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  • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

    Details are for the discerning

    Originally posted by vb2309 View Post
    Thanks for the detailed note. I see your point.

    However, I think once they launch they will accept booking from every one not from their old customers only.

    Another point of view could be that giving advantage to existing customers shows their customer service focus. It is like other industries airlines/ hotels..all reward frequesnt customers.

    Just a point of view.

    vb2309
    Hi
    greetings

    Details are for the discerning!! those who invest with caution and not hype and hulla.

    With the examples of marketing in airlines/hotels etc offering discounts it may be suited to the ATS style of doing business but still other points remain True

    its discriminatory,
    Unfair,
    Not transparent

    I bet you will be going through the disclaimers carefully on my advice..
    Future is definitely brighter for you!!


    Cheers

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    • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

      Nipsy dear, There is no clearity on rate as of now. Luanch rate is a crucial information for any company and will not come out easily before official lunch. What we are hearing are just guesstimates from people working closely with ATS. It could be in the range of 4200-5000, we have to wait to find out.

      I have one investment in Chintels.

      Originally posted by nipsy View Post
      Quite agree & so we were prepairing ourselves even for this 4.5K psf level.
      par yaar ...
      1 jhatke mein hi INR 500 increase according to insider information..
      Is ATS taking some online survey of the IREF members to gauge interest levels at various price points..

      Till 15days back it was CLP 4.5K, now it is CLP 5.0K...
      Who knows by the time of launch it will be CLP 5.5K if we dont show our .


      I know you summarised the CV thread
      BTW Are you invested on any dway project vinay.ji.??



      Originally Posted by nipsy
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      1) ATS 4.5K seemed reasonable for Unitech launched CV5.0K approx [5495(BSP)-250(Inaugural)-150(broker discount) on SPR.
      2) Other equally good dway properties (excl mahindra) as Indiabulls, Chintels, Sobha are available in resale <4K

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      • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

        Originally posted by BlessU View Post
        Hi
        greetings

        Details are for the discerning!! those who invest with caution and not hype and hulla.

        With the examples of marketing in airlines/hotels etc offering discounts it may be suited to the ATS style of doing business but still other points remain True

        its discriminatory,
        Unfair,
        Not transparent

        I bet you will be going through the disclaimers carefully on my advice..
        Future is definitely brighter for you!!


        Cheers
        With respect, I disagree.

        Investing and not investing, and investment strategy is a diifrent point.

        Refrence , pre launch deals, you too, or any one alse could have got it on payment of 100 per cent down payment,

        It is an investment decision. Right or wrong it is an investors decision.

        And by the way, other builders give special deals to corporates, I do not see anything wrong in ATS offering pre launch offers to their existing customer base.

        Once again, any one could have baughtg the initial inventory on 100 per cent down payment, not just existing customers of ATS. ANYONE.

        Having said that, thanks for your detailed note.

        Regards,
        vb2309
        Nothing Surprises Me

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        • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

          VB,

          Do not worry , Manoja was making personal comments. His approach was to appreciate a project if his friends are invested in it and if not then he used to criticize it to the end.No logic just criticism. He has some group of friends who also have no credibility ...Yes men!

          ATS doenot use Brokers so broker community is trying to criticize it...Look at other bullshit projects that are promoted like hell without any reason.

          Guys we should use some common sense:

          1) ATS and Shobha bought the land recently and they put their money first, They would not have done so if they didnot believe in the projects.
          2) India bulls : the company constructing the DEW has enormous amount of land bank on DEW.They will try their best to complete the project by next year. There is no stay on their work.
          3) Even if the litigation is not solved in next 6 months..The chances are that the maximum delay due to this will be 6 months. Now if this is the only section left then even the supreme court will rule in the favour of DEW.The land is not belonging to farmers and no one cheated them (like in the case of Noida Extn.)
          4) ATS management pre launched in DP for their old customers and for people who have trust on them.Dear Nipsy: An application acceptance would not have made any difference to them if they wanted to cheat you.
          You can try they are not selling on DP also.
          5) ATS project is close to delhi (the sector roads have to built according to HUDA laws. The alternate connectivity will be there but in anycase ATS is not delivering the project before 2013 ..th etime we expect DEW to be ready or soon to be raedy.
          6) The cost of shit Dwarka soceity flats are 9000. In three years the cost of ATS will atleast be 9000 .
          7) Rest ther eis no guarantee by RBI on this.If you ask anyone in Europe to make a FD in SBI ..at 10% Interest he will call you crazy as it is too risky for him ..So its a perspective that is different for everyone. The European is happy with his 1% interest so I welcome the people not to invest here and loose on the potential return this project will give the investors.
          8)The project and the location is Goldmine otherwise Shobha and ATS would not have put their money here.
          Any other questions are welcome!

