पतवाड़ी के किसानों का लिखित समझौता
जागरण संवाददाता, ग्रेटर नोएडा किसानों के साथ समझौते की दिशा में ग्रेटर नोएडा प्राधिकरण को बृहस्पतिवार को बड़ी सफलता हासिल हुई। पतवाड़ी गांव के किसानों के साथ प्राधिकरण का समझौता हो गया। इससे बिल्डरों व निवेशकों को बहुत बड़ी राहत मिली है। समझौता भी किसानों के लिए फायदेमंद रहा। उन्हें अब 550 रुपये प्रति वर्गमीटर अतिरिक्त मुआवजा देने पर सहमति बन गई है। साथ ही आबादी व बैकलीज की शर्तो को हटा लिया गया है। हालांकि नोएडा के सेक्टर-62 में गुरुवार को देर रात तक अन्य मुद्दों पर प्राधिकरण व किसानों के बीच बातचीत जारी थी। इलाहाबाद हाईकोर्ट ने 19 जुलाई को पतवाड़ी गांव की 589 हेक्टयेर जमीन का अधिग्रहण रद कर दिया था। अधिग्रहण रद होने से सात बिल्डरों के प्रोजेक्ट प्रभावित हुई हुए थे। 26 हजार निवेशकों के फ्लैट का सपना भी टूट गया था। प्राधिकरण के ढाई हजार भूखंड़ों, चार सौ निर्मित मकानों व दो इंजीनियरिंग कॉलेज की योजना भी अधर में लटक गई थी। 26 जुलाई को हाईकोर्ट ने नोएडा एक्सटेंशन के अन्य गांवों की सुनवाई के दौरान प्राधिकरण, बिल्डर व किसानों को 12 अगस्त तक आपस में समझौते करने का सुझाव दिया था। हाईकोर्ट के सुझाव पर प्राधिकरण ने किसानों से समझौते के लिए वार्ता की पहल शुरू की। 27 जुलाई को प्राधिकरण के सीईओ रमा रमन ने सबसे पहले पतवाड़ी गांव के प्रधान को पत्र भेज कर वार्ता करने के लिए आमंत्रित किया। दूसरे दिन ग्राम प्रधान रेशपाल यादव ने प्राधिकरण कार्यालय पहुंच कर सीईओ से बातचीत कर उनका रुख जानने का प्रयास किया था। 30 जुलाई को सीईओ ने गांव पतवाड़ी जाकर किसानों से सामूहिक रूप में बात की। इस दौरान मुआवजा वृद्धि को छोड़कर किसानों के साथ अन्य मांगों पर प्राधिकरण ने सकारात्मक रुख दिखाया। मुआवजा बढ़ोतरी पर बातचीत करने के लिए किसानों को आपस में कमेटी गठित कर वार्ता का प्रस्ताव सीईओ दे आए थे। इसके बाद किसानों के साथ गुरुवार को नोएडा के सेक्टर-62 में बैठक बुलाई गई। इसमें प्राधिकरण के सीईओ रमा रमन, ग्रामीण अभियंत्रण मंत्री जयवीर ठाकुर, सांसद सुरेंद्र सिंह नागर व जिलाधिकारी के साथ किसानों की वार्ता शुरू हुई। आठ घंटे तक वार्ता चलने के बाद किसान समझौते के लिए तैयार हो गए। सूत्रों के अनुसार पतवाड़ी गांव के किसानों को मिले 850 रुपये प्रति वर्गमीटर के अलावा 550 रुपये प्रति वर्गमीटर और देने पर सहमति बन गई है। देर रात तक बैठक जारी थी। अभी इसकी अधिकारिक घोषणा नहीं की गई है। हालांकि गांव के कुछ किसानों ने वार्ता की पुष्टि की है। इससे पूर्व किसानों की आबादी को पूरी तरह से अधिग्रहण मुक्त रखा जाएगा। बैकलीज की शर्ते हटा ली जाएगी। पतवाड़ी गांव का समझौता होने पर प्राधिकरण को नोएडा एक्सटेंशन के अन्य गांवों में किसानों के साथ समझौता करने की राह आसान हो गई है। नोएडा एक्सटेंशन विवाद ने रोके खरीददार : नोएडा एक्सटेंशन विवाद ने समूचे ग्रेटर नोएडा एवं यमुना एक्सप्रेस वे प्राधिकरण क्षेत्र में संपत्तियों की खरीद-फरोख्त पर ब्रेक लगा दिया है। दोनों जगह ढूंढे से भी खरीददार नहीं मिल रहे हैं। कुछ समय पहले तक जो लोग शहर में अपना आशियाना बनाने के लिए आतुर थे, वे अब यहां संपत्ति खरीदने से हिचकिचा रहे हंै। पिछले बीस दिनों में भूखंड व मकानों की गिनी-चुनी रजिस्ट्री हुई हैं। सिर्फ गांवों में कृषि व आबादी भूमि की रजिस्ट्री हो रही है। इससे प्रदेश सरकार को राजस्व की भी हानि उठानी पड़ रही है
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  • Hi All,

    I am looking for flat to purchase / Book.Flat size should around 1100 Sqf. could you please help me to tell what is the current rate in Greater Noida and which society are good .

    my budget is between 40 to 50 Lk. ready to wait for 1 to 2 for possession.

