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- Originally Posted by vsoniaI agree and apolgies of name calling in my last post .
Additionally develish opinion and laughing on situations of impacted invesntors should alsi be stopped happened in earlier post by some of non impacted parties.
I agree with you Sonia.
But there are people with duplicate IDs or same interest. So they have to support each other...
Not looking at what they say/do, but calling other's thoughts cheap.CommentQuote0Flag
- Any agreement between Authority & Farmers is a good news for Noida Extension. How few persons are finding negative things into it, it is like finding Salt in Honey.CommentQuote0Flag
- nice to see some good progress on this front. this should make a lot of n-ex buyers feel better. It is no secret that the agreement was always on the cards; even farmers dont want land, they've always wanted money. farming isnt a very profitable business in india. only thing to watch out for now is the terms of the agreement and implications on pricing
vkumar - you wouldnt have said this had you read some of his comments on other threads where he termed some of the n-ex developments as great and happy news and mocked at a lot of n-ex buyers. I do agree with you though, when you say name calling isnt good.
Lets wait for some news on pricing implications for apartments in noida ex.CommentQuote0Flag
- Bhai, doodh ka jala chanch bhi fook fook key peeta hain.
While news is really heartning for us but at the same time we should not jump to conlusion so early and start celebrating. Let's keep our joy contained till some official, authenticatic announcement is made by all the concerned parties.
Look at the news published on Times of India's front page stating that Noida Authority and farmers reach settlement and home buyers can take sigh of relief.
But now we are hearing the news that other farmers have formed a new association under new name along with some congress leader. Now, they are threatning to go to court. This is election time and congress and other parties will do everything possible to ensure that issue is not settled.
We just need to keep our fingers crossed. Let the time come when we can safely and surely say that NE is safe now and at that time we will throw a grand party to celebrate and express our joy. :)
Originally Posted by saurabh2011Any agreement between Authority & Farmers is a good news for Noida Extension. How few persons are finding negative things into it, it is like finding Salt in Honey.CommentQuote1Flag
- As Gandhi-nehru gen out of india-agreement may reachOriginally Posted by preet sidhubit relief but still waiting for monsoon shower :)
I hope & pray God to setlle Noida extension issue. As the Black Howk Nehru-Gandhi family out of India, there may be big positive news coming. There are some one who is not sorry with own wound but sorry with happyness of others.
Those people dont understand about sacrifice we have done to pay installmnt for dream home.
Let us pray for good news.CommentQuote0Flag
- gud news lastlyCommentQuote0Flag
- They said Umrica was out of recession ... we are still unclear.
Lets not be too euphoric, this is political drama and expiry date of this drama is ONLY UP ELECTION.
Until then there will be kahani mein naya twist ... on each episode. Tab na aap serial dekhoge!!CommentQuote0Flag
- Couple of minutes back, the story has changed again. Aaj tak was flashing a news about Patwari farmers alleging that the decision has been forced to them & they are not happy with it. So hold your parties & scratch your head for some more time...CommentQuote0Flag
- Hey guys I sold part of my investments in Faridabad - and I am not a dealer old guys know this for sure.
There is a very thin line between good and bad news - good for one will be bad for another -
Being euphoric on unconfirmed news is like betting on penny stock in the markets - I am against it.
I would be happy if noida issue gets resolved in an honourable way because it will set an example for other areas also.
While I am still bearish on Noida and neutral on Faridabad for last couple of months (I have not posted about gr faridabad for last couple of months) I am bullish on north delhi because I know that no matter what Delhi will always remain the 1st destination for everyone.
- Nice thoughts Rohit, I have properties in North Delhi. Past few months have seen massive appreciation here. With metro being extended to Badli, expect more appreciation in Sector 18 Rohini, etc.
As for Noida, the worst is definitely over. Things will calm down till Dussehra.CommentQuote0Flag
- if there is such negotiation between n.a and farmers itz a positive step while allegations are hot cake for any tom, dick and harry who wanna open there innings in politics with bang,the authority will keep caution with there proceedings.
e media hyped the situation to hell. they want rating for mahapanchayat show
with these so called kisan ka beta aapka neta ..mai dharti maa ka beta .. aapko haq dilaunga ..rs.5000 sq.mt ka rate dilaunga..taliyaaa
nxt mr. kisan scorpio rider in khadi...mai rs. 7000 per sq.mt ka rate dilunga...taliyan aur seetiyan...
