Heard that ATS is coming up with their Residential project in sec 109 in 14 acres , next to atharva.....

Anybody having any more info on this....????
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  • Here is my research:

    EDC and IDC is calculated basis on the rates applicable at the time of issuing license to the society

    For ATS Kocoon License was issued in 2011 ( saw in the ATS agreement)

    My calculation is based on whatever information I gathered form Google ( Please Note this is not my source, I calculated based on the information I gathered from other groups)

    The rate of 176.28 Lac / acre is applicable for the projects which obtained license in the calendar year 2009 and the rate is applicable for 3 years with 10% compounded increase every year. The following rates apply for the every calendar year

    Year Applicable EDC
    2009 – 176.28 Lacs
    2010 - 193.91 Lacs
    2011 - 213.30 Lacs

    ATS KOCOON obtained the license in 2011, hence the rate of EDC applicable is for calendar year 2011.
    At the rate of 213.30 Lacs per gross acre, the total amount for the 10.45 acres to be paid to government comes to ~ Rs 2228.98 Lacs as EDC to be paid by builder.
    1 acre = 43560 sq feet

    Hence EDC component per square feet of the apartment area for this project would be = Rs 2228.98 Lacs / (Total cost of EDC / (Total Square feet* FAS))= Rs279.81/sqft

    Note: I have taken maximum permissible FAS, which is 1.75
    IDC Calculations

    As per 28/1/2008 notification on IDC, the residential group housing zone would come under Hyper potential zone (Gurgaon Manesar Master Plan 2005-06) and attract Rs 625/ square meter.

    Considering 10.45 acres of “ATS Kocoon”, total square meters come to 42,291.15 sq mtr (47.218 acres x 4047 sq mtrs per acre).
    The total IDC would be Rs 625/sq mtr X 42,291.15 sq mtr = Rs 264.32 Lacs

    IDC would be Rs 33.18/ sqft (264.32 lacs /


    Considering the above calculations. The EDC / IDC must be max Rs 313/sqft


    BUT:
    The above calculation is for the sanctioned building plans and for the legal FAR, however as the builder charges the EDC/IDC on the super area, the above would come down futher down by Rs 90 since the loading is usually between 25-30%.

    The effective EDC/IDC for the 2011 would be around Rs 220-240 depending on the loading.

    ( I am not sure how much of this information is correct/ But I realized since we are calculating EDC/IDC in terms of per sq feet. It does not matter how many acres builder own).

    I also realized that EDC and IDC amount is payable to the government so similar location should have similar EDC and IDC per sq feet.. At least makes more sense to me this way. I compared EDC and IDC component for Raheja and Puri with ATS. I am not sure of the license year of both the projects (Raheja and Puri). Raheja which is right next to ATS is charging 250 per sq feet and Puri is charging 335 per sq feet. Rs 375 per sq feet from ATS seems too high to me?

    I called the ATS sales office but they were not aware of any refunds being given by other builders. Their knowledge about EDC and IDC seems limited to me . I think we should followup with the head for any clarifications. I am sure ATS is a good builder and our money is safe , however we have the rights to know the calculation. Let me know your thoughts?( I am not sure how much of this information is correct/ But I realized since we are calculating EDC/IDC in terms of per sq feet. It does not matter how many acres builder own).

    I also realized that EDC and IDC amount is payable to the government so similar location should have similar EDC and IDC per sq feet.. At least makes more sense to me this way. I compared EDC and IDC component for Raheja and Puri with ATS. I am not sure of the license year of both the projects (Raheja and Puri). Raheja which is right next to ATS is charging 250 per sq feet and Puri is charging 335 per sq feet. Rs 375 per sq feet from ATS seems too high to me?

    I called the ATS sales office but they were not aware of any refunds being given by other builders. Their knowledge about EDC and IDC seems limited to me . I think we should followup with the head for any clarifications. I am sure ATS is a good builder and our money is safe , however we have the rights to know the calculation. Let me know your thoughts?( I am not sure how much of this information is correct/ But I realized since we are calculating EDC/IDC in terms of per sq feet. It does not matter how many acres builder own).

