What would you suggest from a 5 year horizon - a plot in greater noida around pari chowk at around 25k or a plot in tdi kundli at around 20 k in one of the better blocks ?

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  • Dear Sirs,

    In my opinion, G.Noida is what Kundli would like to grow up as (5-7 years).
    It would read like this- "Mai bada hokar G.Noida banna chahta hu"::bab (22):. and thats not a negative remark.G Noida is an achievement for UP.Sometime it surprises me how can UP make a town like G. Noida.

    I would also like to say that , kundli and GNoida are no competitors as both of them represents different stages of evolution of cities.So, technicaly GNoida should be the choice(for a price gap if 5k)

    Regards,
    MTB
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  • sonipat is look like unauthorized colonies of delhi
    third class railway station
    and u can not compare sonipat to unauthorized colonies in delhi
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  • we are talking here about nh1 properties / private builder projects and kundli region where minimum sector roads are of 12mt ( 40 foot ) , well panned greenery , drinking water available 24 hours even yamuna canal water that gos from this region whole delhi drinks that water , each project has rain water harvesting system , solar water heaters , 24 hours power back up , many dowzens of schools are here including , dps , gd goenka , gateway international ,..
    dozens of universities are here , jindal , gate way , education city coming in ..
    people here are very well educated and not gawar and ill mannered ..
    current population is sonipat is 2.5 million ans even main sonipat city looks beautiful the govt sectors there in are well panned bhai google ke camera se dekhkr kuch pata ni chalta do visit the area once !!
    air is clean !!
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  • Originally Posted by sauravsbban
    we are talking here about nh1 properties / private builder projects and kundli region where minimum sector roads are of 12mt ( 40 foot ) , well panned greenery , drinking water available 24 hours even yamuna canal water that gos from this region whole delhi drinks that water , each project has rain water harvesting system , solar water heaters , 24 hours power back up , many dowzens of schools are here including , dps , gd goenka , gateway international ,..
    dozens of universities are here , jindal , gate way , education city coming in ..
    people here are very well educated and not gawar and ill mannered ..
    current population is sonipat is 2.5 million ans even main sonipat city looks beautiful the govt sectors there in are well panned bhai google ke camera se dekhkr kuch pata ni chalta do visit the area once !!
    air is clean !!



    Plz
    Post pics to prove your point. Else I will post to prove you wrong.

    I have lived in sonipat and even after ten years, it has no lifestyle like a city. No malls and multiplex. Even a small place like kurukshetra has mall and multiplex.

    Kundli and gannuar are part of sonipat district. It has nothing except highway Dhabaas.
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  • Sonipat is not NCR. Don't ever forget this while considering investment.
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  • Originally Posted by cookie
    Sonipat is not NCR. Don't ever forget this while considering investment.


    Sir,

    In books (Govt Master Plans) Sonipat is part of NCR.Thats sad but true that lot of towns which can't stand properly have suddenly bragging their NCR rights. Even worst places like Bulandshaher and Baghpat in UP are part of NCR.following is the official link.
    ncrpb.nic.in/document/annual_report03-04.doc

    Regards,
    MTB


    1. INTRODUCTION


    1.1 Evolution of the NCR Planning Board

    The National Capital Region Planning Board was constituted under the National Capital Region Planning Board Act, 1985 (Act No. 2 of 1985) enacted by the Parliament with the concurrence of the Legislatures of the States of Haryana, Rajasthan and Uttar Pradesh.

    1.2 Objectives of the Board

    It has the mandate for preparing a Plan for the development of the National Capital Region and for coordinating and monitoring the implementation of such plan and for evolving harmonized policies for the control of land-uses and development of infrastructure in the National Capital Region so as to avoid any haphazard development of the region.

