Hello all,

I am looking for a 3 BR flat in a project called Tulip Orange by Tulip Group, coming up in Sec 69 - 70 in Gurgaon.

I need some help from all of you regarding the history of Tulip Group, location and price of flats, their possession. Also shed some light on the pros and cons related to the group.

If any one has some bad or good experiences with Tulip Group, please share.

Thanks!
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  • First of all, I donot have any personal interest in Tulip Orange. But in a nearby project i.e. GPL Eden Heights.

    I donot think there are any resident in Tulip Orange as of now, but few are expected soon. As per my understanding there is one road which existed some time back which connects SPR (where divider ends) to Darbaripur road (between Purple and Orange), but a local who claims are land of this road as his property has dug in a way that the connectivity is lost. On papers this would eventually become a connecting road but that is when goverment aquires the land. In my knowledge Tulip and GPL are trying to have discussion with the so called owner and settle the matter.

    If this can be sorted out by some compensation from builders to the owner, we would have a proper connectivity. Though chances are dull as money demanded is not to small of a sum.


    Originally Posted by SmartAkki
    Thanks Mr. Rathore, I got to know that info. by going through a thread on SPR, and google maps later on.

    Since you also have personal interest in Tulip properties, do you have any ideas if that 500 mtrs of sandy road will get converted to a proper road anytime soon for Tulip apartments to access SPR? How are Tulip Orange residents commuting , are they taking Darbari road from inside or Badshahpur? also will it developed by the builder or by HUDA?

    Sorry for asking too many questions but anxious to know about these things as I might need to move in there once Tulip white offers possession.

    Thanks in advance.
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  • Originally Posted by himrathore
    First of all, I donot have any personal interest in Tulip Orange. But in a nearby project i.e. GPL Eden Heights.

    I donot think there are any resident in Tulip Orange as of now, but few are expected soon. As per my understanding there is one road which existed some time back which connects SPR (where divider ends) to Darbaripur road (between Purple and Orange), but a local who claims are land of this road as his property has dug in a way that the connectivity is lost. On papers this would eventually become a connecting road but that is when goverment aquires the land. In my knowledge Tulip and GPL are trying to have discussion with the so called owner and settle the matter.

    If this can be sorted out by some compensation from builders to the owner, we would have a proper connectivity. Though chances are dull as money demanded is not to small of a sum.


    That sounds depressing but let's hope for the best, thanks for responding to my queries.
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  • I know, at least you still have some time to wait for some positive news on the other hand GPL and Orange guys (I am also a part) have no time at all. We would get possession in 2-3 months and I am sure nothing much would happen by then on connectivity part.

    Originally Posted by SmartAkki
    That sounds depressing but let's hope for the best, thanks for responding to my queries.
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  • Originally Posted by himrathore
    I know, at least you still have some time to wait for some positive news on the other hand GPL and Orange guys (I am also a part) have no time at all. We would get possession in 2-3 months and I am sure nothing much would happen by then on connectivity part.


    btw I reckon, possession for Tulip Orange was started 1-2 months back.

    what what you are saying is true ,and when Tulip white offer possession in next few months, I don't think Darbaripur road will be able to sustain the traffic during office peak hours:(

    May be it too early to regret but I reckon, I should have bought EMAR MGF palm hills on NH8 rather the buying something on SPR.

    This is so frustrating, we spend so much of hard earned money and that too after paying whopping taxes ,on buying an accommodation and we don't even get basic amenities like uninterrupted power, clean water, sewer lines, roads et al.

    33% direct taxes, umpteen indirect taxes, 3.6% service tax on total flat cost, INR 275 p sqft EDC/IDC and we don't even get as basic as proper roads for commuting..that such a shame!!

    Btw what does Govt do/construct as part of EDC/IDC?

    Hope the real estate bill is implemented pronto!
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  • I understand your frustration as I am sailing in the same ship as you are, mine is a bit faster and approaching the shore soon though. But for me home buying is a long term thinking and for me SPR is a much better location inlong run then NH8, and I personally think that it is too early to loose hope. Delays are mostly because of Unitech having responsibility of developing the area. But I am sure when Tulip and GPL start actual possession and people start living, there would be preasure on government to provide roads and all. And personally I feel I would be able to live GPL in todays times as well only bottleneck being muded roads in rains.

    And for Orange Tulip has not yet obtained the OC and have only offered intimation of possession and not the actual possession. Which means they are not yet registering flats on owner's name.


