Hello!

I have been invested in the Central PArk II project in Sec 48 Sohna Road Gurgaon for the past 5 years. The first few buildings are getting ready and here are the issues with the project:

1. Access for Towers 1 to 9 and Central Vista

a. North & South Gate Entry should be accessible for all towers in order to go around the complex through peripheral Road

b. Remove Boundary Wall around Central Vista – it is not part of original layout plan

c. Underpass – to connect near Tower 1 to Tower 26 as promised in layout plan

d. Townhouses built on ground floor of towers 1 to 9 are in violation of the ABA and are also blocking access to front side of buildings.

2. Central Vista (Garden) should be immediately provided as promised

3. Clubhouse for Phase 1 should be constructed on Ground floor, location can be altered. Size should be as promised.

4. EWS Dwelling Units should be provided at the same place as shown in layout plan.

5. Calculation of Super Area – Incorrectly done to increase super area by 100+ Sq Ft

6. Provision of all infrastructures as shown in Original layout shown to buyers has not been done

8. Quality of Construction – Deficiencies to be rectified. Warranty of 1 year post possession should be honored as per contract. All seepages should be rectified and any damages due to same should be borne by CP2.

9. Escalation Charges should be refunded with interest due to delay in construction

10. Interest for delays in construction should be payable for full period for which CP2 has kept buyers money, excluding 36 months period.

11. Refund of excess Registration Charges - Owners are forced to pay extra registration charges due to delays by Builder. If registration had been done by 2008 as promised, registration charges would have been significantly lower. Increase in registration charges should be refunded by CP2

12. Penalty for delay in construction should be paid for entire 35+ month delay as per contract, not just for the 5 months for which it is being offered

13. PLC Charges should be deferred till entire construction is over. Alternatively, Builder should pay interest on the amount till construction is over.

14. Delays in Construction - Builder should provide timeline for completion of each phase of project.

15. Improvement in Services - Builder should improve their communications with buyers and attend to their individual problems constructively.

Besides this, all the new buildings are leaking and there is seepage on all walls.
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  • New kind of real estate fraud - Central Park II Gurgaon

    You must have heard of builders cheating home-wanting customers in many ways. There's delay in construction to earn extra profits, miscalculation of super area, selling before getting proper licenses, charging escalation charges without justification, not creating promised facilities, poor quality of construction to save costs etc etc. All this happens in the real estate industry, specially in Gurgaon where most companies are expected to cheat customer one way or the other.

    Central Park II in Sector 48 Sohna road has set some new benchmarks in cheating customers. Besides delaying the construction to take 7 years when it was promised in 36 months, customers are shocked to find that the "Registry" being done for their apartments itself is illegal and incorrect.

    When a builder gets a completion certificate , they need to file a Deed of Declaration with the Department of Town and Country Planning, Haryana. This deed declares all the construction that has been done, including the area built and handed over, details of roads, sewage etc in the project. The common area in the project which must be mandatory handed over to the flat owners (true owners of the entire housing colony) is also declared. Central Park II - instead of filing the deed of declaration, has gone ahead and made registry of apartment stating that whatever they file in the deed of declaration later, that would be by default applicable to the flat owners.

    Thereafter, they filed a deed of declaration showing that they have sold of portions of the promised common area! Brilliant!

    The builder had promised owners that ground floors of all buildings would be left open for clubhouse and common area (written in the Apartment Buyer Agreement). Instead, they made 2 apartments each on the ground floor, paid some compounding charges and sold off those 18 apartments, reducing the common area available to owners. By mentioning this area in the Deed of Declaration, the builder has tried to legalize this illegal sale.

    Besides this, the builder has made sure in the registry document that all common area of the project will always be their own property (so they can lease out the school, club etc). They have also forced owners to accept that maintenance charges will always be paid to the builder. The registry of apartments was done by forcing owners to sign a power of attorney in the name of someone the builder presented. Owners anyways had no choice, as the draft of the registry was prepared by the builder and owners were forced to accept it.

    Now, a legal notice has been sent to the builder and soon they will be dragged to court on this issue.

