Does anybody has any Idea when Haldiram Toll Plaza is Going to move ? I am planning to book some project after the Toll Plaza.
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  • Good Analysis...
    Hope everything falls the same way you described ;)
    Hw much price appreciation do you foresee, if Toll is moved from here ?

    Originally Posted by BlessU
    Hi
    Greetings

    Once breach of contract is established and the contract ends/made to end:D anything can happen..

    some highly connected people operating here would have a better idea as $100s of mn are at stake..
    Out here its just a question of how wild you can make your imagination work where so much investments and reputation is at stake..

    MPs news item
    followed by
    News of Meeting of NHAI and HUDA
    followed by
    News of protest
    followed by
    this notice to the BOLT company
    followed by
    News of protest

    Ab samajhne ko kya bacha hai!!

    Hona kya hai ek baat to samajh main aati hai.. toll to gaya

    Nahin samajh aati to yeh ke kahana???

    waise uski parwah bhi nahin hai for the time being till things move.

    Honestly, their are two things which are the landmarks of gurgaon.. Signature tower which was built by DLF (now realing under a penalty of 630cr) second is the expressway by DGS...(now being served notice regarding irregularities).:o


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  • Originally Posted by imsaurabh
    Good Analysis...
    Hope everything falls the same way you described ;)
    Hw much price appreciation do you foresee, if Toll is moved from here ?


    hi
    Greetings

    Phewff.. a tough one
    Honestly mate, my basic nature is not to give speculative views

    Property is definitely dependent on certain factors and moving of tall would surely add value to NH8 and 8x properties..there are some arguments for and against in this calculation but it is too early and cannot be based purely on the basis of some news item.. Many times newspapers just create hype and sensationalise some aspects of truth so that a distant things appear very near and vice versa.

    In this case they appear rather near:D

    Now if this actuallly happens, over a matter of 1 yr reasonably, it will have a material impact on the valuation of all inventory on the NH8 and 8X and probably 9x sectors as well..

    read some news item that two tolls on a road as per NHAI policy cant be within 60 odd kms.. with that logic maybe toll goes beyond Rewari!!!
    But practically there is no rule of law and things happen at the whims and fancies of those who control it..this is not specific to India but universal truth.

    Again I have some understanding which is firming my beliefs now and hopefully future is going to be good for this area.. lets wait for some more facts to come in public domain.. for now a large sum of money is being claimed in the charges against the contractual agency, which better be true otherwise courts can even delay the matter till eternity. Certainly this is such a productive venture for the investor of eway, that he will not let go off so easily.. best way would be a trade off of some kind.. so that dway can be developed at superfast speed to........:D

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  • Originally Posted by imsaurabh
    BlessU ji,
    Can they enforce this toll to shift to Bilaspur ?
    Or is there any news for the same ? Coz there was a proposal to widen both the toll gates...


    Hi
    Greetings

    Certainly anything can happen, if they do away with the contract and legal terms and conditions on the basis of FRAUD mentioned in the notice handed over to the party.

    The news item mentions the word F R A U D

    Brother, this word is never used/selectively used in any government letter and definitely not done without any legal justification..

    also have been included possible mention of financial embezzlement, as it appears from the news item, which is sufficient enough cause for discontinuation of any agreement.

    Finally, the discomfort and lack of amenities is obvious to one and all and are definitely verifiable.. kabhi 6pm pe weekdays main ja ke dekha hoga aapne to you will agree..
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  • The movement of toll towards Manesar will be a big change for sure but doesn't look easy in spite of all this news and unrest.

    1. DSC maintains NH8 highway till 42.7 mark and current toll plaza is at 42 km mark.
    Delhi Gurgaon Expressway

    2. NH8 starting from 42.7 km mark till 273KM is maintained by Pick CIty Expressway under a different contract.
    Pink City Expressway

    Unless both the sections are maintained by same company under a single contract, toll movement looks very tough. But we can definitely expect better toll managemnt and less traffic chaos after the current unrest shown by public and administration.
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  • Thanks for the info.. just curious how did you came to the figure that NH8 toll is at 42 km mark.. Distance between Ambi mall toll and NH8 is definitely less then 42 km..


    Originally Posted by vinaybhatia
    The movement of toll towards Manesar will be a big change for sure but doesn't look easy in spite of all this news and unrest.

    1. DSC maintains NH8 highway till 42.7 mark and current toll plaza is at 42 km mark.
    Delhi Gurgaon Expressway

    2. NH8 starting from 42.7 km mark till 273KM is maintained by Pick CIty Expressway under a different contract.
    Pink City Expressway

    Unless both the sections are maintained by same company under a single contract, toll movement looks very tough. But we can definitely expect better toll managemnt and less traffic chaos after the current unrest shown by public and administration.
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  • "The last and third stretch of the project is a tourist paradise that cuts through the industrial zone of Haryana to other states carrying a mix of local and commercial vehicles and features a 20 lanes toll plaza at KM-42."