.n story goes on with rs.11000/ sq.mt with 25% kisan quota n 10% developed plots...
.where is the buyer sitting with b.p .CommentQuote0Flag
- Negotiations between Greater Noida Industrial Development Authority (GNIDA) and farmers of four villages here over the land acquisition controversy failed to reach a conclusion with villagers demanding that all the points agreed to be included in a written agreement.
While GNIDA officials and the farmers had reached a verbal agreement late last night, a dispute arose between them today over including all the points of assent in a written document.
Apparently, GNIDA does not want to put the amount to be paid by builders on a written legal document.
"Our talks failed as the Authority was not putting all the agreed demands in the written document," said Resh Pal Yadav, pradhan of Patwari village.
The talks, initiated by Uttar Pradesh Minister Jaiveer Singh and Gautam Budha Nagar MP Surinder Singh Nagar, were held between GNIDA officials and pradhans and other representatives from Patwari, Bisrakh, Haibatpur and Itedha villages.
"We want to negotiate and settle the issue as we are also concerned about investors' interests. But the authority seems to be fooling us and trying to get our signatures on unapproved documents," a farmer present at the talks said. However, GNIDA officials said "some progress" had been made during the talks with the farmers.
They said the Authority now knows the terms on which the farmers have given their approval but demand for a written document was the only hitch. Meanwhile, in Noida, GNIDA Chairman Balvinder Kumar held a meeting with farmers from Gejha and assured them development.
The farmers demanded five per cent land on the developed plots.
However, the Chairman told them that the villages which were acquired between 1976 to 1997 cannot be given the benefit of five per cent developed land as this facility was applicable only for acquisitions made from 1997 onward.
At Badalpur, farmers held a panchayat and decided to move court. They claimed that while their land was acquired for development of industries and parks, a helipad was built on it.
Talks between farmers, Greater Noida Authority fail - PTI -CommentQuote0Flag
- ग्रेनो के किसान भी चाहते हैं आवासीय भूखंड
नोएडा की तर्ज पर ग्रेटर नोएडा के किसान भी आवासीय योजनाओं में भूखंड चाहते हैं। किसानों का कहना है कि बिल्डर योजना के तहत प्राधिकरण ने गत आठ वर्षो में जितनी जमीन आवंटित की है, उसका 17.5 प्रतिशत क्षेत्रफल निकालकर किसानों को आवंटित किया जाए। छह प्रतिशत भूखंड आवंटन में भी तेजी लाने की भी मांग की गई है।
ग्रेटर नोएडा प्राधिकरण किसानों को उनकी अर्जित भूमि के कुल क्षेत्रफल का छह प्रतिशत हिस्सा विकसित कर वापस देता है। साथ ही प्राधिकरण की आवासीय योजनाओं में किसानों को 17.5 प्रतिशत आरक्षण मिलता है। बिसरख गांव के प्रधान अजय भाटी, तुस्याना के पूर्व प्रधान रवि भाटी, क्षेत्र पंचायत सदस्य राम निवास भाटी, सैनी के पवन शर्मा व खोदना खुर्द गांव के प्रधान राजेंद्र नागर ने कहा कि प्राधिकरण ने सेक्टर दो आवासीय योजना के बाद व्यक्तिगत भूखंडों की योजना नहीं निकाली। इससे किसान अपने कोटे से वंचित रह गए। प्राधिकरण ने सारी जमीन बिल्डरों को बेच दी। व्यक्तिगत भूखंडों की योजना आती तो किसानों को उसमें 17.5 प्रतिशत कोटे का लाभ मिलता। ग्रेटर नोएडा प्राधिकरण बोर्ड ने वर्ष 2006 में किसानों के लिए विशेष आवासीय योजना लाकर उन्हें भूखंड आवंटित करने का फैसला किया था। वर्ष 2004 से 06 तक प्राधिकरण द्वारा बिल्डरों को आवंटित जमीन का 17.5 प्रतिशत हिस्सा 48 हेक्टेयर बैठता था। इस पर योजना निकलनी थी, लेकिन प्राधिकरण ने इसे ठंडे बस्ते में डाल दिया। प्राधिकरण ने नोएडा एक्सटेंशन में करीब 25 हजार हेक्टेयर भूमि बिल्डर योजना में आवंटित की है, इसका 17.5 प्रतिशत हिस्सा करीब पौने चार सौ हेक्टेयर बैठता है। इतने क्षेत्रफल पर किसानों को भूखंड आवंटित किए जाए। किसानों ने सीईओ रमा रमन को पत्र लिखकर मांग पूरी करने का आग्रह किया है।
- Successive Cong govts behind land acquisition mess in UP?