    1.3 Areas included in the Region

    The National Capital Region comprises an area of 33,578 sq. kms., covering the States of Delhi, Haryana, Rajasthan and Uttar Pradesh as detailed below:-

    i) Delhi
    The whole of NCT-Delhi (1,483 sq. km.)

    ii) Haryana (13,413 sq. km.)
    a) The whole of District of Gurgaon comprising the tehsils of Gurgaon, Nuh, Ferozepur-Jhirka, Pataudi, Punhana and Sohna
    b) The whole of District of Faridabad comprising the tehsils of Ballabgarh, Faridabad, Palwal, Hathin and Hodel;
    c) The whole of District of Rohtak comprising the tehsils of Rohtak and Meham;
    d) The whole of District of Sonipat comprising the tehsils of Sonipat, Gohana, Gannaur and Kharkhoda
    e) The whole of district of Panipat comprising tehsils of Panipat, Samalkha and Israna.
    f) The whole of district of Jhajjar comprising the tehsils of Jhajjar, Bahadurgarh and Beri;
    g) The whole of district of Rewari comprising the tehsils of Rewari, Bawal and Kosli;

    iii) Uttar Pradesh (10,853 sq. kms)

    a) The whole of district of Bulandshahr comprising the Tehsils of Anupshahr, Bulandshahr and Khurja;
    b) The whole of district of Meerut comprising the Tehsils of Meerut, Mawana and Sardhana;
    c) The whole of district of Ghaziabad comprising the tehsils of Ghaziabad, Hapur and Garhmukteshwar;
    d) The whole of district of Gautam Budh Nagar comprising tehsils of Gautam Budh Nagar, Dadri and Jewar;
    e) The whole district of Baghpat comprising tehsils of Baghpat, Baraut and Khekra.

    iii) Rajasthan (7,829 sq. kms.)
    The tehsils of Alwar District, namely, Alwar, Behror, Mandawar, Kishangarh Bas, Tijara, Kota Kasim and Ramgarh.
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  • Originally Posted by sauravsbban
    gnoida ke pass toh khud ka kuch hai hi nhi job tak
    gnoida ko apne dad ( noida expressway ) pr depend hona padta hai ..
    greater noida us bache ki tarah hain jo sajne sawarne mein no one hai pr kisi
    kaam ka nhi ..
    and apke cell mein roaming lagti hogi but mere airtel mein kundli tak ab koi roaming nhi lagti !! :p


    Bilkool sahi kaha aapne.

    But I am unable to understand why so many experts bother to visit GN section and compare their own favourites like NP, Manesar, CR, Indore compared with GN...

    Compare kar na hain to koi better location ke saath karo ... GN jaise jungle ke saath kyun compare kar rahe ho?
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  • Originally Posted by gharondabhai
    Bilkool sahi kaha aapne.

    But I am unable to understand why so many experts bother to visit GN section and compare their own favourites like NP, Manesar, CR, Indore compared with GN...

    Compare kar na hain to koi better location ke saath karo ... GN jaise jungle ke saath kyun compare kar rahe ho?


    lollzzz... G Bhai, they all are too much frustrated. They know very well that what they have got but cannot digest others success.
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  • Thanks for starting a debate between 2 towns.

    All I have to say about Kundli-Sonepat is in this forum:

    https://www.indianrealestateforum.com/forum/city-forums/more-cities-states/kundli-manesar-palwal-real-estate/30370-sonepat-kundli-region-builders-projects-infrastructure-outlook-prospects?t=32336

    I challenge everyone to point out any misleading information of rates/ pictures/ upcoming projects mentioned in this thread.

    And will leave it to the readers to decide.
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  • Here lies your Answer Steel Bhai from Kundli-Sonepat prospective. Let Greater Noida people match it:


    About Kundli/ Sonepat region:

    Kundli is an emerging new destination which comes under district Sonepat and is 15-20 minutes drive from Pitampura/ Rohini and right on National Highway 1. Kundli is approximately 31 kms from Connaught place and 2.5 kms from Delhi border.

    Because of escalating prices in Delhi, people started looking for cheaper alternative options within drivable distance and hence came the need for Greater Noida/ Tronica City/ Dwarka and that of Kundli-Sonepat region.
    Also, because of superimposed efforts of government to make Delhi, an international world class city and to decongest Delhi, Central government and Haryana government showed their generousity in allocating funds to this unheard region.

