Nahar forces on purchasers.pdf - File Shared from Box - Free Online File Storage ]

    (i) NAHAR ENTERPRISES. Please remember, this is a bilateral agreement for Sale between Mr Raina “The Flat Purchaser” and Nahar Enterprises “The Builder”. This agreement is about the flat, the amenities and the money paid for it; everything else diverts it from its legitimate purpose. ALL THE OTHER PARTIES MENTIONED BELOW DILUTE THIS AGREEMENT.

    (ii) FOUR HUFS CONSISTING OF ORIGINAL LAND OWNERS. Contradicting point (i), Nahar Amrit Shakti’s Agreement for Sale is between Mr Raina, Nahar Enterprises and the land owners, “The Owners”. It says on page 25 that although the Owners are a party to this agreement, the Builders and the Owners are “independent contracting parties on Principal to Principal basis” and are not to be considered as “Promoter” as per MOFA Act 1963. Inclusion of the owners enables S B Nahar to pass the buck. If the flat-purchaser takes the builder to court for breach of agreement, the land owners too may get dragged in, complicating the litigation. Because of this, the flat-buyer’s chances of getting legal remedies against the builder are minimized.

    (iii) CHANDIVALI DEVELOPMENT CORPN, LATER DISSOLVED. “The Owners” formed separate agreements with Messrs Chandivli Development Corporation (called “The Corporation”) for developing their lands. The Owners, the Corporation and the Builder signed two tripartite agreements. Authorized by the Owners and the Corporation, the Builder (Nahar Enterprises) got layout plans prepared by architects. But later, Chandivali Corporation was dissolved, and the owners are now dealing with the builder as individuals. So why is it mentioned in the agreement? Because it can be used to confuse the court if necessary.

    (iv) COOPERATIVE SOCIETY. A cooperative society must no doubt be formed by the flat purchaser and his neighbours in due course, but why mention it in this agreement? The agreement says that the coop. society or condominium as being responsible for management and maintenance. So, if the building is not well maintained, Nahar says, “Don’t look at me, go to the society!” And if the society has not yet been formed, he can say, “That is your fault.” On page 27, Nahar casts the duty of complying with mandatory fire-safety requirements on the society, thereby shirking his own legal liabilities.

    (v) AD-HOC COMMITTEE TO BE FORMED BY ALL COOP. SOCIETIES for maintenance etc. More buck-passing opportunities for Nahar.

    (vi) FEDERATION OF COOP. SOCIETIES. The agreement says Nahar will give conveyance only after a federation is formed for Nahar Amrit Shakti Sector R-12. Given our busy lives, it is hard enough for us to form cooperative societies. It is inconceivably more difficult for 17 such societies of different sizes, representing about 1500 flats, to form a federation. Nahar knows this. So, forget about getting conveyance!

    (vii) NAHAR BUILDERS & DEVELOPERS LIMITED. Please note, “Nahar Builders and Developers” is not the same as “Nahar Enterprises”. According to the agreement, Nahar Builders & Developers has “agreed to provide club facilities to the flat purchasers of Nahar Amrit Shakti”. But it is not a signatory, only “Nahar Enterprises” is. The legal implication is that Nahar Enterprises, “The Builder”, cannot be held responsible for the promised clubhouse, and it will never be included in the conveyance.

    (viii) POTENTIAL LENDERS TO WHOM THE BUILDER MAY MORTAGE THE BUILDING. The agreement says that the builder is at liberty to mortgage the building to raise funds for any purpose whatsoever. Use your imagination: the loan may be for covering S B Nahar’s losses in the share market, or something equally irrelevant. So where does that leave the flat-purchaser?

    (ix) STONE QUARRY OPERATORS WHO HAVE LEASED HILLS FROM LAND OWNERS. The agreement names several quarry operators and their individual leases. This means that the flat purchaser cannot complain to the builder against the noise and dust; he will not even be able to go to court against it, because it is part of his agreement. Don’t ask questions such as: Is quarrying allowed within city limits? Have the owners got Environment Ministry clearance? S B Nahar can shrug and say that it is the decision of individual land-owners, and not his responsibility.

    Are we finished with counting the loopholes? No, not yet. A dozen other unlawful points are lurking in the same agreement. We hope that some lawyers and owners of Nahar Amrit Shakti properties will also apply their mind to such agreements, so the the government is forced to review its policies and close the loopholes.

    Until we write the next article on this topic, read the agreement by yourself and see what all you can spot. Also, please share your experiences and give us feedback. We look forward to receiving your feedback and reviews.