    BR
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  • Originally Posted by inversterJi
    Hi All,

    I am looking for flat to purchase / Book.Flat size should around 1100 Sqf. could you please help me to tell what is the current rate in Greater Noida and which society are good .

    my budget is between 40 to 50 Lk. ready to wait for 1 to 2 for possession.

    BR

    Many of mine friends booked @3300/ AI for floors below 7th floor.
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  • Originally Posted by Londonbhai
    Many of mine friends booked @3300/ AI for floors below 7th floor.


    sir ji in which builder, society and location ??
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  • I booked in Nirala estate at 3159 AI+ Parking on 15 floor.
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  • Originally Posted by Nkumar2
    I booked in Nirala estate at 3159 AI+ Parking on 15 floor.


    When any one of you say the word "all inclusive"

    Do you count all of following:
    PLC,
    Park facing,
    Lease rent,
    Covered Car parking,
    Electric meter,
    Power BKP (B2),
    IFMS,
    Service tax

    ??
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  • Originally Posted by don karnage
    in white or black?

    aur yeh kya bol rahe ho, 2700 ka rate :bab (59):



    haan bhai jab 90000 + flats deliever hone hoon another 2-3 years main NE main toh yahi rate hai...

    ab woh aapke upper hai ki aap 2700 main lo ya 7200 main
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  • Originally Posted by Johny123
    haan bhai jab 90000 + flats deliever hone hoon another 2-3 years main NE main toh yahi rate hai...

    ab woh aapke upper hai ki aap 2700 main lo ya 7200 main


    This is like a steal. Mahagun, stellar and Gaur are screwed if ppl start to exit at such lower levels!

    but jhonny bhai, u expect all 90K to be delivered? I feel few 1000 flats will never see completion!
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  • Originally Posted by Johny123
    haan bhai jab 90000 + flats deliever hone hoon another 2-3 years main NE main toh yahi rate hai...

    ab woh aapke upper hai ki aap 2700 main lo ya 7200 main


    What do you say about the term all inclusive ?

    Please share you views on it.
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  • Originally Posted by sandeepkh
    When any one of you say the word "all inclusive"

    Do you count all of following:
    PLC,
    Park facing,
    Lease rent,
    Covered Car parking,
    Electric meter,
    Power BKP (B2),
    IFMS,
    Service tax

    ??


    For me it is "Floor PLC+Facing PLC+Lease+Power Back up"
    Parking I already mentioned as separate. Rest were not included as are government charges.
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  • Originally Posted by inversterJi
    sir ji in which builder, society and location ??

    1.5 Kms from Gaur roundabout, Tech Zone, It is Elegant Splendour
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  • Originally Posted by dolphin14
    In Real Estate all builders are alike (suck the blood of middle class buyers), their ways of doing this may be different but at the end of the day all are same.

    GAUR Sons tried to maintain their reputation as most ethical company and during this Noida Extension crisis they tried to say that we are not charging anything extra from anyone, no cancellations.:bab (5):

    But now they have also started finding ways of unethical charges and means of making extra money with clear rider that if not interested take your money back with interest.

    I had booked flat with them during early 2010, possession was expected during 2012 due to entire kiosk it got delayed. They took undertaking from all flat aspirants that GAUR may purchase additional FAR from Greater Noida Authority and happily saying we will not charge additional amount due to this delay and other losses during zero priod e.g. salaries paid to their employees, amount blocked in there affected projects etc.

    Now they have come up saying that due to certain changes in drawings Super Area of my flat is getting increased (however carpet are is not increasing even by 1 inch) and i need to pay more than 4 lakhs extra.

    I am suffering on both the ends paying EMI as well as rent, no relaxation on interest from any builder in entire region in Noida extension, it clearly means that there is no right of buyers all rights are reserved with builders only.

    Is this confirmed? No further posts means this news is not genuine or people have taken this increase as routine increase..
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  • Originally Posted by Johny123
    wow... mujhe toh 2500 all inclusive ke calls aa rahe hain :(:(


    Johny Bhai... These may be offers to trap owners desperate to sell...