    Mega crore projects allocated to Kundli-Sonepat belt

    RRTS: 5000 crore monorail project, work likely to start after negotiations with Delhi government regarding allowance of trains inside Delhi. Centre has already allocated funds for this project to decongest Delhi. RRTS to be functional by 2015 if project goes according to plan. As per the original plan, RRTS high speed trains will connect delhi (Kashmere Gate) to Kundli and Panipat with stations at Kundli/ Rai/ Murthal/ Gannaur/ Panipat and distance between Kashmere Gate and Kundli will be covered in 20 minutes.

    KMP expressway: 3000 crores, work in progress, upto 66 % work completed as per official figures. Originally planned for 2009 but hit by multiple delays. KGP expressway is another project which has been approved funding by centre and will resume work in 2013. KMP and KGP will together form the third ring road.

    Rajiv Gandhi Education city: 5000 crore project spanning 5000 acres of land. Government has acquired 2000 acres for phase 1 and has allocated land to 10 universities and reviewing application for others. Plan to have engineering colleges, medical schools, MBA, research centres, genetics, aviation, law schools all under one campus. Work under progress.

    NIFTEM:National Institute of Food Technology Entrepreneurship and Management (NIFTEM) has been set up by Ministry of Food Processing Industries as a Rs. 500 crores project with a sprawling campus of 100 acres located at Kundli, Sonepat. Already in operation.

    Horticulture project: International Horticulture Market Terminal would be set up at a cost of Rs 1,264.67 crore in Sonepat district, expected to be completed by 2015

    Textile park: The Haryana State Industrial and Infrastructural Development Corporation (HSIIDC) is now setting up a textile park in Barhi, Sonipat to generate around Rs 750 crore annual garments business and create 7,500 jobs.

    A multi functional complex is also being developed at Kundli popularly known as Rai-Kundli Multi-functional Complex. It is in this complex that Export Promotion Industrial Park, Food Park, Cold Chain Complex will be developed by HSIIDC

    Logistic park: to be built over 200 acres by TDI, 350 crore project.

    SEZ project: worth 1000 crores by Anantraj and few other companies. Construction of Anantraj Sez is nearly complete.

    Delhi Metro proposed: however I could not see any official link for that.

    Most of the above mentioned projects have been alloted funds by centre or haryana government.

    RAJIV GANDHI EDUCATION CITY: THE MAJOR DRIVER

    Rajiv Gandhi Education city would be the main driving factor in this region for development like IT hubs are for Gurgaon today.This university has been approved 5000 acres and many universities have already been alloted under it.This university can be major boost for driving middle class families out of Delhi if they allow good universities under their belt and can create opportunities for employment for lecturers/ teachers/ human resources/ class IV jobs.

    Some of Prominent Institutes who have allotted land in this Education City are as under :
    Thapar University:62.00 Acres
    Hindu Educational & Charitable Society, Sonepat:07.38 Acres
    Manav Rachna International University:25.00 Acres
    Birla Institute of Management Technology:07.38 Acres
    Fore School of Management:07.38 Acres
    International Foundation for Research & Education :25.00 Acres
    Karnatak Ligyas Educational Society :07.38 Acres
    Lala Nemi Chand Educational Trust:02.41 Acres
    Asian Education Society :03.82 Acres
    Ashoka University: 25 acres
    National Law University: 100 acres

    Nanotechnology, biotechnology, genetics, engineering, medicine, avionics, information technology, artificial intelligence, environmental sciences and geospatial technologies, management and finance, defence research, film and media and law are some of the subjects the city will offer in addition to management courses/ humanities and fine arts. So, far in entire NCR area, we donot have medical colleges, research, genetics, engineering colleges, law schools all in the same campus. Apart from being the centre for higher learning, Rajiv Gandhi Education City will also serve as a laboratory for advanced technologies.This is going to be one of an attempt to have all things at same place. RRTP fast trains (speed 200km/ hr) will have one station at Rajiv Gandhi Education city, so as to attract students from Delhi.

    They are planning to bring in institutions like Oxford and Cambridge, so as to attract international students as well.

    Again, I would emphasise that this is going to be the biggest educational project not only in NCR region but throughtout India. No campus in India occupies area as big as 5000 acre.

