Wanted to get opinion on how is Mahindra Aura II compared to other Dwarka side projects like Ramaprastha, Indiabulls, Spire, Tashee and Raheja.
With expected launch price of 3000/sq ft, what are the long and short term prospects both as investment and end use?
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  • join all allottes to fight cheating by mahindra

    dear allottees of AURA sector 110 A

    send PM and join as a group to fight this so called clean builder Mahindra Aura
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  • At the bare threshold the proposal to add new flats in the existing project is objected to. Your good office may kindly noted that we the apartment owners are impacted by this decision which violates laws of environment, consumer protection, competition and contract act. Any attempt on part of builder and DTCP to grant permission of additional flats shall be illegal and bad in law.
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  • In fact, such an act of granting permission of additional dwelling units shall be amounting to criminal culpability.
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  • Hi
    Greetings

    Can some one share a draft of complaint that you intend to file? What are the objections?

    Mind you this has to reach the DTP within 30 days of publication of the article. More the number of objections, the better it would be for the buyers.

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  • Is the office of Senior Town planner open on Saturday ?
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  • Dear Allotees of Phase 4 of Aura - Pls review this draft complaint and suggest if any changes/additions are required. Please add if I may have missed any point.

    To,
    Senior Town Planner
    Gurgaon.

    Subject: Objection to revision in building plans of Tower H/I/J/K of group housing society “Aura”, Sector110A, Gurgaon, proposed by Mahindra Lifespace Developer Ltd

    Dear Sir,
    This is in reference to public notice published by Mahindra Lifespace Developer Ltd. Dated 16.05.2013 in Indian Express and Letter from Mahindra Lifespace Developer Ltd. Dated 28.05.2013 (Ref # XXXXXXXX) for approval of revised building plans falling in group housing scheme –“Aura” in sector 110A, Gurgaon. We have been allotted flat XXXXXXXX in Tower H/I/J/K of this group housing scheme – “Aura” for which revision in building plans has been applied by Mahindra Lifespace Developer Ltd. ( Hereafter referred as “builder” in this letter) to Town and country planning department, Haryana.
    We object to proposed revision in building plans on points mentioned below:
    1. At the time of signing the ‘Apartment buyer agreement’ with builder, Tower H/I/J/K was mentioned as G+13 (13 storey/floors) building. Construction of this tower is already underway and builder has constructed this tower till 12 th floor. Builder has not confirmed in the letter sent to us, if the foundation for this tower can support a load for proposed 18 floors? We request the following information from builder in this respect:
    • Earlier approved design for Tower H/I/J/K (when it was G+13)
    • Revised design for Tower H/I/J/K (with proposed 18 floors) submitted to Town and country planning department, Haryana.

    We will than get this design verified from an independent accredited structural engineer to make sure this tower can bear the load for proposed 18 floors as per established standards. These apprehensions have been raised since the builder has proposed to increase the number of floors midway during the construction and not before starting the construction of tower.

    2. As mentioned in point 1 above, at the time of signing the ‘Apartment buyer agreement’ with builder, Tower H/I/J/K was mentioned as G+13 (13 storey/floors) building. We had opted for ‘construction linked plan’ wherein payment of installments was linked to completion of floors within tower. This plan was designed considering total of 13 floors in the tower and as such we were required to pay installments after completion of 3 floors. The plan offered by builder is mentioned below:
    On applicatiOn for booking
    within 60 days of booking 20% of Total Sale consideration less booking amount
    On completion of Ground Floor 10% of Total sale consideration
    On completion of 3rd floor 5% of Total sale consideration
    On completion of 6th floor 10% of Total sale consideration
    On completion of 9th floor 5% of Total sale consideration
    On completion of 12th Floor 10% of Total sale consideration
    On completion of super structure 10% of Total sale consideration
    On starting of external paint 5% of Total sale consideration
    On completion of flooring 10% of Total sale consideration
    On completion of services 10% of Total Consideration
    At the time of posession 5% of Total Consideration +
    ECC,IBMS,Registration

    Had this tower been 18 floors, we would have been required to pay installments to builder after completion of 4 floors and not 3 floors as we have to do currently.
    As such, we would have been required to pay 50% of total sale consideration and not 60% as we had to pay currently.

    In this respect our objections are:
    • Builder has not informed any revision in the construction linked plan in the letter sent to us, even though this plan is directly linked to total number of floors in tower.

    • We demand builder to return 10% of Total sale consideration along with interest (15% per annum) which they have demanded in excess from us considering total number of floors as 18 in Tower H/I/J/K.

    3. In the Apartment buyer agreement, builder had committed to deliver the project within a time span of 32 months, beyond which builder will pay Rs. 5 per sq. feet per month to buyer. With this proposed increase in number of floors, practically there will be further delays in completion of project. In their letter, builder has not mentioned anything about how much delay will occur in completion of project due to this increase in number of floors.

