Hello all,

I am looking for a 3 BR flat in a project called Tulip Orange by Tulip Group, coming up in Sec 69 - 70 in Gurgaon.

I need some help from all of you regarding the history of Tulip Group, location and price of flats, their possession. Also shed some light on the pros and cons related to the group.

If any one has some bad or good experiences with Tulip Group, please share.

Thanks!
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  • Originally Posted by skshahi
    Thanks richaah.


    No point taking top floor and being barbecued every day. Your elec bills will be higher, the wait for the lift to get to the top floor is sometimes excruciatingly long.
    At the end of the day its your comfort that matters. You're going to be walking into a hot oven every evening when you get home.
    I'd say explore more options. And if your hell bent upon Orange tell the broker 78l is the max you will give for this property.
    Ps: You need to get something in writing from Tulip abt Terrace rights.
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  • Do you really believe anyone should buy in chd avenue 71 which is hardly 60 meters away from STP (Sewage Treatment Plant), infact the flat on STP side are hardly 100 meters from the center of treatment container itself.

    Request you to kindly elaborate how you suggest chd avenue should be a buy here?

    Originally Posted by ssent66
    you should go for chd avenue 71 in sec 71 with average price of 6000-6200 with all amenities
    main enterence from subash chowk ( under construction) presently from eldeco mainsion
    this property undervalued and in process of taking possession by owners
    its neat and clean also with big and open area in the apartments with underground parking /clubhouse /swimming pool
    as a end user best option in my view due to its better connectivity with sohana road
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  • Hi Friend,

    Please see attached snapshot which shows how close the first container of STP is from avenue (158 meters), while the campus of STP is 0 (Zero) meters from Avenue 1.

    You can also use following link on wikimapia to explore it yourself.
    Wikimapia - Let's describe the whole world!


    I also request buyers to visit the the STP (Sewate Treatment Plant) atleast once to understand what it actually feels to be in the vicinity of a STP. The impacts are not just on your electrical appliances like AC, Refrigerators but the biggest impact will be on your health which will lead to many diseases.

    I am surprise how this project will get Environment Clearance? I am also wondering what people has thought before buying into it?

    I would like to convey my sorry if this post hurts your sentiments as you have the booking in that project, but still from an end users perspective (which even an investor will be selling his property to in the end), it makes sense to make people aware. Rest is their own decisions, an informed decision is still better than an unknown surprise.


    Regards,
    Anuj



    Originally Posted by ssent66
    there are 860 premium apartments in chd avenue 71 along with quality standard construction and amenities , now as a ownership of apartment in tulip violet & chd avenue 71 i want to explain this issue
    now come to the point on stp , there are few misunderstanding regarding this issue ,this stp build is in very advance technology which is having all covered treatment plants and still working on 70 % capacity, it is approx 400 to 600 meters from chd avenue 71 ,
    due to its hygienic stranded one can not feel air pollution of any kind,
    secondly all staff belongs to stp are staying within locality as well they are planning to cover by greenery and covert in public garden,
    jmd project and unitech the residency is just adjacent to stp

    now talk about budget tulip projects compare to chd avenue 71 , there are one thousand rs gap, but as earliest subash chowk sectoral road begin it will definatly go ahead than tulip projects
    the proximity through eldeco mansion/ deepak chowk to rajeev chowk or malls and other parts are better than tulip voilet
    so stp is not at all big issue , but good point is that on correct time chd have delever a very advance open and airy socity at sector 71 but u will not get in tulip projects:bab (59):
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  • Originally Posted by anuj.mca
    Hi Friend,

    Please see attached snapshot which shows how close the first container of STP is from avenue (158 meters), while the campus of STP is 0 (Zero) meters from Avenue 1.

    You can also use following link on wikimapia to explore it yourself.
    Wikimapia - Let's describe the whole world!


    I also request buyers to visit the the STP (Sewate Treatment Plant) atleast once to understand what it actually feels to be in the vicinity of a STP. The impacts are not just on your electrical appliances like AC, Refrigerators but the biggest impact will be on your health which will lead to many diseases.

    I am surprise how this project will get Environment Clearance? I am also wondering what people has thought before buying into it?

    I would like to convey my sorry if this post hurts your sentiments as you have the booking in that project, but still from an end users perspective (which even an investor will be selling his property to in the end), it makes sense to make people aware. Rest is their own decisions, an informed decision is still better than an unknown surprise.


    Regards,
    Anuj


    Anuj ji. Fantastic elaboration. 100% agree with your views. In fact this is a real eye opener.
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  • Thanks Anuj - looking at that, I will never go for CHD. No matter how advance the technology is, it doesn't make sense to buy a home next to sewage and dump ground.

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  • This is perhaps the only Bad for CHD 71. The plant is already operational with a lot of green space. when i visited the site (have done twice) i did not even noticed the treatment plant as i visited the 1620 units from where it is not even visible. However, this can not discount the pathetic quality of product that Tulip has provided, not only Orange, but in white as well. Now a days Brokers sell ivory and purple stating that Orange and white are not of good quality but upcoming deliveries will be. There are no amenities in Tulip. Approximately half of the houses do not get direct sunlight.
    It is not fair to compare the luxury specs of CHD with Tulip orange just because both are at approximatly same price.
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  • About roof right: there is a lot of misinformation about this concept. Ask the seller if it is clearly mentioned in the agreement that you have exclusive roof rights. Generally, you may have the access, but it wont be exclusive. Moreover most probably you cannot build anything on the roof. If you build a garden also, it will be an illegal structure. Although you can have parties of course ;)

    The builders will extract every inch out of legally possible floor area. If you are getting some roof area, it will certainly reflect in your super area. For instance the top floor 2BHK will be say 300 sqft larger super area, as the builder will tell you that he is selling you roof also.