    Real estate companies in India seem to be finding innovative ways to cheat customers instead of finding ways to please them.
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  • ecxtremely sad state of affairs in CP2!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Originally Posted by sggupta
    You must have heard of builders cheating home-wanting customers in many ways. There's delay in construction to earn extra profits, miscalculation of super area, selling before getting proper licenses, charging escalation charges without justification, not creating promised facilities, poor quality of construction to save costs etc etc. All this happens in the real estate industry, specially in Gurgaon where most companies are expected to cheat customer one way or the other.

    Central Park II in Sector 48 Sohna road has set some new benchmarks in cheating customers. Besides delaying the construction to take 7 years when it was promised in 36 months, customers are shocked to find that the "Registry" being done for their apartments itself is illegal and incorrect.

    When a builder gets a completion certificate , they need to file a Deed of Declaration with the Department of Town and Country Planning, Haryana. This deed declares all the construction that has been done, including the area built and handed over, details of roads, sewage etc in the project. The common area in the project which must be mandatory handed over to the flat owners (true owners of the entire housing colony) is also declared. Central Park II - instead of filing the deed of declaration, has gone ahead and made registry of apartment stating that whatever they file in the deed of declaration later, that would be by default applicable to the flat owners.

    Thereafter, they filed a deed of declaration showing that they have sold of portions of the promised common area! Brilliant!

    The builder had promised owners that ground floors of all buildings would be left open for clubhouse and common area (written in the Apartment Buyer Agreement). Instead, they made 2 apartments each on the ground floor, paid some compounding charges and sold off those 18 apartments, reducing the common area available to owners. By mentioning this area in the Deed of Declaration, the builder has tried to legalize this illegal sale.

    The registry of apartments was done by forcing owners to sign a power of attorney in the name of someone the builder presented. Owners anyways had no choice, as the draft of the registry was prepared by the builder and owners were forced to accept it.

    Now, a legal notice has been sent to the builder and soon they will be dragged to court on this issue.

    Real estate companies in India seem to be finding innovative ways to cheat customers instead of finding ways to please them.
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  • I guess that is why DLF etc continue to get premium for their properties. They cheat, but they don't do day light robberies such as these!!!

    Pathetic...

    why don't you also reach out to the media on this. I am sure they will cover it...
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  • Homes from hell Recipe no 3, 11, 16 and 18

    Originally Posted by sggupta
    You must have heard of builders cheating home-wanting customers in many ways. There's delay in construction to earn extra profits, miscalculation of super area, selling before getting proper licenses, charging escalation charges without justification, not creating promised facilities, poor quality of construction to save costs etc etc. All this happens in the real estate industry, specially in Gurgaon where most companies are expected to cheat customer one way or the other.

    Central Park II in Sector 48 Sohna road has set some new benchmarks in cheating customers. Besides delaying the construction to take 7 years when it was promised in 36 months, customers are shocked to find that the "Registry" being done for their apartments itself is illegal and incorrect.

    When a builder gets a completion certificate , they need to file a Deed of Declaration with the Department of Town and Country Planning, Haryana. This deed declares all the construction that has been done, including the area built and handed over, details of roads, sewage etc in the project. The common area in the project which must be mandatory handed over to the flat owners (true owners of the entire housing colony) is also declared. Central Park II - instead of filing the deed of declaration, has gone ahead and made registry of apartment stating that whatever they file in the deed of declaration later, that would be by default applicable to the flat owners.

    Thereafter, they filed a deed of declaration showing that they have sold of portions of the promised common area! Brilliant!

    The builder had promised owners that ground floors of all buildings would be left open for clubhouse and common area (written in the Apartment Buyer Agreement). Instead, they made 2 apartments each on the ground floor, paid some compounding charges and sold off those 18 apartments, reducing the common area available to owners. By mentioning this area in the Deed of Declaration, the builder has tried to legalize this illegal sale.

    Besides this, the builder has made sure in the registry document that all common area of the project will always be their own property (so they can lease out the school, club etc). They have also forced owners to accept that maintenance charges will always be paid to the builder. The registry of apartments was done by forcing owners to sign a power of attorney in the name of someone the builder presented. Owners anyways had no choice, as the draft of the registry was prepared by the builder and owners were forced to accept it.

    Now, a legal notice has been sent to the builder and soon they will be dragged to court on this issue.

    Real estate companies in India seem to be finding innovative ways to cheat customers instead of finding ways to please them.


