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  • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

    Unfortunate death of a child at ATS Paradiso2 by falling

    Greetings

    I wonder why anybody doent share any information about he unfortunate death of a child at ATS Paradiso2 by falling.

    Its rather strange that these loyalists come back with a singular agenda of washing up the issue all togther!!

    Wish to know has the FIR been filed in this case??
    Any further information about investigations??
    Any news reports??

    I wish the cheaters and people responsible for this accident are taken to task by the law of the land

    Cheers
    Last edited December 11 2011, 01:54 AM.

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    • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

      Builder is definitely at fault for doing shoddy work in their buildings but similarly I feel parents are also at fault of leaving such child unattended.. If it would have happened in US then the parents would have behind bar because one cannot leave child unattended...

      Very painful incident...
      Originally posted by Agastya07 View Post
      A FIR should be registered against builder for murder and against parents for inelegance to take care of his kid.

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      • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

        Originally posted by psambher
        Loyal to spire but against dway. Looks like your a/c is hijacked by spire lovers.
        hi
        Greetings

        3000 se neeche dway pe abhi bhi buyer hoon ATS to ab 2500 main bhi nahin..

        The pricing is ridiculous for ATS like NAAM BADDA DARSHAN CHOTE types builders... I think you agreed on this one..

        Cheers

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        • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

          Originally posted by BlessU View Post
          hi
          Greetings

          3000 se neeche dway pe abhi bhi buyer hoon ATS to ab 2500 main bhi nahin..

          The pricing is ridiculous for ATS like NAAM BADDA DARSHAN CHOTE types builders... I think you agreed on this one..

          Cheers
          Prices are very high but ATS will not become bad builder due to one incidence.

          Every builder has one or other issues. Difficult to find "Doodh Ka dhulla" builder.


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          • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

            Originally posted by psambher View Post
            Prices are very high but ATS will not become bad builder due to one incidence.

            Every builder has one or other issues. Difficult to find "Doodh Ka dhulla" builder.


            Hi
            Greetings

            You are absolutely right.. Like I said.. 90%+ are untrustworthy and the problem gets worsened when spammers, charltans, cheats, MLM members, brokers with multiple ids start giving stupid and deceiving projections of 30% in short term and 42% in long terms. Funny part is they claim with conviction about their loyalty and confidence about one singular builder and having a crore rupee of investments in DP but have no clue of whats happening !!

            I mean this is the height of shamelessness on the part of few who are caught lying/concocting stories here and subsequently suspended or banned by moderators many times. These shameless characters in their attempt to hoodwink innocent and gullible NRIs/HNIs/Endusers then start operating with different IDs keep drumming about one singular builder.

            Honestly, psamber ji I find you a more valued and a knowledgeable member than these impostors despite a few argumentative-ideological differences and lack of facts that you may be having about my beliefs. I know your inquisitiveness about my well founded and factual -ve bias towards dway and my investments, but I may not find my POVs or investment consequential upon your or any fellow members investments. Everybody has his or her own mind and its a collective learning experience for all on this forum where one may follow or ignore POVs of other members.

            By POVs it does not mean that people start lying.. that's what spammers, fakers, charlatans, multiple id concoctors have been doing here since the beginning and getting caught again and again and again..

            Cheers

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            • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

              Very well said BlessU, this is the crux for many many unnecessary arguments on this thread.
              RS
              "Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition."

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              • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

                Originally posted by rs2507 View Post
                Very well said BlessU, this is the crux for many many unnecessary arguments on this thread.
                RS
                Hi
                Greetings

                Brother, I am least interested about what anybodies agenda is here on the forum.. I know one thing.. If it comes to my view and I am sure I will call a spade a spade.. IGRM is becoming proactive revealing IP addresses of such charltans as is evident from Noida thread reproduced here

                http://www.indianrealestateforum.com/289927-post47.html

                [Originally Posted by IGRM
                Multiple ID’s.
                203.110.202.130
                aam aadmi
                zk_india
                zohaib2011
                m_Scorpio
                Quote:
                Originally Posted by hunter2011
                awesome job by admin..thx
                203.110.202.0 through 203.110.202.255

                Melbourne, Victoria

                The IP address 203.110.202.0 was found near Melbourne, Victoria located in Australia. We found 0 companies nearby IP address 203.110.202.0 and 0 points of interest.

                IP Address: 203.110.202.0 through 203.110.202.255 - Melbourne, Victoria

                zohaib bhai, IREF ke haath bahut lambe hain....]

                Valued members have even deciphered the IP addresses, location of such multiple ID characters.