    I also realized that EDC and IDC amount is payable to the government so similar location should have similar EDC and IDC per sq feet.. At least makes more sense to me this way. I compared EDC and IDC component for Raheja and Puri with ATS. I am not sure of the license year of both the projects (Raheja and Puri). Raheja which is right next to ATS is charging 250 per sq feet and Puri is charging 335 per sq feet. Rs 375 per sq feet from ATS seems too high to me?

    I called the ATS sales office but they were not aware of any refunds being given by other builders. Their knowledge about EDC and IDC seems limited to me . I think we should followup with the head for any clarifications. I am sure ATS is a good builder and our money is safe , however we have the rights to know the calculation. Let me know your thoughts?( I am not sure how much of this information is correct/ But I realized since we are calculating EDC/IDC in terms of per sq feet. It does not matter how many acres builder own).

    I also realized that EDC and IDC amount is payable to the government so similar location should have similar EDC and IDC per sq feet.. At least makes more sense to me this way. I compared EDC and IDC component for Raheja and Puri with ATS. I am not sure of the license year of both the projects (Raheja and Puri). Raheja which is right next to ATS is charging 250 per sq feet and Puri is charging 335 per sq feet. Rs 375 per sq feet from ATS seems too high to me?

    I called the ATS sales office but they were not aware of any refunds being given by other builders. Their knowledge about EDC and IDC seems limited to me . I think we should followup with the head for any clarifications. I am sure ATS is a good builder and our money is safe , however we have the rights to know the calculation. Let me know your thoughts?( I am not sure how much of this information is correct/ But I realized since we are calculating EDC/IDC in terms of per sq feet. It does not matter how many acres builder own).

    I also realized that EDC and IDC amount is payable to the government so similar location should have similar EDC and IDC per sq feet.. At least makes more sense to me this way. I compared EDC and IDC component for Raheja and Puri with ATS. I am not sure of the license year of both the projects (Raheja and Puri). Raheja which is right next to ATS is charging 250 per sq feet and Puri is charging 335 per sq feet. Rs 375 per sq feet from ATS seems too high to me?

    I called the ATS sales office but they were not aware of any refunds being given by other builders. Their knowledge about EDC and IDC seems limited to me . I think we should followup with the head for any clarifications. I am sure ATS is a good builder and our money is safe , however we have the rights to know the calculation. Let me know your thoughts?( I am not sure how much of this information is correct/ But I realized since we are calculating EDC/IDC in terms of per sq feet. It does not matter how many acres builder own).

    I also realized that EDC and IDC amount is payable to the government so similar location should have similar EDC and IDC per sq feet.. At least makes more sense to me this way. I compared EDC and IDC component for Raheja and Puri with ATS. I am not sure of the license year of both the projects (Raheja and Puri). Raheja which is right next to ATS is charging 250 per sq feet and Puri is charging 335 per sq feet. Rs 375 per sq feet from ATS seems too high to me?

    I called the ATS sales office but they were not aware of any refunds being given by other builders. Their knowledge about EDC and IDC seems limited to me . I think we should followup with the head for any clarifications. I am sure ATS is a good builder and our money is safe , however we have the rights to know the calculation. Let me know your thoughts?( I am not sure how much of this information is correct/ But I realized since we are calculating EDC/IDC in terms of per sq feet. It does not matter how many acres builder own).

    I also realized that EDC and IDC amount is payable to the government so similar location should have similar EDC and IDC per sq feet.. At least makes more sense to me this way. I compared EDC and IDC component for Raheja and Puri with ATS. I am not sure of the license year of both the projects (Raheja and Puri). Raheja which is right next to ATS is charging 250 per sq feet and Puri is charging 335 per sq feet. Rs 375 per sq feet from ATS seems too high to me?

    I called the ATS sales office but they were not aware of any refunds being given by other builders. Their knowledge about EDC and IDC seems limited to me . I think we should followup with the head for any clarifications. I am sure ATS is a good builder and our money is safe , however we have the rights to know the calculation. Let me know your thoughts?( I am not sure how much of this information is correct/ But I realized since we are calculating EDC/IDC in terms of per sq feet. It does not matter how many acres builder own).

    I also realized that EDC and IDC amount is payable to the government so similar location should have similar EDC and IDC per sq feet.. At least makes more sense to me this way. I compared EDC and IDC component for Raheja and Puri with ATS. I am not sure of the license year of both the projects (Raheja and Puri). Raheja which is right next to ATS is charging 250 per sq feet and Puri is charging 335 per sq feet. Rs 375 per sq feet from ATS seems too high to me?