    Hi
    Greetings

    Check these receipes.. "homes from hell" this is really a sad state of affairs as there is no regulation in this industry and worst is getting a POA signed from owners at the time of registry?? what the heck..
    https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ahk_8tfSUql8dDloWnl4bXFvSjJ6TTB0Uk8taFp2bXc&hl=en&authkey=CKjfg6cD#gid=12

    You can also pursue with certain agencies mentioned in the above link in the sheet mentioned "important websites and links", including Honble Minister for Urban Development, DTCP,:bab (45): Consumer complaints, economic offences etc.. as you may deem fit
    Cheers
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  • Real estate fraud - Central Park II, Belgravia, Sector 48, Sohna Road, Gurgaon

    Hi

    I am evaluating the 1700sqft 3BHK option in Central Park 2 (Belgravia) for 5900 per sq ft on Possession linked plan (45% upfront).

    Though I have thought of my +ves and -ves about the property I would like to hear from the more experience people as to what they think about this property.

    Purpose is investment (but self use if staying in Gurgaon) because I dont know which city I would be in the short and long run.

    Thanks
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  • advantage is only the location... rest every thing has quite a few ifs....


    Originally Posted by cybervivek
    Hi

    I am evaluating the 1700sqft 3BHK option in Central Park 2 (Belgravia) for 5900 per sq ft on Possession linked plan (45% upfront).

    Though I have thought of my +ves and -ves about the property I would like to hear from the more experience people as to what they think about this property.

    Purpose is investment (but self use if staying in Gurgaon) because I dont know which city I would be in the short and long run.

    Thanks
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  • Amit Bhai, real mildly put :D.

    Originally Posted by AmitMM
    advantage is only the location... rest every thing has quite a few ifs....
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  • I have personally visited that place a month ago and I must say the sample flat was awesome. Kothi type flat.
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  • Hi Amit

    Please let me know what are the "ifs" you referred to but not mentioned it.

    Thanks

    Vivek
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  • There r 4-5 threads on this Builder/project . Look for them . U would know some of the "ifs" .
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  • hi . you can see the CP2 threads. would get lot of info and views both from ppl who have invested there and those who know about the project...
    major concern is a huge gap between what has been promised and what has been delivered so far..

    Originally Posted by cybervivek
    Hi Amit

    Please let me know what are the "ifs" you referred to but not mentioned it.

    Thanks

    Vivek
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  • Hi cybervivek,

    Well, I do not know much about Mr.Bakshi and to be honest, in my opinion, now it does not matter much who is the builder..Everyone turns out to be involved in some sort of issue and I am not surprised if Mr.Bakshi is..
    Its very difficult to decide upon a property for naive purchasers and such scandles increase our problems (if they make us aware).

    The things which should matter must be the location and a descent quality of construction. Again, every builder is going to delay the projects and its a shame that Central Park2 faces the same because it is at a pretty descent location.

    I would suggest you to go through all the positive and negative threads thoroughly, plus you should visit the site and investigate about the issues.

    Good luck.
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  • Hello cybervivek,

    I recently checked with the Central Park 2 people regarding the "issues". The whole thing was that the members of the RWA were agitated about the missing features and late completion. Well we can rule out the completion part now because everyone had hit hard because of the economic downfall but nevertheless, the work seems to be going on a good speed now(you can go and check at the sites).
    The second issue which was regarding some facilities is now attended to by Central Park people. You can check the changes being made here - http://www.centralpark.in/bellevue-upgradation.pdf

    Hopefully all the issues will be resolved now. But you should visit the site and look around for yourself.

    Cheers.
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  • Originally Posted by sudiptosen
    Hello cybervivek,

    I recently checked with the Central Park 2 people regarding the "issues". The whole thing was that the members of the RWA were agitated about the missing features and late completion. Well we can rule out the completion part now because everyone had hit hard because of the economic downfall but nevertheless, the work seems to be going on a good speed now(you can go and check at the sites).
    The second issue which was regarding some facilities is now attended to by Central Park people. You can check the changes being made here - http://www.centralpark.in/bellevue-upgradation.pdf

    Hopefully all the issues will be resolved now. But you should visit the site and look around for yourself.

    Cheers.


    See and decide: Heaven in Gurgaon :)
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