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  • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

    rs Bhai, malice towards anyone tao muhje bhi nahi hain/tha, but if one is not allowed to put his PoV & u can see a group targeting the projects, u r invested in ( just to take pangas, since aur kuuch kaam nahi hain & kuuch credible khane ko nahi hain ) & also personally targeting u, then one tends to feel bad for yr. co investors & if such things persist, malice develop ho hi jaat hain ( as hard as one may try not to ) .

    I think, we better stop here on this as we r diverting from the topic of discussion .
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    • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

      LOL.

      BlessU Bhai, yeh apartment book karne pe, yeh Giraffe and Zebra free miltey Hain ??? aur inki rehne ki jagha bhi ????

      Please let me know . I may seriously consider to book here .

      Originally posted by BlessU
      Hi
      Greetings

      You went to the wrong places my friend.. you should have seen the airport, diplomatic enclave, golf course... commercial buildings..

      also just a few houses are to be moved.. and these are also unauthorised..

      Did you take your famous Giraffe and Zebra along??

      Baki ek cr laga do .. sab dikhne lag jayega

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      • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

        Originally posted by BlessU
        Hi
        Greetings

        You went to the wrong places my friend.. you should have seen the airport, diplomatic enclave, golf course... commercial buildings..

        also just a few houses are to be moved.. and these are also unauthorised..

        Did you take your famous Giraffe and Zebra along??

        Baki ek cr laga do .. sab dikhne lag jayega

        Cheers
        Baba,
        You have some sense of humor...but problem is Amit Personally visited & he was not day dreaming :-)))
        "Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition."

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        • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

          Manoj bhai, yes me too have suffered...after all our investments crosses the paths
          "Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition."

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          • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

            Today I went for site visit to Proposed D way sectors.

            Some of the observations are as follows:

            * Mahindra Project is very close to Palam Vihar and looks to be the safest property. This property is immune to delays on the D way. The two put offs are the "nala" and the "railway line"

            the drain as per Mahindra will be covered by them by the time of possession
            (I hope now u understand why Mahindra got sold like hot cakes every time because it is not dependent on D eway to come up)


            * Lot of sectors falling on the D Way including 109, 110, 112 are surrounded by unauthorized residential/industrial shops/property dealers/dingy kirana stores/small time village shops etc etc, which was great put off. As per local people there are more than thousands and thousands of unauthorised units which can never be removed. The whole of new palam vihar is unauthorised. However the units falling on the demarcation of the D Way may be removed if the litigation issues are sorted out

            I agree unauthorised plots are there in huge amount of numbers , and the quality of people are nothing to talk about , However ,I am seeing that area for the last 5 years now and the quality has improved by leaps and bounds over the years , My take : As the rates will move up for those plots , you will start to see better quality of ppl

            and those unauthorised shops that ur seeing there is just to save their plots from being acquired ...and earn some rent from that plot by doing minimal investment..


            * Chintels, Lumbini and shoba project are on the same stretch near Raheja Atherva

            They actually form a square kind of a shape and u forgot the ATS boundary next to atharva and caladium

            * As per local brokers there is 0 resale activity happening for Raheja Atherva

            Not zero but very minimal , because ppl who were invested sincce so long have just started to get some decent premium and since the payment has gone to the builder so they are sitting tight on it....

            * I wonder if being close to Delhi was a big advantage why the rates of Palam vihar are not more than DLF sectors in South Gurgaon?

            Palam vihar never got the due appreciation because of the approch from bijwasan road , Palam vihar was the first builder colony of GGN , it was made in 1986 by ansals and at one point of time around 1997 , Palam vihar plots were trading 10k psy and DLF 1 was being traded 3k psy (Reason : THat time old delhi Gurgaon road (Maruti road) was the main highway which was closer to palam vihar then DLF 1 was , pv was 3 km and DLF 1 was 7 km)
            So when the new highway became operational , all the barren land which was there got converted to highrise commercials courtesy DLF ...I hope now u will understand what a HIGHWAY can do to an area


            * if people feel that the rates of D way shud be more than GCX in long run. Why not Palam vihar rates are more than DFL Sectors.
            Because when DLF was coming up , they had all the land in the world to develop as everything was barren at that time , sec-14 was the poshest are of ggn at that time (also called as OLD dlf colony) , where as Palam vihar was surrounded by habited sectors (sec 23-23A) , then Old ggn sector (4,5,7) on both sides and Land was not available for the highrise development.....