    In this respect our objections are:
    • Builder should categorically quantify to us any delay in completion of project which will occur due to increase in number of floors.

    • Since this delay( due to increase in number of floors) is a planned delay and is occurring due to action of builder , completely different to the normal delays which are unplanned and occur during construction , builder should compensate us in addition to ‘Rs. 5 per sq. feet per month’ penalty rate mentioned in Apartment buyer agreement.

    4. With this proposed increase in number of flats by 41, the common areas (as defined in Apartment buyer agreement) will be divided into more residents / apartments; so the Super area of the apartments as compared to what it was initially should also come down/reduce. But builder in their letter have not mentioned any details about reduction in Super Area.

    In this respect our objections are:
    • Builder should share with us the calculations of Super area for our flat prior to this proposed increase in number of flats.

    • Builder should share with us the new calculations of Super area for our flat with this proposed increase in number of flats, with changes to previous calculations clearly marked.


    • Builder should charge the old Buyers for less Super area though no change will come to Carpet Area. Builder should immediately refund us with interest (15% per annum) the extra amount charged for the extra super area.

    5. With this proposed increase in number of flats by 41, car parking charges, club membership charges, Power back up charges will be divided into more residents / apartments ; so these charges should also come down/reduce as compared to what they were initially. But builder in their letter have not mentioned any details about reduction in these charges.

    In this respect our objections are:

    • Builder should categorically inform us about reduction in these charges and should immediately refund us with interest (15% per annum) the extra amount charged.


    We will also like to bring to your kind notice that – even though builder had published public notice in newspapers on 16th May , Letter sent to us is dated 28th May, a delay of almost two weeks. These clearly show malafide intentions on part of builder and deny us proper time to respond.

    In view of the objections raised in points 1-5 above in this letter, we request you not to approve this revision in building plans by builder.

    Yours Sincerely,
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  • Details for Senior Town Planner#

    Office of Senior Town Planner, Gurgaon
    DEPARTMENT OF TOWN & COUNTRY PLANNING, HARYNA
    SECTOR-14, HUDA COMPLEX, 3RD FLOOR, GURGAON.
    Tel+Fax-0124-2305872
    E-mail: stp.gurgaon.tcp@gmail.com
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  • Bhaai..

    Even senior IAS officers can't comprehend such lofty English

    I will give you one 3BHK free if anyone in the department can read the above letter in one go, leave alone act on it.

    Best is to use some jugaad to put pressure.
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  • Nice id :D
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  • Whaat I can suggest you is , Rather than Going to DTP with this letter , Make a group of 10 or more ppl and then goto Mahindra and meet Mr Dabas and share these conccerns with him , At the end of the day , if 70% ppl done approve of this they wont be able to build it anyway , What I am trying to say here is that you guys can negotiate for the above mentioned things and have a good chance as Mahindra will be open to offer some discount to their original buyers in order to be able to sell 41 more units
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  • As always practical advice by the stalwart!!

    Bang on bhallji.
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  • amit.bhalla,ji,
    Experience speaks sir.
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  • My corrections/ comments in red:-



    To,
    Senior Town Planner
    Gurgaon.

    Subject: Objection to revision in building plans of Tower H/I/J/K of group housing society “Aura”, Sector110A, Gurgaon, proposed by Mahindra Lifespace Developer Ltd

    Dear Sir,
    This is in reference to public notice published by Mahindra Lifespace Developer Ltd. Dated 16.05.2013 in Indian Express and Letter from Mahindra Lifespace Developer Ltd. Dated 28.05.2013 (Ref # XXXXXXXX) for approval of revised building plans falling in group housing scheme –“Aura” in sector 110A, Gurgaon. We have been allotted flat XXXXXXXX in Tower H/I/J/K of this group housing scheme – “Aura” for which revision in building plans has been applied by Mahindra Lifespace Developer Ltd. ( Hereafter referred as “builder” in this letter) to Town and country planning department, Haryana.
    We object to proposed revision in building plans on points mentioned below:
    1. At the time of signing the ‘Apartment buyer agreement’ with builder, Tower H/I/J/K was mentioned as G+13 (13 storey/floors) (I have a 15th floor flat alloted in Tower I in Jan 12) building. Construction of this (this or these??) tower is already underway and builder has constructed this tower till 12 th floor. Builder has not confirmed in the letter sent to us, if the foundation for this tower can support a load for proposed 18 floors? We request the following information from builder in this respect:
    • Earlier approved design for Tower H/I/J/K (when it was G+13) (All floor plans available in website; what additional info is required??? we need to be specific)
    • Revised design for Tower H/I/J/K (with proposed 18 floors) submitted to Town and country planning department, Haryana. (Again available in website)

    We will than get this design verified from an independent accredited structural engineer to make sure this tower can bear the load for proposed 18 floors as per established standards. These apprehensions have been raised since the builder has proposed to increase the number of floors midway during the construction and not before starting the construction of tower.