    Building.RTI.union@gmail.com
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  • I personally have turned down a few projects purely based on what is in the documents........ And people have said, "everyone is doing the deal not just you. Chhoti baat hai, sab agreements aise hi hote hai".

    People have really developed herd mentality and builders are making perfect use of this. When I showed one such document to a lawyer, he said some of the clauses put were downright ridiculous whilst others even illegal. Don't understand how people buy their life's biggest asset without going through the small print. Wake up guys ! You are being embezzeled in broad day light.
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  • Law

    Originally Posted by Hasmukh
    I personally have turned down a few projects purely based on what is in the documents........ And people have said, "everyone is doing the deal not just you. Chhoti baat hai, sab agreements aise hi hote hai".

    People have really developed herd mentality and builders are making perfect use of this. When I showed one such document to a lawyer, he said some of the clauses put were downright ridiculous whilst others even illegal. Don't understand how people buy their life's biggest asset without going through the small print. Wake up guys ! You are being embezzeled in broad day light.


    Thanks for your suggestion. But is there no law/ rule in place that do not allow such absurd agreements ??
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  • I agree

    There is no water now a days at Nahar, only pollution and construction all the time. Life at Nahar is a horrible experience.


    Originally Posted by kumarm77
    Read on the following to know that promised amenities are cut out bluntly in the nahar campus : Is there much more to come and is this happening ??

    Views welcome Thxs

    Beware! Agreement of Nahar Amrit Shakti (Chandivali) is a Trap
    17 March 2012, Mumbai: Do educated people handcuff themselves? Yes, very often.

    The big boss of Nahar Group – one of India’s biggest builders – routinely makes top professionals and businessmen tie up their own hands. A large number of such people own properties in Nahar Amrit Shakti Complex Chandivali, near Powai. Ask Sukhraj B. Nahar. Lured by dreams of greenery, world-class amenities and rapid capital appreciation, intelligent people from Mumbai, Dubai, UK etc. book homes in Nahar Amrit Shakti complex. The prestigious address, the sheer size of the complex, and the involvement of HDFC Realty in this marketing exercise gives buyers a feeling of comfort and security.

    However, the dreams are false. The reality of Nahar Amrit Shakti turns out to be dry and dusty. But people who buy homes from Sukhraj Nahar seldom fight for their rights. Poocho kyon?

    Because, in their Flat Purchase/Sale Agreement, they renounce their right to seek legal remedies. Call it bullishness, lack of due diligence or herd mentality –- the flat purchasers readily agree to numerous illegal and discriminatory terms and conditions. Buyers are lulled into an unquestioning state-of-mind by the silver-tongued sales staff working for Nahar Group and HDFC Realty. (Buyers fall into a trap by ignoring the crucial fact that Nahar Enterprises, Nahar Builders & Developers, and Nahar Amrit Shakti Project Ltd. are all separate entities, and the obligations of one is not necessarily the obligation of the other.

    Here is a case study: Someone bought an apartment in Lantana building in Nahar Amrit Shakti complex. It is one of the 17 buildings built like conjoined twins inside a single plot called Sector R-12. See this layout: Lantana and other buildings in Sector R-12.jpg - File Shared from Box - Free Online File Storage

    • THE GREEN PROMISE: Nahar’s Amrit Shakti – 8 New towers – Promotional Video | POWAI INFO

    • THE DUSTY REALITY: Nahar Amrit Shakti Photos March 2012 - Folder Shared from Box - Free Online File Storage

    These photos show flat-purchasers living on a dusty construction site with stone quarrying happening in the surrounding hills, under Nahar’s supervision. The promised lush gardens, clubhouse and parking podiums are simply not there. The parking podiums in almost all the buildings of Sector R-12 of Nahar Amrit Shakti have been illegally converted into duplex flats for sale. If MCGM increases the FSI or TDR in coming years, event the 50,000 sq ft. space reserved for the clubhouse will be converted into apartments; the stage has already been set by the agreement itself.

    See this AGREEMENT FOR SALE made in 2006: Extraneous parties in AGREEMENT that SB Nahar forces on purchasers.pdf - File Shared from Box - Free Online File Storage

    DOES THE AGREEMENT SPECIFY WHAT THE BUILDER MUST DELIVER, AND WHEN? NO. There are no dates and deadlines for delivery – not even tentative ones.