            * Why not areas adjoining kapas Heda Border is getting better appreciation?
            (because of existing delhi population , kapashera comes under delhi and the habitation was there even at that point of time and it was surrounded by industrial plots of udyog vihar)

            * How much time Ancillary development like Hospitals, Malls, Commercial Offices etc take?
            Ancillary development takes around 7-8 yrs to come up however the most imp things reqd are ROAD , sewer and water and ELEC

            * Honestly I dont have the guts to buy on D way at 4800 price.

            YOur call totally

            * People who bought at 3000-3500 are sitting pretty but I am not sure what kind of return will i get after investing at 4800.

            You might not get premium in 33-4 months , but if ur doing it , then be ready for a gestation period of around 3 yrs for good ROI

            * The whole of new Palam vihar is unauthorised/dingy/low class area. How will it co exist with the luxury offerings of Shobha, ATS??
            DId u see the area where DLF has come up now , before DLF was there , trust me New palam vihar is still better (at that time DLF 3 was in the middle of a village) , SL 1 still has a village in it , DLF 2 is next to sikanderpur village

            Behind GC road towards sushant lok 2 there are loads of slums which are not going away for a few yrs now



            * Clearly the units falling on D way may be demolished but will the thousands and thousands of unauthorized residential, commercial and industrial units be ever removed from new Palam Vihar/ D way sectors

            As the rates of the are go up , more and more ppl start selling their patched of land to builders ( these colonies will be regularised once the infra is provided by the govt and some plots from HUDA are floated in the market for these sectors)

            Honestly I dont have the courage/vision to but at 4700/4800. Rest time will tell if my apprehensions are right or wrong[/COLOR][/QUOTE]


            Absolutely


            PS : I am not justifying the price of 4800 psf for ATS at this point , I am just waiting for 8th nov when the tender has to be awarded for sector roads of D Eway...

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            • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

              Originally posted by anuj2703 View Post
              Me sitting abroad can get hold of them, dont understand why localites cant get that... anyhow see them attached for everyones reference...
              Thanks anuj for posting the floor plan. Two observations:-

              a) Only two lifts for the block. No service lift as ATS has done in its previous projects.
              b) The lift wall is being shared by the living room in the larger 3 bhk unit. Will this not cause lift noise thought the night in these apartments ?

              Is there any info on specs etc. ?

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              • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

                Originally posted by sikkaji View Post
                Thanks anuj for posting the floor plan. Two observations:-

                a) Only two lifts for the block. No service lift as ATS has done in its previous projects.
                b) The lift wall is being shared by the living room in the larger 3 bhk unit. Will this not cause lift noise thought the night in these apartments ?

                Is there any info on specs etc. ?
                the second point iss really not making any sense , DO u think that elevators make so much of noise that their moving up and down will awake u in ur sleep , ye 1984 ki lift nahi laga rhe sir , jisme 2 grills ko kholna padta tha bahar nikalne ke liye........


                ye modern zamana hai ......thoda to socho.....

                and if there are two elevators then one has to be a service lift and the other one would be stretcher lift..

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                • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

                  Originally posted by amit001 View Post
                  Today I went for site visit to Proposed D way sectors.

                  Some of the observations are as follows:

                  * Mahindra Project is very close to Palam Vihar and looks to be the safest property. This property is immune to delays on the D way. The two put offs are the "nala" and the "railway line"

                  * Lot of sectors falling on the D Way including 109, 110, 112 are surrounded by unauthorized residential/industrial shops/property dealers/dingy kirana stores/small time village shops etc etc, which was great put off. As per local people there are more than thousands and thousands of unauthorised units which can never be removed. The whole of new palam vihar is unauthorised. However the units falling on the demarcation of the D Way may be removed if the litigation issues are sorted out

                  * Chintels, Lumbini and shoba project are on the same stretch near Raheja Atherva

                  * As per local brokers there is 0 resale activity happening for Raheja Atherva

                  * I wonder if being close to Delhi was a big advantage why the rates of Palam vihar are not more than DLF sectors in South Gurgaon?