    I called the ATS sales office but they were not aware of any refunds being given by other builders. Their knowledge about EDC and IDC seems limited to me . I think we should followup with the head for any clarifications. I am sure ATS is a good builder and our money is safe , however we have the rights to know the calculation. Let me know your thoughts?( I am not sure how much of this information is correct/ But I realized since we are calculating EDC/IDC in terms of per sq feet. It does not matter how many acres builder own).

    I also realized that EDC and IDC amount is payable to the government so similar location should have similar EDC and IDC per sq feet.. At least makes more sense to me this way. I compared EDC and IDC component for Raheja and Puri with ATS. I am not sure of the license year of both the projects (Raheja and Puri). Raheja which is right next to ATS is charging 250 per sq feet and Puri is charging 335 per sq feet. Rs 375 per sq feet from ATS seems too high to me?

    I called the ATS sales office but they were not aware of any refunds being given by other builders. Their knowledge about EDC and IDC seems limited to me . I think we should followup with the head for any clarifications. I am sure ATS is a good builder and our money is safe , however we have the rights to know the calculation. Let me know your thoughts?( I am not sure how much of this information is correct/ But I realized since we are calculating EDC/IDC in terms of per sq feet. It does not matter how many acres builder own).

    I also realized that EDC and IDC amount is payable to the government so similar location should have similar EDC and IDC per sq feet.. At least makes more sense to me this way. I compared EDC and IDC component for Raheja and Puri with ATS. I am not sure of the license year of both the projects (Raheja and Puri). Raheja which is right next to ATS is charging 250 per sq feet and Puri is charging 335 per sq feet. Rs 375 per sq feet from ATS seems too high to me?

    I called the ATS sales office but they were not aware of any refunds being given by other builders. Their knowledge about EDC and IDC seems limited to me . I think we should followup with the head for any clarifications. I am sure ATS is a good builder and our money is safe , however we have the rights to know the calculation. Let me know your thoughts?( I am not sure how much of this information is correct/ But I realized since we are calculating EDC/IDC in terms of per sq feet. It does not matter how many acres builder own).

    I also realized that EDC and IDC amount is payable to the government so similar location should have similar EDC and IDC per sq feet.. At least makes more sense to me this way. I compared EDC and IDC component for Raheja and Puri with ATS. I am not sure of the license year of both the projects (Raheja and Puri). Raheja which is right next to ATS is charging 250 per sq feet and Puri is charging 335 per sq feet. Rs 375 per sq feet from ATS seems too high to me?

    I called the ATS sales office but they were not aware of any refunds being given by other builders. Their knowledge about EDC and IDC seems limited to me . I think we should followup with the head for any clarifications. I am sure ATS is a good builder and our money is safe , however we have the rights to know the calculation. Let me know your thoughts?( I am not sure how much of this information is correct/ But I realized since we are calculating EDC/IDC in terms of per sq feet. It does not matter how many acres builder own).

    I also realized that EDC and IDC amount is payable to the government so similar location should have similar EDC and IDC per sq feet.. At least makes more sense to me this way. I compared EDC and IDC component for Raheja and Puri with ATS. I am not sure of the license year of both the projects (Raheja and Puri). Raheja which is right next to ATS is charging 250 per sq feet and Puri is charging 335 per sq feet. Rs 375 per sq feet from ATS seems too high to me?

    I called the ATS sales office but they were not aware of any refunds being given by other builders. Their knowledge about EDC and IDC seems limited to me . I think we should followup with the head for any clarifications. I am sure ATS is a good builder and our money is safe , however we have the rights to know the calculation. Let me know your thoughts?( I am not sure how much of this information is correct/ But I realized since we are calculating EDC/IDC in terms of per sq feet. It does not matter how many acres builder own).

    I also realized that EDC and IDC amount is payable to the government so similar location should have similar EDC and IDC per sq feet.. At least makes more sense to me this way. I compared EDC and IDC component for Raheja and Puri with ATS. I am not sure of the license year of both the projects (Raheja and Puri). Raheja which is right next to ATS is charging 250 per sq feet and Puri is charging 335 per sq feet. Rs 375 per sq feet from ATS seems too high to me?