    Delhi Gurgaon Expressway
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  • Originally Posted by manu813
    Thanks for the info.. just curious how did you came to the figure that NH8 toll is at 42 km mark.. Distance between Ambi mall toll and NH8 is definitely less then 42 km..


    NH8 doesn't start from Ambience Mall but from Dhaula Kuan and so is the markings.
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  • Yeah I read this line but not able to find total length of the road managed by them as mentioned by you is 42.7 km.. can you point it where is that written.. if this is the case then it is very difficult to move toll..
    Originally Posted by vinaybhatia
    "The last and third stretch of the project is a tourist paradise that cuts through the industrial zone of Haryana to other states carrying a mix of local and commercial vehicles and features a 20 lanes toll plaza at KM-42."

    Delhi Gurgaon Expressway
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  • that is right but there is a law that you cannot have 2 tolls within 60 km or so.. in this case both tolls are managed by same operator then it seems to be clear cut violation I guess..
    Originally Posted by vinaybhatia
    NH8 doesn't start from Ambience Mall but from Dhaula Kuan and so is the markings.
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  • Originally Posted by vinaybhatia
    The movement of toll towards Manesar will be a big change for sure but doesn't look easy in spite of all this news and unrest.

    1. DSC maintains NH8 highway till 42.7 mark and current toll plaza is at 42 km mark.
    Delhi Gurgaon Expressway

    2. NH8 starting from 42.7 km mark till 273KM is maintained by Pick CIty Expressway under a different contract.
    Pink City Expressway

    Unless both the sections are maintained by same company under a single contract, toll movement looks very tough. But we can definitely expect better toll managemnt and less traffic chaos after the current unrest shown by public and administration.


    Hi
    Greetings

    Logical querry and potentially holds the answer to it as well.. At least the news/unrest have enough potential to wrigle ones grey cells and force it to think about the movement of the toll:D

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  • Originally Posted by manu813
    that is right but there is a law that you cannot have 2 tolls within 60 km or so.. in this case both tolls are managed by same operator then it seems to be clear cut violation I guess..


    Not sure about this rule but have seen two tolls within less than 60km on multiple sections of NH1. There are two tolls between Panipat and Karnal, there are two near Ludhiana.
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  • oh yeah you are right in this observation..let us see what happens as everything is possible in india with money power..
    Originally Posted by vinaybhatia
    Not sure about this rule but have seen two tolls within less than 60km on multiple sections of NH1. There are two tolls between Panipat and Karnal, there are two near Ludhiana.
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  • Originally Posted by manu813
    Yeah I read this line but not able to find total length of the road managed by them as mentioned by you is 42.7 km.. can you point it where is that written.. if this is the case then it is very difficult to move toll..


    As per NHAI details, DSC will construct and maintain from 14.3KM till 42KM.

    Original Tender details : NHAI - PROCUREMENT OLD TENDERS
    Final Agreement: http://www.nhai.org/concession%20aggrement.pdf
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  • Something definitely seems to be brewing up .

    Lets see, where it all ends .




    Originally Posted by BlessU
    NHAI may scrap deal with E-way operator DSC
    NHAI may scrap deal with E-way operator DSC - Hindustan Times

    ...........................................

    Above can well be considered as precursor to the realignment of dwarka expressway with NH8 and possibly more enjoyable travel for commuters:D:bab (22)::bab (4):
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  • Recent protests a publicity gimmick?

    Minister of State for Road, transport & Highways, Jitin Prasad, in a written reply, told the Rajya House on December 8 that no such request had reached the Union government and the question of removing the toll plaza "doesn't arise".

    The developer, on its part, maintains that the provision of the two plazas was there when the project was bid out and it took the risk of building the project paying negative grant to the government.

    Recent protests a publicity gimmick? - The Times of India

    Originally Posted by vinaybhatia
    The movement of toll towards Manesar will be a big change for sure but doesn't look easy in spite of all this news and unrest.

    1. DSC maintains NH8 highway till 42.7 mark and current toll plaza is at 42 km mark.
    Delhi Gurgaon Expressway

    2. NH8 starting from 42.7 km mark till 273KM is maintained by Pick CIty Expressway under a different contract.
    Pink City Expressway

    Unless both the sections are maintained by same company under a single contract, toll movement looks very tough. But we can definitely expect better toll managemnt and less traffic chaos after the current unrest shown by public and administration.
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