    Originally Posted by skshahi
    I am looking to buy a property in Gurgaon. My budget is 75-80 lacs. After lot of research I have understood that I can afford in New Gurgaon at this budget. Sohna Road properties were looking out of my reach. But then one of the broker offered me one apartment top floor in Tulip Orange in aroud 82 lacs. It looks attractive to me at this price with some negotiations because of its location. The only disadvantge being is that its a top floor flat. The broker was saying that in case I take this, I will have exclusive right for roof. He has even offered to put tiles at no extra cost.
    I have gone through all the post on this forum. It was quite informative. I need suggestion from seniors on some issues:
    1. Is he right about roof right to top floor owner.
    2. I heard connectivity and electricity issues are solved,. Is it correct?
    3. What can be right price for this flat? It will help me to negotiate it better.
    4. AIS,46 school bus is plying to this place or not.
    5. Do this have swimming pool and club facility?
    Thanks and regards,
    S. K. Shahi
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  • 6300 seems a bit too much for top floor. Even for a regular floor this is quite negotiable during the current circumstances.

    STP may not be so smelly as such. but it is a sore sight looking out of your windows and balconies.

    If 80 lakh means something to you, then spend some time and read IREF thoroughly. You will get better idea.



    Originally Posted by richhaah
    Tried to answer a few questions of yours. Please note top floors shd. be cheaper than market price. Also there are a number of threads on topfloors, go through them. Orange construction quality is just average.

    all the best
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  • Originally Posted by ChupaRustam
    About roof right: there is a lot of misinformation about this concept. Ask the seller if it is clearly mentioned in the agreement that you have exclusive roof rights. Generally, you may have the access, but it wont be exclusive. Moreover most probably you cannot build anything on the roof. If you build a garden also, it will be an illegal structure. Although you can have parties of course ;)

    The builders will extract every inch out of legally possible floor area. If you are getting some roof area, it will certainly reflect in your super area. For instance the top floor 2BHK will be say 300 sqft larger super area, as the builder will tell you that he is selling you roof also.


    They are giving the exclusive roof right with a door which you can lock and no one else has entry to that.
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  • Anuj, I'm an owner iof a flat in CP-II. My flat faces d open drainage in d STP. Infact on this side u get bad smell as thr r no treatment plant next to d drain unlike CHD thr only closed treatment plant n no drainage. Every1 told me that I was mad to buy on 9th floor. At d same amt 3 yrs back wld ve got me sth better. Today d price has doubled, I'm centrally connected on d Shona rd. I guess STP or no STP does not matter as long as u get all d amenities n connectivity. Look at Mumbai it has vast open dirty drainage flowing into sea. Thr r apts just next to it. Look at their prices beyond d reach of common man. If CHD is bad then CP-II & Vipul green r hopeless as residents complain of stench but nothing happened to their prices n nobody has died till now.
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  • Good for you if you can live with that. Nobody will die even living in the drain. What matters is quality of life.

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  • Hi Pumbaxl

    Is there a difference in prices between STP facing apartments in CP2 with regards to non STP facing flats?

    Also, have you experienced buyer resistance in purchasing STP facing flats?


    Originally Posted by pumbaxl
    Anuj, I'm an owner iof a flat in CP-II. My flat faces d open drainage in d STP. Infact on this side u get bad smell as thr r no treatment plant next to d drain unlike CHD thr only closed treatment plant n no drainage. Every1 told me that I was mad to buy on 9th floor. At d same amt 3 yrs back wld ve got me sth better. Today d price has doubled, I'm centrally connected on d Shona rd. I guess STP or no STP does not matter as long as u get all d amenities n connectivity. Look at Mumbai it has vast open dirty drainage flowing into sea. Thr r apts just next to it. Look at their prices beyond d reach of common man. If CHD is bad then CP-II & Vipul green r hopeless as residents complain of stench but nothing happened to their prices n nobody has died till now.
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  • Is it mentioned in the BBA that the owner will have roof right. Lock or no lock, if something is not registered on paper, it doesn't officially belong to you.

    Similar rumors were there in some Vatika floors also. But all of a sudden, now a days Vatika guys are denying the same to the horror of many people.

    Originally Posted by richhaah
    They are giving the exclusive roof right with a door which you can lock and no one else has entry to that.
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  • I have been to tulip petals sect 89 ....for the top floor entry is from inside apartment.. So no one else apart from the owner can use it ... I hope they must be following same in orange as well ...

    Originally Posted by ChupaRustam
    Is it mentioned in the BBA that the owner will have roof right. Lock or no lock, if something is not registered on paper, it doesn't officially belong to you.



    Similar rumors were there in some Vatika floors also. But all of a sudden, now a days Vatika guys are denying the same to the horror of many people.






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  • Originally Posted by ChupaRustam
    Is it mentioned in the BBA that the owner will have roof right. Lock or no lock, if something is not registered on paper, it doesn't officially belong to you.

    Similar rumors were there in some Vatika floors also. But all of a sudden, now a days Vatika guys are denying the same to the horror of many people.


    my 2 cents on this

    I am owner of a top floor flat in tulip white, the BBA says the owner will have exclusive right of the roof and nothing permanent can be constructed but I have seen people using plastic sheds etc to cover the roof. Per builder, it will also be mentioned in my sale deed at the time of registry.
    I was charged INR 100 as PLC for it.

    They have demarcated the roof area for all the 4 flats on the top floor, owners with roof rights will have keys to the roof entry door.

    Top floor may have some heating issue but if I get 1326 ft of area , which I can utilize in many ways, can have rooftop parties, night walk, barbecue, storage space and so on so forth; I am good with it.

    In peak summers, you can't survive without AC even if its not top floor so not much a difference.

    Hope it helps.
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