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  • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

    Originally posted by amit001 View Post
    Bhai still calculate..people who bought in CLP in this very project would still be enjoying higher ROE...

    Give me numbers i will calculate
    I agree with you Amit. ATS Hamlet was launched at 3500 CLP(3200 DP, I think VB got 3000 DP). So for example 2000 sq. ft. flat DP was around 60-64L and CLP was 21L(30%), by now CLP people have given total around 45-50%(around 30-32L) and CLP resale rate is around 5100 psf at least. so in around 18-20 months here is profit :

    On DP : 60-64L investment : 32-35L Profit
    On CLP : 30-32L Investment : 30-32L Profit

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    • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

      Originally posted by vipulmails View Post
      I agree with you Amit. ATS Hamlet was launched at 3500 CLP(3200 DP, I think VB got 3000 DP). So for example 2000 sq. ft. flat DP was around 60-64L and CLP was 21L(30%), by now CLP people have given total around 45-50%(around 30-32L) and CLP resale rate is around 5100 psf at least. so in around 18-20 months here is profit :

      On DP : 60-64L investment : 32-35L Profit
      On CLP : 30-32L Investment : 30-32L Profit
      Wd be interesting to compare after a year.
      Let's add this to favourite.

      Differential investment being Rs 500 multiply 2000 is Rs.10 lacs
      Nothing Surprises Me

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      • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

        Originally posted by vb2309 View Post
        Yaar they won't ...if I sell after a year they won't
        CLP was I think offered at 4000
        Sold at 3900 CLP
        What's better ?
        Remember loan per cent being nill
        VB,

        Your numbers are wrong. The initial DP for One Hamlet was 3200 (Few people got less than that though contacts only) vs 3500 CLP, then it was 3500 DP vs 3800 CLP, then 4000 DP vs 4500 CLP, then 4250 DP vs 5000 CLP. Now it is 5000 DP vs 6000 CLP.

        Where did you get number 3000 DP vs 4000 CLP?

        They (ATS) is unique builder in whole world who increase difference(% & in Rs) DP vs CLP as project progresses.

        Even I talked to senior guys there and they do not have any logical answer.

        Also initially difference was 6L in DP vs CLP and CLP people had not to pay anything for 1st 1 year(as construction speed was very-2 slow, so around 4.8 L already covered on additional payment of 40L 12% year interest). So if you calculate carefully people who took 6L benefit in DP will be eventually in loss of 2-3L.

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        • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

          Originally posted by vb2309 View Post
          Wd be interesting to compare after a year.
          Let's add this to favourite.

          Differential investment being Rs 500 multiply 2000 is Rs.10 lacs
          I already covered answer of this point in my another post.

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          • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

            Originally posted by vipulmails View Post
            VB,

            Your numbers are wrong. The initial DP for One Hamlet was 3200 (Few people got less than that though contacts only) vs 3500 CLP, then it was 3500 DP vs 3800 CLP, then 4000 DP vs 4500 CLP, then 4250 DP vs 5000 CLP. Now it is 5000 DP vs 6000 CLP.

            Where did you get number 3000 DP vs 4000 CLP?

            They (ATS) is unique builder in whole world who increase difference(% & in Rs) DP vs CLP as project progresses.

            Even I talked to senior guys there and they do not have any logical answer.

            Also initially difference was 6L in DP vs CLP and CLP people had not to pay anything for 1st 1 year(as construction speed was very-2 slow, so around 4.8 L already covered on additional payment of 40L 12% year interest). So if you calculate carefully people who took 6L benefit in DP will be eventually in loss of 2-3L.
            Thanks,
            Good note and if ur info is correct then thanks for correcting my misconception.
            Let us revisit the numbers after an year, adding post to favourites.

            VB
            Last edited November 26 2011, 11:58 PM.
            Nothing Surprises Me

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            • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

              Originally posted by rs2507 View Post
              Hi Vinay,
              I broadly agree with your views. The difference or I should say similarity in ATS 109 and Revanta is - if ATS is futuristic location - Futuristic price....Revanta is futuristic concept - futuristic price...so the issue is over pricing. Couple of points to be considered seriously -
              New launches vs Resale - new launches are too aggressively priced and this is not the case only with ATS. Those who wish to enter as investment, any of these launches will not give decent returns in medium to longish terms. On the other hand if you see the resale options at premium locations like Gex or SPR or even NH8, are looking much realistic. If one tries can even bargain a good deal.
              ATS & Dway - These two are two different topics but fortunes are interconnected. I have no doubt on Brand ATS. Issues to be considered here are -
              a) This is a joint project & we all know sajha sarkar ke issues...UPA or NDA
              b) Bigger issue is D way itself. No one can predict. I consider it a great future choice and would have recommended investment. Problem here is that the pricing again is too aggressive, leave aside appreciation...even modest returns on principle can only be a reality depending upon fortunes of D way.
              I agree to you RS on prices of new launches. Current prices are way high and to get decent returns, one may have to wait for medium to long term. Resale in SPR or GCX may work out better if we get good entry points.

