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  • Re : Crossing Republik Latest Updates & Reviews

    The points might come in favour of DG:
    1. The area was earmarked, notified, planned for Dumping Ground.
    2. The area has obtained approvals from State Goverment and Ghaziabad authority.
    3. The area is being developed by GNN for dumping ground
    4. The court case also talks about it:
    The Vice Chairman, GDA considered the representation. The Nagar Nigam submitted in its reply, to the representation that Khasra No. 937 area about 50 bighas in village Dundahera, Tehsil and District Ghaziabad is a 'Banjar land' and is proposed for construction of SWMP as dumping yard. In a Writ Petition No.888 of 1996 (Almitra H. Patel vs. State of UP & others) filed in public interest the Supreme Court had given directions for establishment of Solid Waste Management Sewerage and Drainage Improvement Centre in the areas of Hindan Air Force Station in Ghaziabad City. Under the directions of the Supreme Court, in all the cities of the country, where Air Force Stations are established, 100% financial grants will be provided by the Ministry of Urban Development and Poverty Eradication of the Central Government, for urban waste management and to establish the plants for management of urban waste. The Ghaziabad city was also included in the scheme. The Municipal Solid Waste (Management) Rules 2000 were notified on 24.9.2000 by the Central Forest and Environment Ministry. In pursuance to the directions of the Supreme Court and the notification notifying Municipal Waste (Management) Rules 2000, a plan was prepared by the experts of HUDCO to select a site for disposal of urban waste by scientific means. The preparation of compost plant and land filling is the main part of this scheme. A joint inspection was made by the Deputy Advisor of C.P.H.O. associated with the Ministry of Urban Development and Poverty Eradication of the Central Government along with the experts of HUDCO, representatives of the Hindan Air Force and the Regional Manager of the U.P. Pollution Control Board. They identified the land of about 14 acres in village Dundahera, for construction of SWMP and the land was made available by Nagar Nigam to the UP Jal Nigam on 20.10.2004. A boundary wall was constructed around the land in village Dundahera by the Jal Nigam surrounding Khasra Nos. 030, 941, 937/1, 937/2, 944, 946, 949, 951 and 953.
    8. The Nagar Nigam submitted to the Vice Chairman, GDA that any obstruction in the proposed SWMP constructed in pursuance to the directions issued by the Supreme Court, the Central Government and the Government of UP, will be against public interest. The SWMP is being constructed far away from the residential area. The petitioner has misled the High Court after selling the land to the private colonizers, who want to further sell the land on a very higher rate. The land around the proposed site is being used for agriculture and is recorded in the revenue records as agricultural land. The suggestion, that some land has been kept reserved for the said purpose at Dasna Jail is not correct. It is not within the areas of Nagar Nigam. The Nagar Nigam is authorised to carry out the schemes only within its notified areas.
    9. The Vice Chairman, GDA found that the Master Plan 2021 was prepared and was enforced from July, 2005. At the time of preparation of Master Plan, objections were invited from all concerned including the residents and the organisations in which the members of the Nagar Nigam also participated and that their objections were considered and decided. In the Master Plan the proposed land was shown to be as residential. At that time if Nagar Nigam has any objection or that if any project of Nagar Nigam was proposed on the site, it should have raised objection, which was not raised by it. The Master Plan has reserved areas for sewer treatment, water purification and solid waste management. The Nagar Nigam is not authorised to act contrary to the Master Plan. The Supreme Court did not give any such directions in Almitra H. Patel's case (supra) to establish SWMP in residential areas whereas in M.C. Mehta vs. Union of India & others the Supreme Court has given directions that the constructions should be made strictly in accordance with the Master Plan. The Nagar Nigam was a member of the Master Plan Committee. The Master Plan was prepared in cooperation with the Nagar Nigam and thus now the Nagar Nigam cannot make constructions contrary to the Master Plan. The land use of the concerned areas is residential. There are 10 areas earmarked in the Master Plan for waste management and that it is not appropriate even on the environmental concerns to have SWMP near residential colonies. The construction of SWMP in village Dundahera should be made only in accordance with the Master Plan.
    10. Shri Anil Kumar Tyagi filed a Second Writ Petition No. 57172 of 2006 in the High Court alleging that inspite of the orders of the Vice Chairman, GDA, the construction of boundary wall is being raised by the Nagar Nigam. The High Court, after perusing the order of the Vice Chairman, GDA and the objections raised by the Nagar Nigam stating that it has already spent about Rs. 70 lacs for construction of SWMP, expressed surprise of developing the land against the Master Plan.

