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I want to buy a 250 sq. yard plot in BPTP sector - 85, Faridabad for personal use. Can any body tell me that how much time this area will take to develop so that I can build on it? I have also heard that EDC & IDC has been increased by Rs. 1100/- per sq. yard which was before Rs. 1470/- per sq. yard. So should I invest or not? Please suggest.


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Alok Chauhan
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  • Originally Posted by BlessU
    Hi
    Greetings

    Very convincing.. itna bhi bura nahin hai!!!...:bab (59)::bab (59):
    and that too to ncrplots who is clearly saying that he got registry date THREE YEARS after offer of possession and being charged full amount for final demand+EDC/EEDC+Utility+ESS/STP+Stamp Duty+Registration charges+ CLUB+ IBMS for three years wait for registry!!!.

    PURE NCR main gine chune builder honge aise NAMUNE.

    -No permanent Utility Connections being provided and instead buyers being asked to provide completion certificate as a PRE CONDITION for permanent power, water, sewerage.
    -CLUB under construction 4 kms away, for many years and not sure when it will be delivered
    - ESS/STP charges while nothing has been done on ground and completely illegal.

    God forbid if someone abroad has to get registry done through SPA. List of documents required is always incomplete and buyer has to trust in almighty.

    @NCRPLOTS:
    Be particular about bank signature verification in case of SPA for both buyer and SPA
    SBI 100 challan for verification of ID of SPA holder by DC office,
    Your maintenance BOOKLET and pathetic indemnity bond asking you to surrender all rights (tweak it before submitting)

    Cheers


    Thanks BlessU! Totally agree with you on BPTP... I am out of words to say how pathetic BPTP is..

    Fortunately I am in NCR these days so no SPA required... Can you please elaborate a little on tweaking indemnity bond... is that something BPTP gets our sign before the registry? will they really allow tweaking?

    Thanks again!
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  • Originally Posted by invinci
    Don't worry registry process will be smooth,Mana builder bura hai but itna bhi nahin.


    really? you are referring to BPTP here right? the plots were launched in 2005.... it will be 10 years in a few weeks... 10 years!
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  • I know sab bhare baithe hain,I just meant to say that if you have already been informed about date of mutation and you have already done with pushing builder for getting registry done,there are less chances of this going wrong but yes one should be aware of double check with all papers and read before signing on dotted line.
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  • Originally Posted by invinci
    I know sab bhare baithe hain,I just meant to say that if you have already been informed about date of mutation and you have already done with pushing builder for getting registry done,there are less chances of this going wrong but yes one should be aware of double check with all papers and read before signing on dotted line.


    Hi
    Greetings

    Now if registry is done, it is next to impossible for someone to invest 40-1cr on construction, as it would be always expected that utilities, facilities, amenities should be in place. Property should be well maintained, clean, green, painted, with security of men and material. Lot can be done in terms of landscaping and providing green parks with kids play areas.

    All this is possible only if any RWA takes the property away from BPTP. In case of NCRPlots though possession is being offered after a delay of 3 years, he has been paying maintenance for all the three years during which property was not in his name. Who knows BPTP had/has 3rd party encumbrance on it, which means that it is unjustified to charge the buyer maintenance for all these years when he was/is not the title holder of the property.

    Unless people come together and form a functional RWA, builder is happy doing his bit in fits, fails and starts.

    Cheers
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  • Originally Posted by BlessU
    Hi
    Greetings

    Now if registry is done, it is next to impossible for someone to invest 40-1cr on construction, as it would be always expected that utilities, facilities, amenities should be in place. Property should be well maintained, clean, green, painted, with security of men and material. Lot can be done in terms of landscaping and providing green parks with kids play areas.

    All this is possible only if any RWA takes the property away from BPTP. In case of NCRPlots though possession is being offered after a delay of 3 years, he has been paying maintenance for all the three years during which property was not in his name. Who knows BPTP had/has 3rd party encumbrance on it, which means that it is unjustified to charge the buyer maintenance for all these years when he was/is not the title holder of the property.

    Unless people come together and form a functional RWA, builder is happy doing his bit in fits, fails and starts.

    Cheers


    Well said BlessU!!!