    Just to emphasise how big area 5000 area is, here is what I found when I googled Delhi University area in acres:

    North Delhi University campus is spread over 495 acres.
    South Delhi University enjoys over 69 acres campus
    Jawahar Lal Nehru University campus occupies 1000 acres land
    Renowned IIT Delhi campus covers 320 acres area,
    AIIMS has 115 acre campus
    Delhi College of Engineering is sprawled over 164 acres of land.

    In addition, there are rumours of Azadpur Subzi Mandi to be shifted to Narela which is 7 kms from Kundli and 70 acre plot has been alloted for this. Also, DLF and Anantraj SEZ have been built which will become operational in few months-year time and will bring hundreds of jobs.

    Having said all the positives, please do expect timeframe of minimum 5-7 years for this city to develop.

    Brief overview of major projects:

    TDI Kundli: Biggest builder in terms of area. Spread over 1500 acres with concept of integrated township with options to buy plots/ villas/ apartments and floors.

    Advantages:
    Bang on NH-1, 2.5 kms from delhi border and 15 min drive from Pitampura/ rohini.
    Adjacant to Rajiv Gandhi university, 1 km from main gate
    2-2.5 kms from KMP expressway.
    Has TDI mall, which is largest mall in north of delhi.
    Possession has been given to nearly 85% blocks, people have started living there. Roads/ infrastructure all in place.

    Disadvantages:

    High price, Rates range from 25k-60k, those right on National highway are 60k and H/I/J/K blocks are selling for 25-30k.

    Ansals:

    Spread over 330 acre area with beautiful township with option of plots/ villas and apartments, 100% possession granted

    Same location as of TDI Kundli, on NH-1 and even closer to KMP expressway and Rajiv Gandhi Education city.

    Disadvantage: Higher cost, nothing is available for < 35k.

    Jindal Global City:

    Again township concept, spread over 650 acres.
    Options of villas/ plots/ apartments/ cottages.
    Sector road has been proposed which will bring the project to within 2kms of NH.
    Distance from Delhi Border: 10-12 kms, commute time: 15 minutes.
    Available 22-23k.

    Disadvanatges:
    Project is in earlier stage, possessions to be granted in 2-3 years time.

    Express Builders:
    Small project adjacent to Jindal global city, in early stage of development, offering plots at cheapest rate, around 18k.

    Disadvantage: No possession has been offered till date, project in early stage despite launch 5-6 years back.

    Eldeco:
    Small 70 acre project, offering plots/ villas, bang on NH-1, 13 kms from Delhi border, 30 minutes from Pitampura, 15 minutes from delhi border. Within close proximity of Rajiv Gandhi education city upto 5-6 kms. Murthal will be nearest RRTS station, upto 2-3 kms distance. Available in range between 28-30k, possession has been granted to most homes.

    Disadvanatge: Very small community.

    Omaxe/ Parsavnath:

    Possession problems, but available at cheap rates around 12-15k. Lately Omaxe has started offering possessions.
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  • not withstanding the respect i've have for Kundli for the returns it has given so far, i've some concerns.

    1. Investors perspective: There has been a sharp rise in Price and much of it could be attributed to the future infra projects like KMP e-way and monorail/hi-speed train. I fear that what happened in GN doesn't get repeated here. People who burnt their fingers in GN were the people who invested when the proposed international airport had created the hype. It didn't take off and investors got struck. Still GN got F1 and world class YEW but when KMP is going to complete and whats the deadline for hi-speed train.

    2. End user perspective: Well not much can be said as its an individual choice but from Kundli, both the job hubs ,noida and GGN, are far. From GN, MNCs jobs of Noida and GN are easy and GGN some how manageable. But from Kundli, Neither Noida or GGN are manageable as of now.

    My Advice:
    For investors: Go for plots. Price aja anhi ot kal badh hi jayenge.
    End user: Go for something RTM whether villa or flat but i'd recommend a villa. A villa in NCR is unbeatable choice.

    I wish best for Kundli's developement and hope to have Dhaba food their soon
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  • Your concerns are genuine and much appreciated. Sharp rise in Kundli has not been attributed to incoming projects but due to development by the developers. Families have started living in apartments and have started constructed plots.