                  * if people feel that the rates of D way shud be more than GCX in long run. Why not Palam vihar rates are more than DFL Sectors.

                  * Why not areas adjoining kapas Heda Border is getting better appreciation?

                  * How much time Ancillary development like Hospitals, Malls, Commercial Offices etc take?

                  * Honestly I dont have the guts to buy on D way at 4800 price.

                  * People who bought at 3000-3500 are sitting pretty but I am not sure what kind of return will i get after investing at 4800.

                  * The whole of new Palam vihar is unauthorised/dingy/low class area. How will it co exist with the luxury offerings of Shobha, ATS??

                  * Clearly the units falling on D way may be demolished but will the thousands and thousands of unauthorized residential, commercial and industrial units be ever removed from new Palam Vihar/ D way sectors

                  Honestly I dont have the courage/vision to but at 4700/4800. Rest time will tell if my apprehensions are right or wrong
                  Amit,

                  Excellent post.
                  You are an Asset to this forum.

                  First hand experience narrated impartially is better than any analysis, prognosis, constructive critism, unbiased sarcasm ( not saying biased criticism) and e brochures or hear and say.

                  Excellent post. You are an asset.

                  All the points listed show that the area will take time to develop and prices should be / are relational.

                  Did u click any snaps u can share please with sector. Umbers mentioned?

                  Thank u for the effort and time my friend.

                  VB
                  Nothing Surprises Me

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                  • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

                    Great post . Some hard hitting facts revisited .

                    Thanks for painting the correct reality & what many of us have been always saying .

                    Originally posted by amit001 View Post
                    Today I went for site visit to Proposed D way sectors.

                    Some of the observations are as follows:

                    * Mahindra Project is very close to Palam Vihar and looks to be the safest property. This property is immune to delays on the D way. The two put offs are the "nala" and the "railway line"

                    * Lot of sectors falling on the D Way including 109, 110, 112 are surrounded by unauthorized residential/industrial shops/property dealers/dingy kirana stores/small time village shops etc etc, which was great put off. As per local people there are more than thousands and thousands of unauthorised units which can never be removed. The whole of new palam vihar is unauthorised. However the units falling on the demarcation of the D Way may be removed if the litigation issues are sorted out

                    * Chintels, Lumbini and shoba project are on the same stretch near Raheja Atherva

                    * As per local brokers there is 0 resale activity happening for Raheja Atherva

                    * I wonder if being close to Delhi was a big advantage why the rates of Palam vihar are not more than DLF sectors in South Gurgaon?

                    * if people feel that the rates of D way shud be more than GCX in long run. Why not Palam vihar rates are more than DFL Sectors.

                    * Why not areas adjoining kapas Heda Border is getting better appreciation?

                    * How much time Ancillary development like Hospitals, Malls, Commercial Offices etc take?

                    * Honestly I dont have the guts to buy on D way at 4800 price.

                    * People who bought at 3000-3500 are sitting pretty but I am not sure what kind of return will i get after investing at 4800.

                    * The whole of new Palam vihar is unauthorised/dingy/low class area. How will it co exist with the luxury offerings of Shobha, ATS??

                    * Clearly the units falling on D way may be demolished but will the thousands and thousands of unauthorized residential, commercial and industrial units be ever removed from new Palam Vihar/ D way sectors

                    Honestly I dont have the courage/vision to but at 4700/4800. Rest time will tell if my apprehensions are right or wrong
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                    • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

                      Originally posted by amit.bhalla View Post
                      the second point iss really not making any sense , DO u think that elevators make so much of noise that their moving up and down will awake u in ur sleep , ye 1984 ki lift nahi laga rhe sir , jisme 2 grills ko kholna padta tha bahar nikalne ke liye........


                      ye modern zamana hai ......thoda to socho.....

                      and if there are two elevators then one has to be a service lift and the other one would be stretcher lift..
                      Hi
                      Greetings

                      Amit please check chintels floor plan and see the reason for lifts not being co-joining the appartment/living area..

                      like wise check floor plan/website of any builder in the spreadsheet
                      https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...GB&pli=1#gid=0

                      I have personally checked a few.. Mr Sika is right.. It is never attached/co-joined to an appartment. Its not only the lift noise ( which cannot be taken away all together) but also the people in it.. (Kids, pets, emotional people, etc)

                      Cheers

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