    But, I would like bring one more point of view here. Current prices in all BPTP sectors are 25K to 40K per sq yd. Once all amenities are there, rates will be at par with HUDA sectors which are only 2-3km away (80K-100K per sq yard). Even in unauthorized colonies, the plots are selling ~15K per sq yard. Recently I met one small developer who is selling new plots near village Bhataula for Rs 15K PSYD...

    No doubt BPTP is not willing to take any development work, the buyers need to stand up & fight for their rights to make things happen.
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  • Originally Posted by cgd3psg
    Well said BlessU!!!

    But, I would like bring one more point of view here. Current prices in all BPTP sectors are 25K to 40K per sq yd. Once all amenities are there, rates will be at par with HUDA sectors which are only 2-3km away (80K-100K per sq yard). Even in unauthorized colonies, the plots are selling ~15K per sq yard. Recently I met one small developer who is selling new plots near village Bhataula for Rs 15K PSYD...

    No doubt BPTP is not willing to take any development work, the buyers need to stand up & fight for their rights to make things happen.


    Hi
    Greetings

    WHY ONLY 80K-1Lac???

    If the builder gets his act right, maintains landscaping, ensures people dont litter around, maintain proper lighting, footpaths, have the streetlight poles painted, lights lit, trees planted, parks maintained, provide all that was originally intended... this area could surpass the nereby poorly maintained HUDA sectors.

    HUDA never is/was any competition and price is only a side effect for a well developed and maintained society with huge greens, proper infra/amenities.

    For now, the property is beaten down and therefore the prices, for which the builder alone is responsible. Until the maintenance and amenities are put in place, investors/endusers can expect no improvement in prices.

    RWA needs to take over the maintenance and get IBMS and common areas conveyed in its name.

    Cheers
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  • All what is needed 100 house owners to teach bptp lesson by taking maintenance in their hands and one will see massive development can be done from the maintenance security of 6 years taken by bptp

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  • Is there any formal group of plot owners, who is fighting BPTP for all irregularities in Parklands???
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  • Originally Posted by cgd3psg
    Is there any formal group of plot owners, who is fighting BPTP for all irregularities in Parklands???


    Hi
    Greetings

    One association was registered and had a website. A facebook page still exists.
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Parkland-Owners-Association-Greater-Faridabad/527041243984570?fref=nf

    They formed a group and followed up seriously for ESS and STP charges.. went to High court after trying relentlessly with BPTP.

    CWP 24289 of 13, Order 7th Nov 13.pdf

    Some Rs100 psf relaxation was achieved.

    Based on which DTCP issued endorsement No. 3932 dated 20.02.2014 to BPTP. However, there is no trail after that. Perhaps a RTI can be filed to know action taken and proceedings if any.

    Another case by same group Case Details For Case CWP-11693-2013 PARKLANDS OWNERS ASSOCIATION V/S STATE OF HARYANA AND ORS.
    http://phhc.gov.in:8080/enq_caseno.php?var1=CWP&var2=11693&var3=2013
    DISMISSED on 28-MAY-2013 by HON'BLE MR. JUSTICE SATISH KUMAR MITTAL; HON'BLE MR. JUSTICE NARESH KUMAR SANGHI

    There is another group bptp-parklands.webs.com, wherein about 70+ members are present. Again the buyers need to make a concerted effort with contribution in terms of time, money and efforts, if something meaningful needs to be achieved.

    Nothing is impossible and now situation has changed a lot due to new government and administration.

    Cheers
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  • Originally Posted by cgd3psg
    Is there any formal group of plot owners, who is fighting BPTP for all irregularities in Parklands???


    Hi
    Greetings

    Message from President POAGF!!!

    Hi friends
    This is not a call for selling your plot.
    This is a call from PARKLAND OWNERS ASSOCIATION GREATER FARIDABAD
    Do you know that you have been cheated by BPTP LTD for almost Rs 2000/sq yd

    Do you know that the 220 kv sub station and the sewage treatment plant for which the BPTP has collected Rs 995/sq yd is being made by HUDA.and the collection by BPTP is illegal and cheating

    Do you know that the haryana Govt has demanded only Rs 200/sq yd for IDC for which the BPTP has collected Rs 445/sq yd from us
    etc etc

    we have formed an association and is fighting with BPTP on all theses issues in the national consumer forum and also filing an FIR against the BPTP .

    should you like to take your money back from BPTP along with interest kindly contact
    shri Amarjeet singh (9818433122) our senior member.