    DOES THE AGREEMENT SPECIFY COMMON AMENITIES? NO. It only contains a bare minimum promise of delivering flat no. 401 on the 4th floor of a building called Lantana in Sector R-12 Chandivali, having built-up area of 842 square feet in exchange for Rs 42.73 lakhs. Even the number of floors in the building is unspecified. The list of amenities says “Children’s Park” and “Recreation Garden”. How big? Where? By when? Not mentioned. See this: Nahar Amrit Shakti R-12 Amenities.jpg - File Shared from Box - Free Online File Storage

    Review this list in the light of what is shown in the Nahar Amrit Shakti promotional video or sales brochure. This list does not even mention the clubhouse, meditation hall, lush gardens, fountains, podium parking etc.

    DOES THE AGREEMENT SAFEGUARD THE BUYER? NO. It says that the builder can even mortgage the whole building if he wants. It talks about the rights and privileges of the land owners, who are signatories to this agreement, but is silent about their contractual obligations to the flat-buyer.

    Amazingly, Nahar Group’s standard agreement format says that the RIGHTS OF OTHER PARTIES, INCLUDING NAHAR, WILL TAKE PRIORITY OVER THE FLAT-PURCHASER’S BASIC RIGHTS such as light and space (casement rights), and enjoyment of common amenities like terrace. The flat-purchaser repeatedly affirms that having inspected numerous documents mentioned in the agreement, he is freely agreeing to all this.

    NINE PARTIES ARE MENTIONED IN THE AGREEMENT:
    Extraneous parties in AGREEMENT that SB Nahar forces on purchasers.pdf - File Shared from Box - Free Online File Storage ]

    (i) NAHAR ENTERPRISES. Please remember, this is a bilateral agreement for Sale between Mr Raina “The Flat Purchaser” and Nahar Enterprises “The Builder”. This agreement is about the flat, the amenities and the money paid for it; everything else diverts it from its legitimate purpose. ALL THE OTHER PARTIES MENTIONED BELOW DILUTE THIS AGREEMENT.

    (ii) FOUR HUFS CONSISTING OF ORIGINAL LAND OWNERS. Contradicting point (i), Nahar Amrit Shakti’s Agreement for Sale is between Mr Raina, Nahar Enterprises and the land owners, “The Owners”. It says on page 25 that although the Owners are a party to this agreement, the Builders and the Owners are “independent contracting parties on Principal to Principal basis” and are not to be considered as “Promoter” as per MOFA Act 1963. Inclusion of the owners enables S B Nahar to pass the buck. If the flat-purchaser takes the builder to court for breach of agreement, the land owners too may get dragged in, complicating the litigation. Because of this, the flat-buyer’s chances of getting legal remedies against the builder are minimized.

    (iii) CHANDIVALI DEVELOPMENT CORPN, LATER DISSOLVED. “The Owners” formed separate agreements with Messrs Chandivli Development Corporation (called “The Corporation”) for developing their lands. The Owners, the Corporation and the Builder signed two tripartite agreements. Authorized by the Owners and the Corporation, the Builder (Nahar Enterprises) got layout plans prepared by architects. But later, Chandivali Corporation was dissolved, and the owners are now dealing with the builder as individuals. So why is it mentioned in the agreement? Because it can be used to confuse the court if necessary.

    (iv) COOPERATIVE SOCIETY. A cooperative society must no doubt be formed by the flat purchaser and his neighbours in due course, but why mention it in this agreement? The agreement says that the coop. society or condominium as being responsible for management and maintenance. So, if the building is not well maintained, Nahar says, “Don’t look at me, go to the society!” And if the society has not yet been formed, he can say, “That is your fault.” On page 27, Nahar casts the duty of complying with mandatory fire-safety requirements on the society, thereby shirking his own legal liabilities.

    (v) AD-HOC COMMITTEE TO BE FORMED BY ALL COOP. SOCIETIES for maintenance etc. More buck-passing opportunities for Nahar.

    (vi) FEDERATION OF COOP. SOCIETIES. The agreement says Nahar will give conveyance only after a federation is formed for Nahar Amrit Shakti Sector R-12. Given our busy lives, it is hard enough for us to form cooperative societies. It is inconceivably more difficult for 17 such societies of different sizes, representing about 1500 flats, to form a federation. Nahar knows this. So, forget about getting conveyance!

    (vii) NAHAR BUILDERS & DEVELOPERS LIMITED. Please note, “Nahar Builders and Developers” is not the same as “Nahar Enterprises”. According to the agreement, Nahar Builders & Developers has “agreed to provide club facilities to the flat purchasers of Nahar Amrit Shakti”. But it is not a signatory, only “Nahar Enterprises” is. The legal implication is that Nahar Enterprises, “The Builder”, cannot be held responsible for the promised clubhouse, and it will never be included in the conveyance.