    Originally Posted by SmartAkki
    btw I reckon, possession for Tulip Orange was started 1-2 months back.

    what what you are saying is true ,and when Tulip white offer possession in next few months, I don't think Darbaripur road will be able to sustain the traffic during office peak hours:(

    May be it too early to regret but I reckon, I should have bought EMAR MGF palm hills on NH8 rather the buying something on SPR.

    This is so frustrating, we spend so much of hard earned money and that too after paying whopping taxes ,on buying an accommodation and we don't even get basic amenities like uninterrupted power, clean water, sewer lines, roads et al.

    33% direct taxes, umpteen indirect taxes, 3.6% service tax on total flat cost, INR 275 p sqft EDC/IDC and we don't even get as basic as proper roads for commuting..that such a shame!!

    Btw what does Govt do/construct as part of EDC/IDC?

    Hope the real estate bill is implemented pronto!
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  • Originally Posted by himrathore
    I understand your frustration as I am selling in the same ship as you are, mine is a bit faster and approaching the shore soon though. But for me home buying is a long term thinking and for me SPR is a much better location inlong run then NH8, and I personally think that it is too early to loose hope. Delays are mostly because of Unitech having responsibility of developing the area. But I am sure when Tulip and GPL start actual possession and people start living, there would be preasure on government to provide roads and all. And personally I feel I would be able to live GPL in todays times as well only bottleneck being muded roads in rains.

    And for Orange Tulip has not yet obtained the OC and have only offered intimation of possession and not the actual possession. Which means they are not yet registering flats on owner's name.


    One can surely live in that area and people are anyway living in Badshahpur but when one spends whopping amount to take a flat in resale, they expect a better infrastructure and livable conditions:-) , and now a days people are willing to spend 80 lacs to get a flat in Tulip white but for what muddy roads; I wonder, if office cabs would pick up people from locations like these:) Sometime I feel ,Gurgaon, in the absence of basic infra, is just sitting on a reality bubble.

    Anyway, one more stupid q, can builder take the balance payment and other charges by just intimating about the possession? I am asking as there was someone, in some IREF thread, talking about builder demanding a large amount as *other charges for Tulip Orange without giving an OC?


    hmm, Even Tulip white people cust care is saying the same that once registration of flats starts happening, Govt will be under pressure to develop infrastructure and; moreover there's nothing much we can do , at this point in time, apart from finding solace in each other stories and looking for silver lining in our investments:)
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  • Very valid thought process and a valid question as well regarding raising demand, you know these days builders are too smart and want to cash out every possible weak point. Now what Tulip has done is, they have not bounded any one to pay the demand but who pays early gets house early as finishing would start for the flats where demand is been paid. They have successfully implemented there plan to reap out on early possession weakness of many buyers, though they can only bound buyers to pay when they get OC.

    Originally Posted by SmartAkki
    One can surely live in that area and people are anyway living in Badshahpur but when one spends whopping amount to take a flat in resale, they expect a better infrastructure and livable conditions:-) , and now a days people are willing to spend 80 lacs to get a flat in Tulip white but for what muddy roads; I wonder, if office cabs would pick up people from locations like these:) Sometime I feel ,Gurgaon, in the absence of basic infra, is just sitting on a reality bubble.

    Anyway, one more stupid q, can builder take the balance payment and other charges by just intimating about the possession? I am asking as there was someone, in some IREF thread, talking about builder demanding a large amount as *other charges for Tulip Orange without giving an OC?


    hmm, Even Tulip white people cust care is saying the same that once registration of flats starts happening, Govt will be under pressure to develop infrastructure and; moreover there's nothing much we can do , at this point in time, apart from finding solace in each other stories and looking for silver lining in our investments:)
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  • Originally Posted by himrathore
    Very valid thought process and a valid question as well regarding raising demand, you know these days builders are too smart and want to cash out every possible weak point. Now what Tulip has done is, they have not bounded any one to pay the demand but who pays early gets house early as finishing would start for the flats where demand is been paid. They have successfully implemented there plan to reap out on early possession weakness of many buyers, though they can only bound buyers to pay when they get OC.


    Thanks but just need a little more clarification, lets says if I get a demand letter from builder for last 5% and other charges to be paid within a stipulated time frame.

    And if I don't pay that in the absence of an OC, will they charge me interest on the delayed payment?
    And they are saying that once the payment is done from the buyers end and the finishing of the flat is done, registry will still take 2-3 more months as it takes time to get an appointment for the same.does that mean flat will lie unoccupied for those 2-3 months.