    2. As mentioned in point 1 above, at the time of signing the ‘Apartment buyer agreement’ with builder, Tower H/I/J/K was mentioned as G+13 (13 storey/floors) building. We had opted for ‘construction linked plan’ wherein payment of installments was linked to completion of floors within tower. This plan was designed considering total of 13 floors in the tower and as such we were required to pay installments after completion of 3 floors. The plan offered by builder is mentioned below:
    On applicatiOn for booking
    within 60 days of booking 20% of Total Sale consideration less booking amount
    On completion of Ground Floor 10% of Total sale consideration
    On completion of 3rd floor 5% of Total sale consideration
    On completion of 6th floor 10% of Total sale consideration
    On completion of 9th floor 5% of Total sale consideration
    On completion of 12th Floor 10% of Total sale consideration
    On completion of super structure 10% of Total sale consideration
    On starting of external paint 5% of Total sale consideration
    On completion of flooring 10% of Total sale consideration
    On completion of services 10% of Total Consideration
    At the time of posession 5% of Total Consideration +
    ECC,IBMS,Registration

    Had this tower been 18 floors, we would have been required to pay installments to builder after completion of 4 floors and not 3 floors as we have to do currently.
    As such, we would have been required to pay 50% of total sale consideration and not 60% as we had to pay currently.

    In this respect our objections are:
    • Builder has not informed any revision in the construction linked plan in the letter sent to us, even though this plan is directly linked to total number of floors in tower.

    • We demand builder to return 10% of Total sale consideration along with interest (15% per annum) which they have demanded in excess from us considering total number of floors as 18 in Tower H/I/J/K.

    3. In the Apartment buyer agreement, builder had committed to deliver the project within a time span of 32 months, beyond which builder will pay Rs. 5 per sq. feet per month to buyer. With this proposed increase in number of floors, practically there will be further delays in completion of project. In their letter, builder has not mentioned anything about how much delay will occur in completion of project due to this increase in number of floors.

    In this respect our objections are:
    • Builder should categorically quantify to us any delay in completion of project which will occur due to increase in number of floors.

    • Since this delay( due to increase in number of floors) is a planned delay and is occurring due to action of builder , completely different to the normal delays which are unplanned and occur during construction , builder should compensate us in addition to ‘Rs. 5 per sq. feet per month’ penalty rate mentioned in Apartment buyer agreement.

    4. With this proposed increase in number of flats by 41, the common areas (as defined in Apartment buyer agreement) will be divided into more residents / apartments; so the Super area of the apartments as compared to what it was initially should also come down/reduce. But builder in their letter have not mentioned any details about reduction in Super Area.

    In this respect our objections are:
    • Builder should share with us the calculations of Super area for our flat prior to this proposed increase in number of flats.

    • Builder should share with us the new calculations of Super area for our flat with this proposed increase in number of flats, with changes to previous calculations clearly marked.


    • Builder should charge the old Buyers for less Super area though no change will come to Carpet Area. Builder should immediately refund us with interest (15% per annum) the extra amount charged for the extra super area.

    5. With this proposed increase in number of flats by 41, car parking charges, club membership charges, Power back up charges will be divided into more residents / apartments ; so these charges should also come down/reduce as compared to what they were initially. But builder in their letter have not mentioned any details about reduction in these charges.

    In this respect our objections are:

    • Builder should categorically inform us about reduction in these charges and should immediately refund us with interest (15% per annum) the extra amount charged.


    We will also like to bring to your kind notice that – even though builder had published public notice in newspapers on 16th May , Letter sent to us is dated 28th May, a delay of almost two weeks. These clearly show malafide intentions on part of builder and deny us proper time to respond.

    In view of the objections raised in points 1-5 above in this letter, we request you not to approve this revision in building plans by builder.

    Yours Sincerely,



    Additonal Comments:-

    There is no point reproducing the payment plans etc. Just make a macro case that the increases numbers of flats would result in increased density of people, flats within the same area which was not what was disclosed to us at the time of builder buyer agreement...... .


    In case we need to make a point on refund of money due to change in flat elevation, this should be the (I presume that the thrust is not on refund but on restricting the builder to the previous plan..)
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  • Post the complaints today..

    If we are serious about it, let us at least fax/deposit our complaints today...

    Could someone find and share the fax number of town planner gurgaon office on the forum...
    Na hi suptasya singh praveshyanti mukhe mrigah




    Cheers
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