    KMP is sure shot coming as it is a national project though has been hit by multiple hurdles. Already 2500 crores have been spent on the project and it will form a third ring road. Haryana has high hopes for it and has based multiple theme cities around it.

    Monorail is very much on and Sonepat-Panipat is one of the first to have been alloted in NCR region. Lets assume, like airport it is scrapped, even then connectivity of this region is great. It is bang on National highway, will have KMP completed in say 3 years.

    And if Greater Noida has got a seasonal Formula racing track, Kundli has been blessed with India's largest education hub in terms of area. On coming June 10th, CM Hooda is inaugurating 10 institutions. 2000 Acres out of 5000 have been already acquired by the government.
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  • Originally Posted by AJAY33
    Your concerns are genuine and much appreciated. Sharp rise in Kundli has not been attributed to incoming projects but due to development by the developers. Families have started living in apartments and have started constructed plots.

    KMP is sure shot coming as it is a national project though has been hit by multiple hurdles. Already 2500 crores have been spent on the project and it will form a third ring road. Haryana has high hopes for it and has based multiple theme cities around it.

    Monorail is very much on and Sonepat-Panipat is one of the first to have been alloted in NCR region. Lets assume, like airport it is scrapped, even then connectivity of this region is great. It is bang on National highway, will have KMP completed in say 3 years.

    And if Greater Noida has got a seasonal Formula racing track, Kundli has been blessed with India's largest education hub in terms of area. On coming June 10th, CM Hooda is inaugurating 10 institutions. 2000 Acres out of 5000 have been already acquired by the government.


    Hi
    Greetings

    Kundli has a wonderful prospect with all the govt plans..
    I just wanted to know from your knowledge which district in haryana on the NH1 do we have plot rates below 25-30K??
    I am actively on the look out for such locations.

    Cheers
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  • Please go through these details, I have mentioned projects name/ location and rates here. Have highlighted projects on NH-1 in bold.

    Brief overview of major projects:

    TDI Kundli: Biggest builder in terms of area. Spread over 1500 acres with concept of integrated township with options to buy plots/ villas/ apartments and floors.

    Advantages:
    Bang on NH-1, 2.5 kms from delhi border and 15 min drive from Pitampura/ rohini.
    Adjacant to Rajiv Gandhi university, 1 km from main gate
    2-2.5 kms from KMP expressway.
    Has TDI mall, which is largest mall in north of delhi.
    Possession has been given to nearly 85% blocks, people have started living there. Roads/ infrastructure all in place.

    Disadvantages:

    High price, Rates range from 25k-60k, those right on National highway are 60k and H/I/J/K blocks are selling for 25-30k.

    Ansals:

    Spread over 330 acre area with beautiful township with option of plots/ villas and apartments, 100% possession granted

    Same location as of TDI Kundli, on NH-1 and even closer to KMP expressway and Rajiv Gandhi Education city.

    Disadvantage: Higher cost, nothing is available for < 35k.

    Jindal Global City:

    Again township concept, spread over 650 acres.
    Options of villas/ plots/ apartments/ cottages.
    Sector road has been proposed which will bring the project to within 2kms of NH.
    Distance from Delhi Border: 10-12 kms, commute time: 15 minutes.
    Available 22-23k.

    Disadvanatges:
    Project is in earlier stage, possessions to be granted in 2-3 years time.

    Express Builders:
    Small project adjacent to Jindal global city, in early stage of development, offering plots at cheapest rate, around 18k.

    Disadvantage: No possession has been offered till date, project in early stage despite launch 5-6 years back.

    Eldeco:
    Small 70 acre project, offering plots/ villas, bang on NH-1, 13 kms from Delhi border, 30 minutes from Pitampura, 15 minutes from delhi border. Within close proximity of Rajiv Gandhi education city upto 5-6 kms. Murthal will be nearest RRTS station, upto 2-3 kms distance. Available in range between 28-30k, possession has been granted to most homes.

    Disadvanatge: Very small community.

    Omaxe/ Parsavnath:

    Omaxe on National Highway. Possession problems, but available at cheap rates around 12-15k. Lately Omaxe has started offering possessions.
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