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  • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

    thankyou much appreciated. We all need to i guess. That reminds me i owe a public apology to bless you with whoem i got into a very ugly spat on this forum. Though i dont really have any defence- insinuations that everybody is a broker or is foolish enough to be taken in by brokers are irritating.

    Look at it this way on the other side there are people who genuinely believe it is a good investment(my mother for one of all the people-and shes not a broker or a builder). So imagine how irritating it is to be told you are a broker or that the builder is paying you) everytime you post positive news.

    I for one am very keen to understand the litigation as that could play spoilsport.
    Last edited March 15 2012, 04:55 PM.

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    • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

      Originally posted by kamals View Post
      so does anybody know for sure there is a case pending somewhere. This seems to be the biggest negative pointed out. Lets get to the bottom of the issue and make sense of it. I am a lawyer so may be able to get further info if you give me some details.
      This is the latest post revealing condition of litigation....as you are lawyer, what are your observarions......


      Originally posted by patnapratap View Post
      As acceded, I got some useful information with the assistance of my friend this might feel it arduous to someone and request to spare me for putting brass tacks:

      • It is ratified that hearing has been impediment from last two years.
      • Huda have not filled any affidavit, even they can’t do so since first they have to follow the direction of court and accordingly supposed to eventualize the new rehabilitation package which is acceptable to everyone.
      • No dialogue or negotiation comported so far with the affected parties.
      • Around two years back Huda have issued another notice for justification of demanding claim of @77k/yd from local court. After that some residents filled another case against Huda. Since the matter is already sub-judice in high court it doesn’t make any sense.
      • Huda had awarded compensation of plot @1857/yd against the demand of 77k/yd the whooping around 41 times difference. At present the market rate of plots are in NPV and RP varying between 25k-70k depends upon the location and residential/commercial aspects.
      • One person told me that as per draft master plan the road was parallel to railway line and kept at the distance of 1200m away from the track. But from Delhi border onward the road was diverted towards the colony in new master plan and kept at 800m away. This issue was also challenged in HC and smell some treacherous, since if road have to be collinear than why unnecessary curved given at that junction, it seems deliberately eway redirected.
      • So far only notification released for 150m wide road where around more than 250 houses are getting affected alone in NPV colony. And another 84m is required for green belt and clear passage. It was hard to conjectured actual figure for total requirement but it would suppose to be around 450 houses fall.
      • None have any news of realignment and they have collected sufficient funds and formed the union to fight the case till SC.
      • If I do believe on the words of one affected local than not even a single house was constructed on disputed land. But surrounding disputed free land gets densely populated after that.

      The above may nip those are looking for earlier execution of eway but deferment seems to eventuate.
      Sab 99 ka fer hain............

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      • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

        Originally posted by kamals View Post
        thankyou much appreciated. We all need to i guess. That reminds me i owe a public apology to bless you with whoem i got into a very ugly spat on this forum. Though i dont really have any defence- insinuations that everybody is a broker or is foolish enough to be taken in by brokers is irritating.

        See on the other side there are people who genuinely believe it is a good investment(my mother for one of all the people-and shes not a broker or a builder). So imagine how irritating it is to be told you are a broker or that the builder is paying you) everytime you post positive news.

        I for one am very keen to understand the litigation as that could play spoilsport.
        Great kamals... and that is the correct logical and reasonable way forward. No one disagrees that prices have risen and are rising still, but parallely how is the litigation moving forward must also be discussed crisply as you put it.

        Lets put it this way:

        Positive: DEW has a great location advantage and once completed it may give a run for money to some other affluent gurgaon sectors. I think in hindsight everyone believes that.

        Negative: The uncertainity that gets attached by default to the DEW completion due to litigation is one of the major negative factors that needs to be deep dived. The time it takes for completion of this litigation would decide the fate of DEW. One must not say that DEW will be completed as litigation can only go in favour of DEW and there's no force to stop it.

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        • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

          this frankly looks worrying but how authentic is this. The posts on the net seem to be mixed a lot of them going so far to say that as on today no cases pending.

          What do people positive on the dway say about this. Because if indeed there is pending litigation it will probably travel all the way to the SC.

          Eventually it will probably get sorted out with higher compensation ,but these things do take time.

          These are obviously based on what somebody has posted

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            16 posts deleted due to personal feuds and off topic discussion.

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            • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

              Originally posted by kamals View Post
              this frankly looks worrying but how authentic is this. The posts on the net seem to be mixed a lot of them going so far to say that as on today no cases pending.

              What do people positive on the dway say about this. Because if indeed there is pending litigation it will probably travel all the way to the SC.

              Eventually it will probably get sorted out with higher compensation ,but these things do take time.

              These are obviously based on what somebody has posted
              From several posts and through various News Papers I have concluded the followings:

              Around 2 yr back, first authority have declared award for acquiring land and offered around 50 sqmt plot in some sectors which both outsee and HC had denied and feel inadiquate.

              Than HC had directed authority to come-up with better rehablitation package as per outsees expectation and once both parties get agreed or diagreed than accordingly court would decide further course of action till than hearing has adjourned. This matter is again around 2 year old.

              Outsee are demanding alternate plots of same size in sector 110a with construction cost of their houses.

              Now govt cant't meet this demand for several reasons.