                With this I would request IGRM to kindly reveal pertinent multiple IDs prevelant on this thread to make gurgaon a clean and tidy place and examplify to one and all what IGRM can do to ensure that sanity prevails. A good reason should be made available to those who think that they can hoodwink innocent public and walk away undetected.

                To a large extent Manoja has played a very pertinent role in establishing multiple Ids of various surreptitious characters on this thread and I think Manoja should be rewarded by IGRM for his loyalty, dexterity, wisdom and righteousness..
                I know he has made as many detractors as many as his well wishers but ultimately he has helped countless investors getting stuck in the cobwebs laid by brokers/marketeers.
                His suspension therefore may kindly be revoked at the earliest in the interest of ensuring righteousness on this forum
                also

                please reveal which IDs have coterminous IP addresses!!!
                Cheers
                Last edited December 12 2011, 02:51 AM.

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                • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

                  Originally posted by BlessU View Post
                  Hi
                  Greetings

                  Brother, I am least interested about what anybodies agenda is here on the forum.. I know one thing.. If it comes to my view and I am sure I will call a spade a spade.. IGRM is becoming proactive revealing IP addresses of such charltans as is evident from Noida thread reproduced here

                  http://www.indianrealestateforum.com/289927-post47.html

                  [Originally Posted by IGRM
                  Multiple ID’s.
                  203.110.202.130
                  aam aadmi
                  zk_india
                  zohaib2011
                  m_Scorpio
                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by hunter2011
                  awesome job by admin..thx
                  203.110.202.0 through 203.110.202.255

                  Melbourne, Victoria

                  The IP address 203.110.202.0 was found near Melbourne, Victoria located in Australia. We found 0 companies nearby IP address 203.110.202.0 and 0 points of interest.

                  IP Address: 203.110.202.0 through 203.110.202.255 - Melbourne, Victoria

                  zohaib bhai, IREF ke haath bahut lambe hain....]

                  Valued members have even deciphered the IP addresses, location of such multiple ID characters.

                  With this I would request IGRM to kindly reveal pertinent multiple IDs prevelant on this thread to make gurgaon a clean and tidy place and examplify to one and all what IGRM can do to ensure that sanity prevails. A good reason should be made available to those who think that they can hoodwink innocent public and walk away undetected.

                  To a large extent Manoja has played a very pertinent role in establishing multiple Ids of various surreptitious characters on this thread and I think Manoja should be rewarded by IGRM for his loyalty, dexterity, wisdom and righteousness..
                  I know he has made as many detractors as many as his well wishers but ultimately he has helped countless investors getting stuck in the cobwebs laid by brokers/marketeers.
                  His suspension therefore may kindly be revoked at the earliest in the interest of ensuring righteousness on this forum
                  also

                  please reveal which IDs have coterminous IP addresses!!!
                  Cheers
                  excellent step by admin to disclose IP address. This way anyone opposing others or not agrreing to one's point of view would not be regarded as duplicate ID.

                  I wish IREF also starts disclosing members who are acting as mods in similar way just below name like veteran+moderator.

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                  • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

                    Originally posted by golu11 View Post
                    excellent step by admin to disclose IP address. This way anyone opposing others or not agrreing to one's point of view would not be regarded as duplicate ID.

                    I wish IREF also starts disclosing members who are acting as mods in similar way just below name like veteran+moderator.
                    [/QUOTE]Hi
                    Greetings

                    I need to firstly thank IGRM for having used its wisdom and jurisprudence for having removed some very offensive posts and in helping manage the usefulness of this forum.. On this forum many have been able to benefit in deciding the future fate of their hard earned money including me.. I can say that I am now enriched about RE knowledge by at least 10 times than what I started with.

                    To help me achieve the understanding about the nuances and the nitty gritties of the market, I have been able to absorp the opinions and reasoning brought out here in the form of arguments in a positive manner by impartial and seasoned investors and professionals. More so helped me to prevent my money going to the wrong hands.

                    I think with the heart of an end user, whenever I put my money into an investment as I understand the pain of being denied from the pleasures of getting what one rightfully owns. Most of endusers who have collected a small pool after toiling hard entrust it to some builders. I have come to a formidable conclusion that these builders cheat(90%+) customers in one way or the other in the absence of any regulatory frameworks and politcian-adminstration-broker-builder nexus. Such methods to cheat are clearly elaborated in my worksheet on Dwarka expressway projects, builders, analysis, news, important websites and broker details.. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...hl=en_GB#gid=0

                    I try to update the data with some help from various blogs and information available here. Irrespective of where I am invested or any influence with factual data backed on genuine complaints from the customers and information avaialbe in public domain.. Many builders have and continue to skim unsuspecting NRIs/Investors/End users by pure lies, lack of transparency, hidding the truth and surreptitious marketing measures and innovative MLM techniques..