    5. The colonizers / builders knowingly SOLD that land to flat owners.
    6. At the time there was no ABADI nearby only barren land, hence clear fault is of builders.
    7. Even if GNN would have constructed DG long way back , there would be possibility that population would have come nearby it, which is case near most of DGs, hence its not that important matter e.g. Delhi surroundings (both approved/unapproved colonies are next to it)
    8. Builders /GDA intentions to backstab Crossings and builders sold their inventory and next is lying in NE, hence they would not be much in favour, as when inventory was available in CR , they pushed/delayed DG ghost by power of money.

    Points in Favour of CR:
    1. The land pool is absorbed, hence less land available
    2. Strong CROMA

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    • Re : Crossing Republik Latest Updates & Reviews

      Originally posted by sepulchar View Post
      Nice initiative :

      Valid point is why GNN and GDA allowed housing in the area near Dumping Ground purposed and work under process. I strongly feel its Crossings is big Farud done by builders, the got a remote land, surrounded by vilages and Dumping Ground, and sold it to innocent buyers. However GNN has already spent the money towards building purposed dumping ground and dumping ground is modren and will help lacks of residents of Ghaziabad to get rid of watse, hence point is that builders shuld be punished.
      And innocent buyers too huh???????

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      • Re : Crossing Republik Latest Updates & Reviews

        Originally posted by hb_78 View Post
        And innocent buyers too huh???????
        Innocent / common man born only to suffer , as vote bank are not you crossing guys real vote bank is population / slum near hindon.

        Moreover its not that innocency here, as DG is there even people knows prior to buying, but yep builders always said 'sir DG tou chala gaya yaha se' hence poor or less work done before buying house

        crudly speaking 'dekh ke makkhi nigli hai bhai'

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        • Re : Crossing Republik Latest Updates & Reviews

          Originally posted by sepulchar View Post
          Sorry I have not came across such developments, thats why I said builders should be punished.

          Only negative about this court case is, DG planned years ago, purposed site work got started years back. Than builder lobby established Crossings, infact GDA has never treated crossings as part of ghaziabad, they have hopeless attitude towards CR.

          Crossings is big FRAUD done by builders, to innocent buyers and GDA babus who gave approvals did Dalali in this whole Kali Game. DG work was stopped under builders pressure, thus court can presume it a deed where ghaziabad residents were deviod of their right of clean city , as DG pushed by Builders.

          even the HIGH Court has also made decision on the basis of these points .
          I hv made a thread which option is better for CR. Choices GN and Noida or Happy with GDA.

          No one voted there.

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          • Re : Crossing Republik Latest Updates & Reviews

            CR - A nexus between Builders and GDA

            Originally posted by dkppatiala View Post
            Target 5 of the 10 proposed SWMP have not been finsihed because of people agitation.recently SC closed down a operational medical waste disposal plant from south delhi after case by residents.
            I think need to change the point of discussion in court.

            Not a matter which was proposed first (DG / Residential) now the question is why can not shift the DG when it is not started.

            There is a need to CBI investigation for factors "How a Big Residential Colony build up near by DG".

            Nexus between Builders and GDA?

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            • Re : Crossing Republik Latest Updates & Reviews

              CR - The Question need to ask in Parliament

              Originally posted by dkppatiala View Post
              Remaining on Politics..rajnath Singh being our M.P & current BJP President is doing his bid for widening of NH-24. Sorry to say but NHAI has no vision , no technology to take up this important infrastructure improvement.

              Our representative has asked question in parliament (really a big achievement considering the amount of time our parliament actually runs).last week protests were held in Jantar mantar for widening of NH-24..pressure needs to be maintained.

              Ghaziabad didn't even have enough bridges at the railway crossings. This has changed in last 5 years..In fact Ghaziabad looks a much improved city. Nodoubt it is one of the fastest growing city in the world.

              On crime front also it is on the top which needs to be looked into..
              One more question need to ask by Mr Rajnath Singh in parliament for CBI investigation of the factors "How a Big Residential Colony build up near by DG".

              Nexus between Builders and GDA?

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              • Re : Crossing Republik Latest Updates & Reviews