              1. Compensating the construction cost is against govt policy and accepting the legitimacy of unauthorized strucuture.

              2. Sector 110a is already habitated and earlier govt have released notification for acquiring the land for eway outsees and against that sector 110a residents filled case against acquisition. Means authority have to first win this case and rehablitate eway outsees here. This I dont thing so going to happen.

              3. If govt meet the demand of these ghetto than another land owners who's land had already been acquired would started demanding the enhanced compensation in similar fashion or also may be another part of state.

              This is the complexity and all the information posted above are authentic and may cross check by making search in Internet where you may found several News paper published these reports

              If I do believe for some earlier posts than outsees are not ready to vacate their land and deliberately making such demands which authority cant fulfilled.
              Sab 99 ka fer hain............

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              • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

                This is how it should be looked. I for one have never said that there are no issues on dway and people should blindly make an investment. it's not the right place for investment for short term investors. It's good and in benefit for all to discuss issues and check ground progress and work together for benefit for all.

                But on the other hand, one should also understand that people who have invested will do discuss price appreciation, triggers of price appreciation and other positive things just like any other investor of any other area. Every investor feels happy for price rise of new phase, or increase in resale etc etc. Why different attitude towards eway investors and calling them names?

                I feel things will be better placed if we discuss common issues on eway thread and let investors discuss their petty things on project thread. My POV.

                Originally posted by AashishK View Post
                Lets put it this way:

                Positive: DEW has a great location advantage and once completed it may give a run for money to some other affluent gurgaon sectors. I think in hindsight everyone believes that.

                Negative: The uncertainity that gets attached by default to the DEW completion due to litigation is one of the major negative factors that needs to be deep dived. The time it takes for completion of this litigation would decide the fate of DEW. One must not say that DEW will be completed as litigation can only go in favour of DEW and there's no force to stop it.

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                • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

                  Originally posted by kamals View Post
                  thankyou much appreciated. We all need to i guess. That reminds me i owe a public apology to bless you with whoem i got into a very ugly spat on this forum. Though i dont really have any defence- insinuations that everybody is a broker or is foolish enough to be taken in by brokers are irritating.

                  Look at it this way on the other side there are people who genuinely believe it is a good investment(my mother for one of all the people-and shes not a broker or a builder). So imagine how irritating it is to be told you are a broker or that the builder is paying you) everytime you post positive news.

                  I for one am very keen to understand the litigation as that could play spoilsport.
                  Hi
                  Greetings

                  Nothing to be sorry about mate. At least you hold a character to come back and feel about it. Many out here either have none or multiple (Characters and IDs/affiliations/brokerages) like payaz ke partein!!! As they say Variety is the spice of life, yet to discover so many tastes.

                  Rather, read that you are looking for proofs about and types of litigations.. The most authentic source is the DWAY TENDER itself Dwarka Expressway Tender5 , which mentions not 1 or two and not a dozen but 16 litigations.. Govts resolution in terms of outstee rehabilitation policy https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0CW...UtGaEFydw/edit can never resolve the litigation and rest as a lawyer you know the best. (Mr Gulati went on deputation to DDA after signing this)

                  A break up of litigation's includes cases not only those by residents but also by builders as per information available. Certainly situation is bound to be irritating for many and now those invested 3 years ago have started moving consumer court seeking compensation for loss of opportunity etc..

                  This is besides other Major bottlenecks like ROB (min 4 needed to absorb the east west traffic once all 15 sectors on west side of Railway line come up). As per current HUDA performance it consumes five years from concept to execution of one ROB
                  Delhi side road connectivity is not clarified
                  Toll intersection on NH2 yet to be resolved and adamancy between Concessionaire and NHAI adding to the woes..etc etc etc..

                  Things will take, unfortunately a bit longer to crystallize something as shown in the glossy brochures and sales talk.

                  Cheers
                  Last edited March 15 2012, 10:22 PM.

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                  • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

                    Originally posted by Ram.bharose View Post

                    DEW Experts awaiting your valuable inputs on the same keeping 1 year horizon in mind.

                    -Expected RTM rates for Mahindra Aura-1 and Raheja.
                    -Expected Rental incomes for the same projects
                    Hi
                    Greetings

                    Anticipating prices in future would tantamount to speculation but given the information about a bestech project just under a km from Mahindra site you may be able to get a fair idea about price and rental value..

                    Mr Bhalla has a great information on this aspect and quoted 6500 for Bestech (clarion i think). So one can safely and most conservatively imagine 5-5.5k for Mahindra ph1 with possesions. Definitely will break out, once dway and sector connectivity to 10x improves. Also any news of underpass/ROB at crossing, will be fantastic (nothing heard till date though). Fortunately once offered may be ready for in-habitation due to existance of basic infra water, sewerage, electricity.

                    Atharva EC report would suggest about availability of Sewerage, Water, electricity and other issues but generally may unfortunately take another few years for the same as well as providing some sort of connectivity to gurgaon and/or DELHI. So your guess would be as good as mine..

                    I am sure you wont find many ATS lovers put forward their view on this

                    Cheers
                    Last edited March 16 2012, 12:08 AM.

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                    • Re : ATS Kocoon, ATS, Sector 109, Gurgaon

                      Raheja Atharva is a premature baby kept in an incubator. It will be good in 3 years time.

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