    Anyway, whats the scene with GPL, are they offering OC at the time of possession?
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  • Originally Posted by himrathore
    I understand your frustration as I am selling in the same ship as you are, mine is a bit faster and approaching the shore soon though. But for me home buying is a long term thinking and for me SPR is a much better location inlong run then NH8, and I personally think that it is too early to loose hope. Delays are mostly because of Unitech having responsibility of developing the area. But I am sure when Tulip and GPL start actual possession and people start living, there would be preasure on government to provide roads and all. And personally I feel I would be able to live GPL in todays times as well only bottleneck being muded roads in rains.

    And for Orange Tulip has not yet obtained the OC and have only offered intimation of possession and not the actual possession. Which means they are not yet registering flats on owner's name.


    Sir, kindly explain the bold part.
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  • As per my discussions with GPL, they would not put any last payment date on such letter. And this would not be the last letter as well, they would be sending one more actual letter of possession which would have last payment date. So there would be no late payment charges if you decide to pay last demand at the time of possession but you would get your house at the last priority.

    I think same should be applicable to Orange.

    Originally Posted by SmartAkki
    Thanks but just need a little more clarification, lets says if I get a demand letter from builder for last 5% and other charges to be paid within a stipulated time frame.

    And if I don't pay that in the absence of an OC, will they charge me interest on the delayed payment?
    And they are saying that once the payment is done from the buyers end and the finishing of the flat is done, registry will still take 2-3 more months as it takes time to get an appointment for the same.does that mean flat will lie unoccupied for those 2-3 months.

    Anyway, whats the scene with GPL, are they offering OC at the time of possession?
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  • As per my information patch of SPR from Sohna road to the houses obstructing SPR including sector roads is Unitech's responsibility. And in compensation they have got waver of EDC payment to government for their housing projects in the area.

    Similarly from House obstructing SPR to NH8 responsibility is shared by DLF with same compensation on offer. Which they have managed to develop as well.

    Originally Posted by miketest
    Sir, kindly explain the bold part.
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    Seems to be a serious concern there specially with Tulip.........as they had initiated offer for possession mid FEB2013...... and yet has not even informed about registry process ....... even to surprise their concern team are not aware .... at what value registry would take place like rate of builder, re sale price ....& what is the circle rate ....is also a unanswered question from their side ..
    they had asked for Rs. 50 psf more EDC/IDC ........where as no basic infrastructure being done.........like electircity, water , PNG, Seaverage, roads etc.
    to my understanding without a completion certificate how can builder offer for possession and ask for whopping money ? ...........pls give your inputs !
    even scheduled possession for IVORY and WHITE is also due by Dec 13 or Mar14..........which is going to be delayed accordingly.........

    WE ARE NEARLY 1500 TO 2000 FLAT OWNER NEARING POSSESSION (TW, TO, TI & GPL)......... BUT HELPLESS........WAITING FOR THINGS TO HAPPERN...... NO UNITED EFFORTS TOWARDS THE SAME IS SEEN.....!!!
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  • Originally Posted by himrathore
    As per my information patch of SPR from Sohna road to the houses obstructing SPR including sector roads is Unitech's responsibility. And in compensation they have got waver of EDC payment to government for their housing projects in the area.

    Similarly from House obstructing SPR to NH8 responsibility is shared by DLF with same compensation on offer. Which they have managed to develop as well.


    is there a way to check if your info is true?
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  • RTI might help you give accurate information, though I am pretty confident on the source of my information.

    Originally Posted by gvipin
    is there a way to check if your info is true?
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  • Originally Posted by himrathore
    As per my discussions with GPL, they would not put any last payment date on such letter. And this would not be the last letter as well, they would be sending one more actual letter of possession which would have last payment date. So there would be no late payment charges if you decide to pay last demand at the time of possession but you would get your house at the last priority.

    I think same should be applicable to Orange.


    thats still sound some reasonable and I check with one another real-estate expert and as per him, its the normal modus operandi of builders in GGN where they just offer possession intimation and stat finishing etc only when full payment is made.

    One concern is that we will have to wait for 3 months to get our turn for registry even after
    paying the entire amount to builder, could we do the registry on our own to get the actual possession of our flat quickly.

    And another concern is extra demand for IDC/EDC, does the entire amount goes to Govt or only the EDC part? if yes, how do we know how much builder is keeping with himself as IDC and what goes to Govt?

    And an absolutely offtrack q mr Rathore? what do you think the rental rate for a 3 BHK flat at tulip-W by end of this year-2013?
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