    Resale rates are not determined out of the blue moon... There is a pattern...
    Differences between Fresh Booking and Resale:
    1. Transfer Charges-In Mywoods its 4% (atleast as per my Agreement), i.e., around Rs. 160 even at current quoted price of Rs. 4000.
    2. Brokers's Commission-1% of Transaction value, i.e., around Rs. 30 per sq. ft.
    3. White Value: Assuming someone decides to reimburse the tax on capital gain to seller. Bought at 1700, selling at, say, 3000, Capital Gain 1300, Tax (on an average 20%) 260 per sq. ft.. If buyer agrees to reimburse the tax on capital gain to seller, he can easily have an all white deal, isn't it?
    4. Notional value of direct booking vs resale: Say Rs. 100

    Combined difference of all 4 above points = 160 + 30 + 260 + 100 = 550

    Current BSP in Mywoods is around 3500. So resale value would be around Rs. 2900 BSP.

    Needless to say above is if there are takers for the Project. Being one of the better Projects in NE, i expect takers in Mywoods...
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  • Originally Posted by CA Rajeev
    Johny Bhai... These may be offers to trap owners desperate to sell...

    Resale rates are not determined out of the blue moon... There is a pattern...
    Differences between Fresh Booking and Resale:
    1. Transfer Charges-In Mywoods its 4% (atleast as per my Agreement), i.e., around Rs. 160 even at current quoted price of Rs. 4000.
    2. Brokers's Commission-1% of Transaction value, i.e., around Rs. 30 per sq. ft.
    3. White Value: Assuming someone decides to reimburse the tax on capital gain to seller. Bought at 1700, selling at, say, 3000, Capital Gain 1300, Tax (on an average 20%) 260 per sq. ft.. If buyer agrees to reimburse the tax on capital gain to seller, he can easily have an all white deal, isn't it?
    4. Notional value of direct booking vs resale: Say Rs. 100

    Combined difference of all 4 above points = 160 + 30 + 260 + 100 = 550

    Current BSP in Mywoods is around 3500. So resale value would be around Rs. 2900 BSP.

    Needless to say above is if there are takers for the Project. Being one of the better Projects in NE, i expect takers in Mywoods...


    Just to give u a live example, Jaypee Kosmos Fresh Rate for Cancellation Units is 4500 BSP.
    Rates in Resale is around Rs. 4100.
    Going by abovementioned parameters:
    1. Transfer Charges- Rs. 50.
    2. Brokers's Commission-1% of Transaction value, i.e., around Rs. 40 per sq. ft.
    3. White Value: Bought at 2800, selling at, say, 4100, Capital Gain 1300, Tax (on an average 20%, i.e., 260 per sq. ft.).
    4. Notional value of direct booking vs resale: Say Rs. 100
    Difference in Rates = 50 + 40 + 260 + 100 = 460

    Resale Rate = 4500-460 = 4040
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  • Originally Posted by CA Rajeev
    Johny Bhai... These may be offers to trap owners desperate to sell...

    Resale rates are not determined out of the blue moon... There is a pattern...
    Differences between Fresh Booking and Resale:
    1. Transfer Charges-In Mywoods its 4% (atleast as per my Agreement), i.e., around Rs. 160 even at current quoted price of Rs. 4000.
    2. Brokers's Commission-1% of Transaction value, i.e., around Rs. 30 per sq. ft.
    3. White Value: Assuming someone decides to reimburse the tax on capital gain to seller. Bought at 1700, selling at, say, 3000, Capital Gain 1300, Tax (on an average 20%) 260 per sq. ft.. If buyer agrees to reimburse the tax on capital gain to seller, he can easily have an all white deal, isn't it?
    4. Notional value of direct booking vs resale: Say Rs. 100

    Combined difference of all 4 above points = 160 + 30 + 260 + 100 = 550

    Current BSP in Mywoods is around 3500. So resale value would be around Rs. 2900 BSP.

    Needless to say above is if there are takers for the Project. Being one of the better Projects in NE, i expect takers in Mywoods...


    I agree to your logic in general. But the BSP in Mahagun is 4000 in flexi plan and 4350 in no-pre-emi plan (only these 2 plans today). Assuming BSP of 3800 (net of assumed 4% discount), your logic breaks..or am I getting something wrong..
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  • Originally Posted by vkrealty
    I agree to your logic in general. But the BSP in Mahagun is 4000 in flexi plan and 4350 in no-pre-emi plan (only these 2 plans today). Assuming BSP of 3800 (net of assumed 4% discount), your logic breaks..or am I getting something wrong..


    Dear vkrealty,

    1. Quoted rates are what u mentioned but Builder offers some discount on listed price and then u get booking discount. Rates practically would be around Rs. 3500 bsp. M not sure though.

    2. Even if the rates are otherwise, say 3800, there is no question of breaking of logic. I have not mentioned any actual figure for resale. All i have said is that the factors listed by me are the causes of difference in Builder price and resale price. IF BUILDER ACTUAL RATE IS XXX, the resale price should be determined accordingly by this logic.
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