                Originally posted by sepulchar View Post
                The points might come in favour of DG:
                1. The area was earmarked, notified, planned for Dumping Ground.
                2. The area has obtained approvals from State Goverment and Ghaziabad authority.
                3. The area is being developed by GNN for dumping ground
                4. The court case also talks about it:
                The Vice Chairman, GDA considered the representation. The Nagar Nigam submitted in its reply, to the representation that Khasra No. 937 area about 50 bighas in village Dundahera, Tehsil and District Ghaziabad is a 'Banjar land' and is proposed for construction of SWMP as dumping yard. In a Writ Petition No.888 of 1996 (Almitra H. Patel vs. State of UP & others) filed in public interest the Supreme Court had given directions for establishment of Solid Waste Management Sewerage and Drainage Improvement Centre in the areas of Hindan Air Force Station in Ghaziabad City. Under the directions of the Supreme Court, in all the cities of the country, where Air Force Stations are established, 100% financial grants will be provided by the Ministry of Urban Development and Poverty Eradication of the Central Government, for urban waste management and to establish the plants for management of urban waste. The Ghaziabad city was also included in the scheme. The Municipal Solid Waste (Management) Rules 2000 were notified on 24.9.2000 by the Central Forest and Environment Ministry. In pursuance to the directions of the Supreme Court and the notification notifying Municipal Waste (Management) Rules 2000, a plan was prepared by the experts of HUDCO to select a site for disposal of urban waste by scientific means. The preparation of compost plant and land filling is the main part of this scheme. A joint inspection was made by the Deputy Advisor of C.P.H.O. associated with the Ministry of Urban Development and Poverty Eradication of the Central Government along with the experts of HUDCO, representatives of the Hindan Air Force and the Regional Manager of the U.P. Pollution Control Board. They identified the land of about 14 acres in village Dundahera, for construction of SWMP and the land was made available by Nagar Nigam to the UP Jal Nigam on 20.10.2004. A boundary wall was constructed around the land in village Dundahera by the Jal Nigam surrounding Khasra Nos. 030, 941, 937/1, 937/2, 944, 946, 949, 951 and 953.
                8. The Nagar Nigam submitted to the Vice Chairman, GDA that any obstruction in the proposed SWMP constructed in pursuance to the directions issued by the Supreme Court, the Central Government and the Government of UP, will be against public interest. The SWMP is being constructed far away from the residential area. The petitioner has misled the High Court after selling the land to the private colonizers, who want to further sell the land on a very higher rate. The land around the proposed site is being used for agriculture and is recorded in the revenue records as agricultural land. The suggestion, that some land has been kept reserved for the said purpose at Dasna Jail is not correct. It is not within the areas of Nagar Nigam. The Nagar Nigam is authorised to carry out the schemes only within its notified areas.
                9. The Vice Chairman, GDA found that the Master Plan 2021 was prepared and was enforced from July, 2005. At the time of preparation of Master Plan, objections were invited from all concerned including the residents and the organisations in which the members of the Nagar Nigam also participated and that their objections were considered and decided. In the Master Plan the proposed land was shown to be as residential. At that time if Nagar Nigam has any objection or that if any project of Nagar Nigam was proposed on the site, it should have raised objection, which was not raised by it. The Master Plan has reserved areas for sewer treatment, water purification and solid waste management. The Nagar Nigam is not authorised to act contrary to the Master Plan. The Supreme Court did not give any such directions in Almitra H. Patel's case (supra) to establish SWMP in residential areas whereas in M.C. Mehta vs. Union of India & others the Supreme Court has given directions that the constructions should be made strictly in accordance with the Master Plan. The Nagar Nigam was a member of the Master Plan Committee. The Master Plan was prepared in cooperation with the Nagar Nigam and thus now the Nagar Nigam cannot make constructions contrary to the Master Plan. The land use of the concerned areas is residential. There are 10 areas earmarked in the Master Plan for waste management and that it is not appropriate even on the environmental concerns to have SWMP near residential colonies. The construction of SWMP in village Dundahera should be made only in accordance with the Master Plan.
                10. Shri Anil Kumar Tyagi filed a Second Writ Petition No. 57172 of 2006 in the High Court alleging that inspite of the orders of the Vice Chairman, GDA, the construction of boundary wall is being raised by the Nagar Nigam. The High Court, after perusing the order of the Vice Chairman, GDA and the objections raised by the Nagar Nigam stating that it has already spent about Rs. 70 lacs for construction of SWMP, expressed surprise of developing the land against the Master Plan.

                5. The colonizers / builders knowingly SOLD that land to flat owners.
                6. At the time there was no ABADI nearby only barren land, hence clear fault is of builders.
                7. Even if GNN would have constructed DG long way back , there would be possibility that population would have come nearby it, which is case near most of DGs, hence its not that important matter e.g. Delhi surroundings (both approved/unapproved colonies are next to it)
                8. Builders /GDA intentions to backstab Crossings and builders sold their inventory and next is lying in NE, hence they would not be much in favour, as when inventory was available in CR , they pushed/delayed DG ghost by power of money.

                Points in Favour of CR:
                1. The land pool is absorbed, hence less land available
                2. Strong CROMA
                See all you are saying is correct.but if some type of collusion of builders and gnn is proved dg won't come.they cannot punish people for a swmp.