    Cheers
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  • Hi
    Greetings

    Looks like people have lot of stamina to bear the unethical, abusive business practice of BPTP endlessly



    More issues being raised by BPTP Parkland plot owners

    On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 10:15:34 +0530 wrote

    I have similar experience. While applying for the plot, I was told that the plot is loanable i.e Banks shall be giving loans for the plot allotted to us. After
    allotment in Nov 2006 ,we made payments due to up to May 2007, then approached banks for the loan in Dec 2006, who asked for certain documents in order to see loanablilty of the plot. We did not get any response from the BPTP. We had several meetings with
    Senior officials of BPTP, no one could help us. We could get documents by Feb 2008 , got the loan and immediately made payments to BPTP.
    However for delay in payments, we were asked to pay heavy interest.

    Approached BPTP officials with all the communications and all agreed that we( customer) is not at fault and told that it will be taken up during final audit
    before registry of the plot. Our plot got registered in the month of Oct 2014 and nothing happened to the interest.
    I have all the documents to prove that we approached BPTP officials for the documents and they did not respond or loan got delayed because of fault of BPTP
    only.
    Can somebody help?


    Warm regards

    ANOTHER COMPLAINT PLOT SHIFTED AFTER ALLOTMENT..




    BPTP is totally cheater.


    I had plot in G block (sec. 86) in North facing. After 90% payment, they changed location in PE block (Sec. 77) with West facing. They did so forcefully and asked me to cancel your booking.





    Regards




    Similar happened with me also, where my plot was changed after 90% payment.




    about 1 year back i got a letter from bptp stating that they are looking to refund some money for electric station after they look at the calculations but nothing since then.



    I will recommend that we can make a yahoo group for these discussions please. Is there already a group existing for bptp parklands?



    thanks

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/bptp-parklands
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  • ... another complaint..

    Dear All

    I applied for a plot in BPTP parklands Faridabad for 350 sq yards in 2006 for a total value of Rs39,37,500/- and paid 55% of the plot value Rs21,65,625/- plus EDC/IDC of Rs3,64,350/- way back in 2008.They sent me an agreement alloting me a plot no xxx0 in Oct-2008 and when I actually visited the site I came to know that xxxx was just a fictitious no and no plot like xxxx exists in Parklands.

    They have not alloted me any plot till date and everytime I send them a mail or visit them they assure me that I would be alloted the plot in 6 months time and this has been happening for last 6 years now.

    Pls advise how can I proceed.

    Best regards



    there is a complete section on FAQs, possible resolutions, formats, rti reverts etc..on the link Information-FAQs

    Cheers
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  • ... another one

    I was allocated plot no. xxx from BPTP which is cancelled by them 1.5 yrs back. Now from last 1.5 yrs they only given us date for the reallocation. Please guide what to do. Or if sombody filed a case gainst the same i whould like to join them.


    what patience people are showing towards open day light cheating.. how many more buyers will keep appearing affected for many many years, without delivery, without infrastructure, without permanent electricity, water, without plot, unethical charges etc..

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  • Why cant people Go to Court's simply and file Suit for.Specific Performance.and seek injunction against alloting the xxxx plot from which they are being reallocated to anyone else.
    I guess we the.INDIANS believe alot in Settlement. And taking a Call.and stand by it....

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  • Originally Posted by Manu87
    Why cant people Go to Court's simply and file Suit for.Specific Performance.and seek injunction against alloting the xxxx plot from which they are being reallocated to anyone else.
    I guess we the.INDIANS believe alot in Settlement. And taking a Call.and stand by it....

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    Hi
    Greetings

    My goodness, I am literally amazed at the extent of cases which are coming up. One single day 3 people with allotment for plots,, bloody hell.. today must be rechristened BPTP PLOT SCAM DAY..

    another one

    Dear Sir

    I also have similar case and I have already paid 100% payment but in spite of lots of follow up nothing has done.
    Please suggest any consultant / Lawyer who can help me for getting my plot.

    regards


    Cheers
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