    (viii) POTENTIAL LENDERS TO WHOM THE BUILDER MAY MORTAGE THE BUILDING. The agreement says that the builder is at liberty to mortgage the building to raise funds for any purpose whatsoever. Use your imagination: the loan may be for covering S B Nahar’s losses in the share market, or something equally irrelevant. So where does that leave the flat-purchaser?

    (ix) STONE QUARRY OPERATORS WHO HAVE LEASED HILLS FROM LAND OWNERS. The agreement names several quarry operators and their individual leases. This means that the flat purchaser cannot complain to the builder against the noise and dust; he will not even be able to go to court against it, because it is part of his agreement. Don’t ask questions such as: Is quarrying allowed within city limits? Have the owners got Environment Ministry clearance? S B Nahar can shrug and say that it is the decision of individual land-owners, and not his responsibility.

    Are we finished with counting the loopholes? No, not yet. A dozen other unlawful points are lurking in the same agreement. We hope that some lawyers and owners of Nahar Amrit Shakti properties will also apply their mind to such agreements, so the the government is forced to review its policies and close the loopholes.

    Until we write the next article on this topic, read the agreement by yourself and see what all you can spot. Also, please share your experiences and give us feedback. We look forward to receiving your feedback and reviews.

    Building.RTI.union@gmail.com
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  • Dude the flats suck, if you are ready to pay a premium and get noise and air pollution from Kherani road every day buy in a flat which has no views because all flats look into each other. Its a horrible complex. No club no promise full filled no water no greens...only concrete.

    Originally Posted by Agastya07
    14 L is for 2 car park.
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  • Let me share some insights, parking is a shame and a pain in Nahar, there is no provision for extra parking, there are way to many flats here, no parking space

    Originally Posted by kumarm77
    Ansariji

    Sorry could not reply as i was almost locked out from logging in from IRES -password problem i guess. am still puzzled

    However no news about society formation or car parking allocation which i will check. Was this on a lottery basis or first come first served basis?
    But will check on this and keep you posted. How are things going-
    I was however amazed at the hike in prices to Rs 11500psf recently
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  • Bang! Reality strikes!!!!

    You booked a flat at Nahar just like me...! No wok going on your flats since ages they are now working on Yvonne!

    Originally Posted by NaharAmrit
    but why dec 2012 ? i think it is of 22 floors and till 20 is done ..

    so it means by march all slabs will be done and rest is brick work and all .. it should not take more than 4 months ..

    Please correct me if i am wrong
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  • What can be done

    Originally Posted by annyliverpoo
    Bang! Reality strikes!!!!

    You booked a flat at Nahar just like me...! No wok going on your flats since ages they are now working on Yvonne!


    Knowing all this is distressing matter, but more importantly is to know what can be done effectively to curb this relentless ongoing issues on this project.


    cheers
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  • Originally Posted by annyliverpoo
    Dude the flats suck, if you are ready to pay a premium and get noise and air pollution from Kherani road every day buy in a flat which has no views because all flats look into each other. Its a horrible complex. No club no promise full filled no water no greens...only concrete.


    Hi, thanks for your advise. For your info. I will never ever book any property in Nahar.
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  • Jonquille -Nahar Amrit Shakti

    Hi Guys,any real invetor/end user with current status,anticipated handing over date ? Pollusion / construction ongoing on other adjacent towers but natural in Mumbai .Anyone recently to Hiranandani Gardens so called poss development ,pollusion / traffiq jam 5 min walk takes 40 min.by car.
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  • any new update guys ?? i called up their office .. they are saying possession for laurel and liliac will be done by jan 2013
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  • Nahar Jonquille

    First quarter 2013 realistic to commence possession,sure once podium garden is developed and adjacent road completethis it will become good place to live for end user
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  • any update on club house. i heard work has been stalled & garden is partially complete
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  • Parking allocation in 8 towers

    Kumarji,

    Any news about about parking allocation in 8 towers ?



    Has anyone else head about it ???
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  • Hi Everybody...
    I too have a flat in Jamaica Tower. I just received one letter from Nahar mentioning that Service Area is increased by 40 sq. ft and asked to come and meet the Managment Co-ordinator regarding the same. Also, when I asked about possession, I was informed that its gonna be in early 2013.

    Anybody else have received the letter?

    Rent seems reasonable, I would also like to rent out my flat once get possession.
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