                Helicopter deal is cancelled bcoz corruption is pointed out.crores are lost now.but the deal is gone.if gnn has taken money and delayed dg they have indulged in corruption and cheating the common public.this dg can become a symbol of corruption and cancelled

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                • Re : Crossing Republik Latest Updates & Reviews

                  Originally posted by dkppatiala View Post
                  See all you are saying is correct.but if some type of collusion of builders and gnn is proved dg won't come.they cannot punish people for a swmp.

                  Helicopter deal is cancelled bcoz corruption is pointed out.crores are lost now.but the deal is gone.if gnn has taken money and delayed dg they have indulged in corruption and cheating the common public.this dg can become a symbol of corruption and cancelled
                  Yes I agree, but we cannot compare it with Helicopter Deal, the issue here is also of more than 20Lacs population of city Ghaziabad, for which the same is needed.

                  The issue here is to have a CBI investigation and punish the builders, who made illegal deeds to establish Crossings by a fraud and on barren land, which was of no use earlier and planned for Dumping Ground.

                  This is a clear cut case of ill intentions and Fraud done with Crossing Innocent Buyers.

                  High Court Case Verdict, aslo clearly mentions the need of waste management in Ghaziabad and in larger interest of population they allowed it at the same place. However they put hefty FINES on the builders like ansal and other lobby of builders, which caused delay in the DG. ( i guess 1 cr to 5cr each builder : not sure) So its clear that the land used for DG is being GRABBED by builders and have come up with big BLUNDER of Crossing Republik.

                  My heart goes with innocent buyers of CR , but same point I also Agree most of the buyers in CR was aware of DG at the time of purchase of flat in CR, it was clearly mentioned by GNN, GDA at many times in print media, there were news about DG in local channels, there were rumorus in market about DG, the point is despite of all this if someone ignored it, its a sheer matter of ignorance or 'Kya hota hai sab chalta hai ' types attitude.
                  Last edited February 14 2013, 07:12 AM.

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                  • Re : Crossing Republik Latest Updates & Reviews

                    Originally posted by sepulchar View Post
                    Yes I agree, but we cannot compare it with Helicopter Deal, the issue here is also of more than 20Lacs population of city Ghaziabad, for which the same is needed.

                    The issue here is to have a CBI investigation and punish the builders, who made illegal deeds to establish Crossings by a fraud and on barren land, which was of no use earlier and planned for Dumping Ground.

                    This is a clear cut case of ill intentions and Fraud done with Crossing Innocent Buyers.

                    High Court Case Verdict, aslo clearly mentions the need of waste management in Ghaziabad and in larger interest of population they allowed it at the same place. However they put hefty FINES on the builders like ansal and other lobby of builders, which caused delay in the DG. ( i guess 1 cr to 5cr each builder : not sure) So its clear that the land used for DG is being GRABBED by builders and have come up with big BLUNDER of Crossing Republik.

                    My heart goes with innocent buyers of CR , but same point I also Agree most of the buyers in CR was aware of DG at the time of purchase of flat in CR, it was clearly mentioned by GNN, GDA at many times in print media, there were news about DG in local channels, there were rumorus in market about DG, the point is despite of all this if someone ignored it, its a sheer matter of ignorance or 'Kya hota hai sab chalta hai ' types attitude.
                    At one place you say CR buyers are not innocent & other place u pity the innocent buyers.Make up your mind jass_s.Oh sorry u made up your mind & sold your supertech in loss and are praying & trying hard so that SWMP comes...

                    All the best..

                    Builders have done a decent job...they have not allowed SWMp to come & they are still trying..

                    Nobody wants this SWMP to come..not the builders, not the residents & not even the GNN...bas sab yahi chaahte hain ki naa aaye aur unki taraf koi ungli bhi naa uthaaye & this shall be done by court citing environmental issue & lack of enough space...

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                    • Re : Crossing Republik Latest Updates & Reviews

                      Dear Sepulchar/jass_s ..bachpan se sikhaaya gaya hai ki 2 wrongs never make a right ...even if court assume that it was all builders wrongdoing ..they cannot make another wrong by creating DG against UPPCBs directive. If UPPCB doesnt give NoC (which they should not after the public hearing and thousands of objections), SC mein itni dam nahin ki they can still order for a DG ...forget the 'innocent buyers' and 'utility for 20 lakh gzb' crap ...
                      you had said yourself buddy that 'dekh ke makkhi nahin nigli jaati'..can SC do something like that ??..GNN has itself said in SC that all they have done is contruct a boundary wall for 6 cr and nothing else ...and you know what , GNN would be the happiest party if no DG comes as this area is small and totally unfeasible from DG perspective..and they can show a lot of loss (money they have eaten) if the DG gets stopped ..

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