    I called the ATS sales office but they were not aware of any refunds being given by other builders. Their knowledge about EDC and IDC seems limited to me . I think we should followup with the head for any clarifications. I am sure ATS is a good builder and our money is safe , however we have the rights to know the calculation. Let me know your thoughts?( I am not sure how much of this information is correct/ But I realized since we are calculating EDC/IDC in terms of per sq feet. It does not matter how many acres builder own).

    I also realized that EDC and IDC amount is payable to the government so similar location should have similar EDC and IDC per sq feet.. At least makes more sense to me this way. I compared EDC and IDC component for Raheja and Puri with ATS. I am not sure of the license year of both the projects (Raheja and Puri). Raheja which is right next to ATS is charging 250 per sq feet and Puri is charging 335 per sq feet. Rs 375 per sq feet from ATS seems too high to me?

    I called the ATS sales office but they were not aware of any refunds being given by other builders. Their knowledge about EDC and IDC seems limited to me . I think we should followup with the head for any clarifications. I am sure ATS is a good builder and our money is safe , however we have the rights to know the calculation. Let me know your thoughts?( I am not sure how much of this information is correct/ But I realized since we are calculating EDC/IDC in terms of per sq feet. It does not matter how many acres builder own).

    I also realized that EDC and IDC amount is payable to the government so similar location should have similar EDC and IDC per sq feet.. At least makes more sense to me this way. I compared EDC and IDC component for Raheja and Puri with ATS. I am not sure of the license year of both the projects (Raheja and Puri). Raheja which is right next to ATS is charging 250 per sq feet and Puri is charging 335 per sq feet. Rs 375 per sq feet from ATS seems too high to me?

    I called the ATS sales office but they were not aware of any refunds being given by other builders. Their knowledge about EDC and IDC seems limited to me . I think we should followup with the head for any clarifications. I am sure ATS is a good builder and our money is safe , however we have the rights to know the calculation. Let me know your thoughts?( I am not sure how much of this information is correct/ But I realized since we are calculating EDC/IDC in terms of per sq feet. It does not matter how many acres builder own).

    I also realized that EDC and IDC amount is payable to the government so similar location should have similar EDC and IDC per sq feet.. At least makes more sense to me this way. I compared EDC and IDC component for Raheja and Puri with ATS. I am not sure of the license year of both the projects (Raheja and Puri). Raheja which is right next to ATS is charging 250 per sq feet and Puri is charging 335 per sq feet. Rs 375 per sq feet from ATS seems too high to me?

    I called the ATS sales office but they were not aware of any refunds being given by other builders. Their knowledge about EDC and IDC seems limited to me . I think we should followup with the head for any clarifications. I am sure ATS is a good builder and our money is safe , however we have the rights to know the calculation. Let me know your thoughts?( I am not sure how much of this information is correct/ But I realized since we are calculating EDC/IDC in terms of per sq feet. It does not matter how many acres builder own).

    I also realized that EDC and IDC amount is payable to the government so similar location should have similar EDC and IDC per sq feet.. At least makes more sense to me this way. I compared EDC and IDC component for Raheja and Puri with ATS. I am not sure of the license year of both the projects (Raheja and Puri). Raheja which is right next to ATS is charging 250 per sq feet and Puri is charging 335 per sq feet. Rs 375 per sq feet from ATS seems too high to me?

    I called the ATS sales office but they were not aware of any refunds being given by other builders. Their knowledge about EDC and IDC seems limited to me . I think we should followup with the head for any clarifications. I am sure ATS is a good builder and our money is safe , however we have the rights to know the calculation. Let me know your thoughts?
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  • Originally Posted by cherrie85
    Here is my research:

    EDC and IDC is calculated basis on the rates applicable at the time of issuing license to the society

    For ATS Kocoon License was issued in 2011 ( saw in the ATS agreement)

    My calculation is based on whatever information I gathered form Google ( Please Note this is not my source, I calculated based on the information I gathered from other groups)

    The rate of 176.28 Lac / acre is applicable for the projects which obtained license in the calendar year 2009 and the rate is applicable for 3 years with 10% compounded increase every year. The following rates apply for the every calendar year

    Year Applicable EDC
    2009 – 176.28 Lacs
    2010 - 193.91 Lacs
    2011 - 213.30 Lacs