              I feel people entering ATS at 4800 may get very minimal returns for next 1 yr. 4350 CLP or 3500/3800 DP was decent entry point for this project.
              Last edited November 27 2011, 04:08 AM.

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              • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

                3400 in CLP, when 3C LP was selling for 3100... both were launched few months apart at similar location. Today both are at 5000...

                3C was an unknown builder, has come up really well... and delivered better ROI

                Will Chintels be DEway's 3C??

                Originally posted by vipulmails View Post
                I agree with you Amit. ATS Hamlet was launched at 3500 CLP(3200 DP, I think VB got 3000 DP). So for example 2000 sq. ft. flat DP was around 60-64L and CLP was 21L(30%), by now CLP people have given total around 45-50%(around 30-32L) and CLP resale rate is around 5100 psf at least. so in around 18-20 months here is profit :

                On DP : 60-64L investment : 32-35L Profit
                On CLP : 30-32L Investment : 30-32L Profit

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                • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

                  This is from another thread, but has very high relevance here -



                  Originally posted by MANOJa View Post
                  So, what i have been saying all along in the ATS 109 & 104 thread looks 100 % correct . Some people seem to be hyping the project in order to gain under a similar Referral customer scheme . The difference could be that BIDPL has announced this & the ATS one looks under the wraps .




                  BIDPL to launch 2 projects in Gurgaon



                  Brisk Infrastructure and Developers (BIDPL) is to launch 2 more projects .....................


                  BIDPL is also launching its 1st Customer Appreciation and Referral Program to reward satisfied customers who have become brand ambassadors for Lumbini Terrace Garden Homes by bringing their friends, family and other like minded people to book apartments.


                  ........................

                  BIDPL to launch 2 projects in Gurgaon
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                  • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

                    Just for people to connect & be aware, i am quoting some earlier discussions in this thread -

                    Originally posted by MANOJa View Post
                    See, it was originally through 2 Brokers . This was 5-6 days back . Since, i never consider Brokers a credible source of information, i didn't bring this up in the Forum . Now, a known person, who was looking to book in ATS 109 & had been going to the ATS office from quite a few days ( from about last 15-16 days ), again shared this thing with me, day before yesterday . At this point, i shared the information in the Forum . See my original post .

                    Now, amit001 has also heard something similar ( see his post of today ).

                    Also, many guys in the thread have been claiming that ATS doesn't deal through Brokers . ISHANb & me received mails from Brokers on ATS . Since, i was not looking at the D e way at this point of time, i deleted those mails ( somebody asked me on this & i replied on it, maybe it was yesterday ) . Check with ISHAN, if he has those mails, maybe, he can reproduce them here .

                    Now it is for people to add 2 + 2 or arrive at whatever conclusions, they think is correct, that is what i can say . Would request other members to share, if they hear something similar .

                    To say that, i am 100 % sure on this would be wrong ( till, i have proof in my hand - which i am trying to get ), but facts r pointing that this may be the correct scenario, but again, without undeniable proof, to say that this news is 100 % correct would be wrong .

                    Originally posted by MANOJa View Post
                    Really amazed at this . If u convince some people ( most probably your friends or associates or people u get in contact with ) to buy a product by showing virtues of the product & building an aura around the product, without those people knowing that u r going to gain monetarily out of this deal, i think something is seriously wrong . In fact, u r acting as a disguised Broker for ATS .
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                    • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

                      Originally posted by vinaybhatia View Post
                      I agree to you RS on prices of new launches. Current prices are way high and to get decent returns, one may have to wait for medium to long term. Resale in SPR or GCX may work out better if we get good entry points.

                      I feel people entering ATS at 4800 may get very minimal returns for next 1 yr. 4350 CLP or 3500/3800 DP was decent entry point for this project.
                      Let us see....when hamlet prices I crested to 4000 similar stuff was said.
                      May be when ATS 109 crosses 6000 or 7000 the launch price of 4700 or 4800 CLP may look cheap.
                      Nothing Surprises Me

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