                    About ATS Loyalists (most vocal ones)
                    Very clearly so called loyal customers have in various post on this thread
                    1]Forgot the rate at which invested
                    2]Proclaimed 1 investment in this thread and suddenly mentioned two in ats 104 thread
                    3]Supported many wrong information about price and dates of launch
                    4]Wrong information about the fact that Kokoon will be available only directly through Brokers (and latter changed the statement conveniently)
                    5]Two price points available at the same time with a difference of 9.4 lacs for the smallest size between ATS and Chintels
                    6]Loyalists themselves calling the lackadaisical marketing and communication of ATS and Chintels a "goof up"
                    7]No information still available despite 6 months (appx) from the start of this thread about the various pertinent commercial aspects concerning the launch
                    8]Abusive, threatening and obnoxious allegations leveled by certain loyalists against co members
                    9]Unbelievable practice of ATS allowing resale before formal launch in case of Rahul,
                    10]Spate of pre launches and pre-pre-launches by ATS and Chintels separately just to create hype and get maximum subscription on DP to secure there own interests.

                    About the company
                    On the other hand ATS is perceived as better developer than most
                    This perception is based on a singular project developed by them many years ago
                    This perception has very smartly been captured through proactive and innovative marketing to the detriment of customers
                    ATS is majorly a UP based builder and has not delivered anything outside NOIDA
                    The DP policy of the company is most harmful to the interests of customers in the uneventful case of invocation of force majure clauses/litigation etc.
                    Ats has record of having returned money without any interest earlier in their proposed project in GGN unsuccessfully
                    The Paradiso 2 customers were handed over unfinished apartments as with a delay of more than 2 years,
                    The unfinished Paradiso2 project was hurriedly handed over to ensure image of future launch is not tarnished and to avoid PENALTY for delay clause,
                    The Dear Bassi Projects is languishing for about 6 years without having been delivered to customers. The appreciations there would have been far better if the project would have been delivered on time (i know some loyalists would say that the project is still being resold with appreciation, I pity them)
                    The residents of Paradiso 2 have been charged a Super Area, excess by 10% over promised value despite delays largely inflating their budgets
                    Additional accomodation was sold affecting the overall experience and to the dissatisfaction of the initial subscribers of Paradiso2, without being informed.

                    I rest the case with those who wish to invest with ATS to decide with their own wisdom and after looking into the inhibtions/limitations/Risks/bottlenecks of dway http://www.indianrealestateforum.com...-post1388.html.
                    I was seriously planning for this venture and am gutted by the high handed, nonchalant attitude and nontransparent management/JV and definitely would not like to live with such rude and neighbours as represented here in this forum.

                    I am as confirmed about my not being a moderator as alleged by some rude, imbecile and ignormous loyalists/MLM marketeers here, as about the certainty of most of the facts mentioned above, which are not in favour of investment with this builder in particular and 10x sectors on dway in general.. my POV

                    Cheers[/QUOTE]

                    CHECK MY PREVIOUS POST REPRODUCED HERE WITH RELEVANT PORTION PUT IN BOLD FOR YOUR BENEFIT.
                    HOPE THAT HELPS.

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                    • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

                      Great post . This sums up the story of this thread .

                      Originally posted by BlessU View Post
                      Hi
                      Greetings

                      You are absolutely right.. Like I said.. 90%+ are untrustworthy and the problem gets worsened when spammers, charltans, cheats, MLM members, brokers with multiple ids start giving stupid and deceiving projections of 30% in short term and 42% in long terms. Funny part is they claim with conviction about their loyalty and confidence about one singular builder and having a crore rupee of investments in DP but have no clue of whats happening !!

                      I mean this is the height of shamelessness on the part of few who are caught lying/concocting stories here and subsequently suspended or banned by moderators many times. These shameless characters in their attempt to hoodwink innocent and gullible NRIs/HNIs/Endusers then start operating with different IDs keep drumming about one singular builder.

                      Honestly, psamber ji I find you a more valued and a knowledgeable member than these impostors despite a few argumentative-ideological differences and lack of facts that you may be having about my beliefs. I know your inquisitiveness about my well founded and factual -ve bias towards dway and my investments, but I may not find my POVs or investment consequential upon your or any fellow members investments. Everybody has his or her own mind and its a collective learning experience for all on this forum where one may follow or ignore POVs of other members.

                      By POVs it does not mean that people start lying.. that's what spammers, fakers, charlatans, multiple id concoctors have been doing here since the beginning and getting caught again and again and again..

                      Cheers
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