    ATS KOCOON obtained the license in 2011, hence the rate of EDC applicable is for calendar year 2011.
    At the rate of 213.30 Lacs per gross acre, the total amount for the 10.45 acres to be paid to government comes to ~ Rs 2228.98 Lacs as EDC to be paid by builder.
    1 acre = 43560 sq feet

    Hence EDC component per square feet of the apartment area for this project would be = Rs 2228.98 Lacs / (Total cost of EDC / (Total Square feet* FAS))= Rs279.81/sqft

    Note: I have taken maximum permissible FAS, which is 1.75
    IDC Calculations

    As per 28/1/2008 notification on IDC, the residential group housing zone would come under Hyper potential zone (Gurgaon Manesar Master Plan 2005-06) and attract Rs 625/ square meter.

    Considering 10.45 acres of “ATS Kocoon”, total square meters come to 42,291.15 sq mtr (47.218 acres x 4047 sq mtrs per acre).
    The total IDC would be Rs 625/sq mtr X 42,291.15 sq mtr = Rs 264.32 Lacs

    IDC would be Rs 33.18/ sqft (264.32 lacs /


    Considering the above calculations. The EDC / IDC must be max Rs 313/sqft


    BUT:
    The above calculation is for the sanctioned building plans and for the legal FAR, however as the builder charges the EDC/IDC on the super area, the above would come down futher down by Rs 90 since the loading is usually between 25-30%.

    The effective EDC/IDC for the 2011 would be around Rs 220-240 depending on the loading.

    ( I am not sure how much of this information is correct/ But I realized since we are calculating EDC/IDC in terms of per sq feet. It does not matter how many acres builder own).

    I also realized that EDC and IDC amount is payable to the government so similar location should have similar EDC and IDC per sq feet.. At least makes more sense to me this way. I compared EDC and IDC component for Raheja and Puri with ATS. I am not sure of the license year of both the projects (Raheja and Puri). Raheja which is right next to ATS is charging 250 per sq feet and Puri is charging 335 per sq feet. Rs 375 per sq feet from ATS seems too high to me?

    I called the ATS sales office but they were not aware of any refunds being given by other builders. Their knowledge about EDC and IDC seems limited to me . I think we should followup with the head for any clarifications. I am sure ATS is a good builder and our money is safe , however we have the rights to know the calculation. Let me know your thoughts?
    Hello Cherie85,
    Good stuff.. do you have a view on the official notification that has been issued for the reduction of the EDC?

    Thanks,
    Vishal
    Hello Cherie85,
    Good stuff.. do you have a view on the official notification that has been issued for the reduction of the EDC?

    Thanks,
    Vishal
    Hello Cherie85,
    Good stuff.. do you have a view on the official notification that has been issued for the reduction of the EDC?

    Thanks,
    Vishal
    Hello Cherie85,
    Good stuff.. do you have a view on the official notification that has been issued for the reduction of the EDC?

    Thanks,
    Vishal
    Hello Cherie85,
    Good stuff.. do you have a view on the official notification that has been issued for the reduction of the EDC?

    Thanks,
    Vishal
    Hello Cherie85,
    Good stuff.. do you have a view on the official notification that has been issued for the reduction of the EDC?

    Thanks,
    Vishal
    Hello Cherie85,
    Good stuff.. do you have a view on the official notification that has been issued for the reduction of the EDC?

    Thanks,
    Vishal
    Hello Cherie85,
    Good stuff.. do you have a view on the official notification that has been issued for the reduction of the EDC?

    Thanks,
    Vishal
    Hello Cherie85,
    Good stuff.. do you have a view on the official notification that has been issued for the reduction of the EDC?

    Thanks,
    Vishal
    Hello Cherie85,
    Good stuff.. do you have a view on the official notification that has been issued for the reduction of the EDC?

    Thanks,
    Vishal
    Hello Cherie85,
    Good stuff.. do you have a view on the official notification that has been issued for the reduction of the EDC?

    Thanks,
    Vishal
    Hello Cherie85,
    Good stuff.. do you have a view on the official notification that has been issued for the reduction of the EDC?

    Thanks,
    Vishal
    Hello Cherie85,
    Good stuff.. do you have a view on the official notification that has been issued for the reduction of the EDC?