There is a familiar ring of history around the ongoing mess of land acquisition in western Uttar Pradesh. Colluding politicians, facilitating bureaucracy and greedy developers - the dramatis personae have not changed, nor has the narrative of acquisition. Of course, there was no Noida or its various offshoots then, and the area under focus was Ghaziabad. There was another difference. There was Charan Singh, the tallest among the peasant leaders, acting as the sole spokesperson against the acquisition policy designed by successive Congress governments in UP.
The first volume of Paul R Brass's brilliant biography of Charan Singh and Congress politics in UP from 1937 to 1961, written after a rare access to private papers of the late leader, can be a lesson in history for Congress scion Rahul Gandhi, who is at the forefront against Mayawati's land acquisition policy, to understand that his party is the fountainhead of flawed land acquisition policies. The book chronicles the fight around land, the distress it caused to peasants and how compensation was always contentious. What comes across is Charan Singh's relentless fight with UP's political system and bureaucracy that was seen short-changing the peasants in the name of setting up industry and housing for urban people. Brass calls it a "confrontation between rural and urban economic interests".
What would be of contemporary relevance is Singh's letter in 1964 to Chaturbhuj Sharma, then minister for local self-government in UP, after the decision to acquire 1,023 acres of land in eight villages of Ghaziabad tehsil for housing purpose. "Both the DM and the secretary do not realize what it means to the peasantry to be deprived of their land and thrown to the streets. We must think a thousand times before deciding upon acquisition by government of so large an arable area as 1,000 acres and reduction of thousands of farmers to the status of landless farmers merely for the sake of providing residential accommodation, ostensibly for the urban rich. One can understand government acquisition of land only when demonstrable public interest is involved and there is no other way out," he wrote. He had already rubbished the 1961 Ghaziabad Master Plan as "very sinister" and the handiwork of "private developers", who he called "exploiters".
Charan Singh, though, not opposed to industrialization asked why "the capitalist" should not be required to "pay the actual market price of an agricultural land". He fought mainly on issues of compensation and exploitation of peasants by acquiring land in the name of public good. Also, important to him was interest of "poor cultivators". Exposing the irony of the Land Acquisition Act, Singh also gave one particular instance when acquisition for beneficial purpose of villagers was proving to be a protracted, almost impossible exercise.
In 1950, an angry Singh wrote to the then UP chief minister G B Pant against acquisition of 26 bighas of land in the name of opening an English Middle School for which Rs 135 was paid. "Can anybody imagine that a school with less than 150 students, who do not have to reside in a hostel, could possibly require 26 bighas and 17 biswa pucca land. And yet honourable premier (reference to CM) would be surprised that acquisition was ordered by the district authorities and the villagers were kept ignorant of the proceedings till they are almost complete," Singh wrote to Pant.
In another case in Ghaziabad, Singh pointed out, how 100,000 square yards was acquired for a ceramics factory, whereas, "perhaps, half the area or even less would have done".
In 1955, came another case in which the district magistrate of Ghaziabad awarded more than 87,000 square yards to a mill owner, who already had 68 bighas of land in 1944. Singh pointed out that the factory already had 30 acres of land of which it required only five acres.
- lots of twists n turns in the air..irony is that every hour the situation changes..y'day it was a bit ray of sunshine from dark clouds but now again it's back to the same uncertainity...god knows whts gonna come out from this dirty political game....CommentQuote0Flag