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If enough participants feel market price is too high, then market will correct. 4) Incentive: for investors and builders / contractors is to maximise return and minimize risk. Builder tries to pass on the risk of Inflation to Investor. So, investor need to take this additional risk in his assesment. He might conclude that even with this added risk a particular investment is "better" than one without it. So instead of complaining, add it to your risk assessment. Builder tried to increase return by launching at higher than market prices. An investor needs to asses how this affects his return potential and add it to his assessment. So no point complaining about it. 5) Villain? : neither builder / investor is a villain for trying to maximise his return and reducing his risk. 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would love to have a sun-downer with ajguptaji...
It will certainly be a very lively evening...

ps. more enjoyable than making money...
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my pov
RE market in India is an un-regulated Free market free of subsidies. In a free market, price is at which transactions happen (read resale). Price is the purest form of information (it reflects market information, demand-supply, liquidity etc etc)
2) Undervalued/Overvalued is a market participants perception based on his assessment of risk and returns potential. Each investor will have his / her own assesment and come to what they feel is the "fair" price at which the market should trade. If this fair price is lower than market they sell if its high they buy.
3) In context of 2) complaining that "prices are insanely high" is fruitless. According to your assessment price is high, for someone else it might be the fair price. If enough participants feel market price is too high, then market will correct.
4) Incentive: for investors and builders / contractors is to maximise return and minimize risk.
Builder tries to pass on the risk of Inflation to Investor. So, investor need to take this additional risk in his assesment. He might conclude that even with this added risk a particular investment is "better" than one without it. So instead of complaining, add it to your risk assessment.
Builder tried to increase return by launching at higher than market prices. An investor needs to asses how this affects his return potential and add it to his assessment. So no point complaining about it.
5) Villain? : neither builder / investor is a villain for trying to maximise his return and reducing his risk. What makes people villains are unfair practices = late delivery, change in super area, shoddy construction, not delivering on promises etc and not paying on time for investors
6) Regulation: Is required to stop unfair paractices, NOT to control price. Price controls can only be put by governments and for social reasons (protecting poor, increase developments etc)
Complaining about high prices is similar to asking for subsidies. If prices is higher than your fair price assesment do not invest. Complain about mal-practices and unfair practices which distort markets.
RE market in India is an un-regulated Free market free of subsidies. In a free market, price is at which transactions happen (read resale). Price is the purest form of information (it reflects market information, demand-supply, liquidity etc etc)
2) Undervalued/Overvalued is a market participants perception based on his assessment of risk and returns potential. Each investor will have his / her own assesment and come to what they feel is the "fair" price at which the market should trade. If this fair price is lower than market they sell if its high they buy.
3) In context of 2) complaining that "prices are insanely high" is fruitless. According to your assessment price is high, for someone else it might be the fair price. If enough participants feel market price is too high, then market will correct.
4) Incentive: for investors and builders / contractors is to maximise return and minimize risk.
Builder tries to pass on the risk of Inflation to Investor. So, investor need to take this additional risk in his assesment. He might conclude that even with this added risk a particular investment is "better" than one without it. So instead of complaining, add it to your risk assessment.
Builder tried to increase return by launching at higher than market prices. An investor needs to asses how this affects his return potential and add it to his assessment. So no point complaining about it.
5) Villain? : neither builder / investor is a villain for trying to maximise his return and reducing his risk. What makes people villains are unfair practices = late delivery, change in super area, shoddy construction, not delivering on promises etc and not paying on time for investors
6) Regulation: Is required to stop unfair paractices, NOT to control price. Price controls can only be put by governments and for social reasons (protecting poor, increase developments etc)
Complaining about high prices is similar to asking for subsidies. If prices is higher than your fair price assesment do not invest. Complain about mal-practices and unfair practices which distort markets.
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