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          • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

            Request for Repeal of Ban on Manoja

            Hi
            Greetings

            I write this piece to regret the loss of Manoja in the Forum. I have my personal appreciation and gratitude towards him for helping me develop a clearer thought process of looking at RE, albeit differences.
            I beg to differ with many in The Forum on calling him a "Personal Attacker" which was oft on instigation..
            I admit his views have been quiet strong about certain pertinent issues which affect the welfare of a common investor. Not those who work for Companies to promote the projects, part time online marketing staff, those having insider information etc.
            He never bothered about being "politically correct" in a public forum which I would consider an asset, and may not be misunderstood as a weakness by the vested.

            Most of his arguments have been substantiated by relevant consumer complaints.. I recall a few on the earth, tashee, bptp, vatika posts.. I call that positive contibution not only to the threads where he was invested but to IREF in general..

            I as an investor, do request IREF to kindly repeal his expulsion in the interest of a fair voice..Lest this forum may wither and reduce to commonplace for windbags and trumpeters of greedy builders.

            Cheers

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            • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

              Rahul , the rest of your arguments make eminent sense , but just because Sobha and ATS have bought land at high rates does not guarantee that investors will reap benefits as well. If you recall Unitech bought land at inflated rates on the Noida Expressway a few years back for Unitech Grande project. Soon after Unitech bought the land at record rates, property prices crashed all over.The project is not only severely delayed but has hardly shown much appreciation as well.

              I love your SBI analogy , terrific way to put in your thought process :-)
              Last edited October 24 2011, 08:13 PM.

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              • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

                request to IREF Admn.

                Dear IREF Admn.,

                Many of us believe that MANOJa and PSAMBER have not written anything that can lead to :
                1)loss of credibility of other members by their comments.
                2)influence members (by RE favouratism) to extent of their making loss.

                We may not agree with their language codes at times.
                In forums as IREF, in the end we assume readers use their own IQ & decide what comments to take & what not.

                We want to request IREF to consider removal of their ban.

                Rgds.




                Originally posted by vinaybhatia View Post
                MANOJa and PSAMBER, both are valuable members of IREF. Gurgaon thread will definitely suffer because of their absense.

                I don't know the details about why they were banned, but in any case suspension would have been a good way to disperse the argument. I request Admins to revoke this judgement.

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                • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

                  Originally posted by rahul2011 View Post
                  VB,

                  Do not worry , Manoja was making personal comments. His approach was to appreciate a project if his friends are invested in it and if not then he used to criticize it to the end.No logic just criticism. He has some group of friends who also have no credibility ...Yes men!
                  I request IGRM before revoking the ban of a member his/her past records should also be checked that how many times he or she was banned and suspended.

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                  • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

                    Originally posted by nipsy View Post
                    Dear IREF Admn.,

                    Many of us believe that MANOJa and PSAMBER have not written anything that can lead to :
                    PSAMBER ?? I think he is not having any ban.

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                    • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

                      Originally posted by rahul2011 View Post
                      VB,

                      Do not worry , Manoja was making personal comments. His approach was to appreciate a project if his friends are invested in it and if not then he used to criticize it to the end.No logic just criticism. He has some group of friends who also have no credibility ...Yes men!

                      ATS doenot use Brokers so broker community is trying to criticize it...Look at other bullshit projects that are promoted like hell without any reason.

                      Guys we should use some common sense:

                      1) ATS and Shobha bought the land recently and they put their money first, They would not have done so if they didnot believe in the projects.
                      2) India bulls : the company constructing the DEW has enormous amount of land bank on DEW.They will try their best to complete the project by next year. There is no stay on their work.
                      3) Even if the litigation is not solved in next 6 months..The chances are that the maximum delay due to this will be 6 months. Now if this is the only section left then even the supreme court will rule in the favour of DEW.The land is not belonging to farmers and no one cheated them (like in the case of Noida Extn.)
                      4) ATS management pre launched in DP for their old customers and for people who have trust on them.Dear Nipsy: An application acceptance would not have made any difference to them if they wanted to cheat you.
                      You can try they are not selling on DP also.
                      5) ATS project is close to delhi (the sector roads have to built according to HUDA laws. The alternate connectivity will be there but in anycase ATS is not delivering the project before 2013 ..th etime we expect DEW to be ready or soon to be raedy.
                      6) The cost of shit Dwarka soceity flats are 9000. In three years the cost of ATS will atleast be 9000 .
                      7) Rest ther eis no guarantee by RBI on this.If you ask anyone in Europe to make a FD in SBI ..at 10% Interest he will call you crazy as it is too risky for him ..So its a perspective that is different for everyone. The European is happy with his 1% interest so I welcome the people not to invest here and loose on the potential return this project will give the investors.
                      8)The project and the location is Goldmine otherwise Shobha and ATS would not have put their money here.
                      Any other questions are welcome!
                      Thanks for your note, well versed.
                      Nothing Surprises Me

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