    Thanks,
    Vishal
    Hello Cherie85,
    Good stuff.. do you have a view on the official notification that has been issued for the reduction of the EDC?

    Thanks,
    Vishal
    Hello Cherie85,
    Good stuff.. do you have a view on the official notification that has been issued for the reduction of the EDC?

    Thanks,
    Vishal
    Hello Cherie85,
    Good stuff.. do you have a view on the official notification that has been issued for the reduction of the EDC?

    Thanks,
    Vishal
    Hello Cherie85,
    Good stuff.. do you have a view on the official notification that has been issued for the reduction of the EDC?

    Thanks,
    Vishal
    Hello Cherie85,
    Good stuff.. do you have a view on the official notification that has been issued for the reduction of the EDC?

    Thanks,
    Vishal
    Hello Cherie85,
    Good stuff.. do you have a view on the official notification that has been issued for the reduction of the EDC?

    Thanks,
    Vishal
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  • Originally Posted by kuriousv
    Hello Cherie85,
    Good stuff.. do you have a view on the official notification that has been issued for the reduction of the EDC?

    Thanks,
    Vishal


    http://tcpharyana.gov.in/Public%20Notice-Revised%20EDC%20Gurgaon.pdf
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  • No, I have no view on this. I had called the ATS office a week back, they refused to share the information on EDC and IDC. I was traveling and hence did not get time. I will be following up with the Senior Manager for clarifications somewhere this week. You guys should also follow up on this issue. We should take this seriously.
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  • I visited ATS KACOON yesterday, the pace of work has slowed down considerably,, they are making my unit as show apartment. Tile work n everything looks goodhttps://api.indianrealestateforum.com/api//v0/attachments/fetch-attachment?node_id=67215https://api.indianrealestateforum.com/api//v0/attachments/fetch-attachment?node_id=67216https://api.indianrealestateforum.com/api//v0/attachments/fetch-attachment?node_id=67217https://api.indianrealestateforum.com/api//v0/attachments/fetch-attachment?node_id=67218https://api.indianrealestateforum.com/api//v0/attachments/fetch-attachment?node_id=67219https://api.indianrealestateforum.com/api//v0/attachments/fetch-attachment?node_id=67220https://api.indianrealestateforum.com/api//v0/attachments/fetch-attachment?node_id=67221
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  • Very nice pics.


    Originally Posted by aviator777
    I visited ATS KACOON yesterday, the pace of work has slowed down considerably,, they are making my unit as show apartment. Tile work n everything looks good
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  • Hi,

    Nice pics!
    Sometime in the middle of June 2015, I had mailed a marketing manager at Chintels to enquire about the likely completion date of ATS Kocoon. His reply, to my pleasant surprise, was mid-2016 (although he used the word “tentatively”). Do you think that a target completion date of mid-2016 is aggressive given the state of progress that you witnessed in your latest visit to the site?
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  • Seeing the current pace of work & completion expect completion in another 1.5-2 yrs.

    Originally Posted by ndeb2015
    Hi,

    Nice pics!
    Sometime in the middle of June 2015, I had mailed a marketing manager at Chintels to enquire about the likely completion date of ATS Kocoon. His reply, to my pleasant surprise, was mid-2016 (although he used the word “tentatively”). Do you think that a target completion date of mid-2016 is aggressive given the state of progress that you witnessed in your latest visit to the site?
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  • Dwarka Expressway, what a great place, I mean, have no word to define this location only would say it is the best destination for investment whether it be residential or commercial.
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  • :D

    Try and give us a few words. Go on. :D

    Originally Posted by Ankit031
    Dwarka Expressway, what a great place, I mean, have no word to define this location only would say it is the best destination for investment whether it be residential or commercial.
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  • Originally Posted by JethroNull
    :D

    Try and give us a few words. Go on. :D


    These days you can smell the broker from a 5 km distance :)
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  • I honestly d'ont understand how these guys survive.


    Originally Posted by JoBhiMain
    These days you can smell the broker from a 5 km distance :)
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  • Sometimes I wonder if they are really so stupid or just being cheeky.
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  • Originally Posted by researching
    Seeing the current pace of work & completion expect completion in another 1.5-2 yrs.


    Wouldn't the penalty kick-in post mid-2016?
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