Heard DLF is coming up with another residential project in New Gurgaon to be priced at ~Rs5500psf.

Not sure whether it will be an extension of Regal towers or a completely new one...... Any clues?
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  • Originally Posted by abc111
    One of the members was ready to sell about to RTM Raheja for on Deway for 4.5K.

    Look at one of the sticky thread- A lot of deway projects come there as there are hardly any end users on that stretch.

    DLF RG investors are stuck.
    They are not even able to recover the Bank's interest.

    And then Ultima was a flop show.

    Pharaohs of DLF are facing quite a tough time in their own fiefdom.

    T



    in any project, if you want to exit in 1year... you will feel stuck,,, RE is not the game of punters,

    palm garden.. was not gave any return in its 1st year,,

    M3m woodshire is giving only 200/[ after 1 year,,

    godrej summit booked at 5300../ you can get it at 5300-5500,,

    now a days.. you can make money in RE only in 3+ year holding period,,
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  • Originally Posted by rahul40
    in any project, if you want to exit in 1year... you will feel stuck,,, RE is not the game of punters,

    palm garden.. was not gave any return in its 1st year,,

    M3m woodshire is giving only 200/
    1 year,,

    godrej summit booked at 5300../ you can get it at 5300-5500,,

    now a days.. you can make money in RE only in 3+ year holding period,,

    If the rates are not going to increase;
    Isn't it better to build the corpus of down payment and buy after 3 years when a lot of RTM inventory would be in the market and execution risk would be minimized.

    If the rates are not going to increase;
    Isn't it better to build the corpus of down payment and buy after 3 years when a lot of RTM inventory would be in the market and execution risk would be minimized.
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  • Originally Posted by abc111
    If the rates are not going to increase;
    Isn't it better to build the corpus of down payment and buy after 3 years when a lot of RTM inventory would be in the market and execution risk would be minimized.


    when i telling you, that only 3+ year will make you profit.. then how can ou expect that rate wont increase and you will opt to buy at completion, i think you are thinking that ppl are fool waiting for 5 years,,

    one of my uncle booked Unitech fresco in nirvana country , sec 50 ggn.. in Nov 2005 at total cost of 48lac( 1629sqft) 3bhk,,

    and paid all money in 2008...

    now he gets possession letter with 5( Rs 5/ per sqft per month for 5y) lac delay penalty from unitech
    the current mkt rate for his unit is 1.55cr to 1.60cr in T-10

    Unitech is wrost is delivering... even then, ppl are making 3 times profit in 7 years, because of this poor... other wise it should be atleast 2cr



    this is real meaning of RE
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  • The case is till in COMPAT and people reach to the conclusion early without knowing the details of the case.

    The clauses in TATA are the one in DLF so that is what they are all same....

    Originally Posted by abc111
    That is why DLF has got 600 crore penalty from CCI.

    What are the abusive clauses in TATA Projects?
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  • Agreed......

    Builders excersise to keep the punters away from the projects is paying them off.... Whether it was godrej, tata, adani or DLF the lockin clause to some may seem abusive has really stopped punters from entering these projects.... Now punter are left with ERA, microteck and other options only

    Originally Posted by rahul40
    in any project, if you want to exit in 1year... you will feel stuck,,, RE is not the game of punters,

    palm garden.. was not gave any return in its 1st year,,

    M3m woodshire is giving only 200/
    1 year,,

    godrej summit booked at 5300../ you can get it at 5300-5500,,

    now a days.. you can make money in RE only in 3+ year holding period,,
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  • Just ask this question to yourself after 3 years, when you wont get anything below 15000..... And then possibly you would understand about the term investment......

    Investment model anywhere quotes line:
    Higher risks yeild higher margins...
    Lower risks yeild lower margins...

    Better put money in bank with 3 year FD and then try to buy the property using the matured FD amount.....


    Originally Posted by abc111
    If the rates are not going to increase;
    Isn't it better to build the corpus of down payment and buy after 3 years when a lot of RTM inventory would be in the market and execution risk would be minimized.
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  • Originally Posted by rahul40
    when i telling you, that only 3+ year will make you profit.. then how can ou expect that rate wont increase and you will opt to buy at completion, i think you are thinking that ppl are fool waiting for 5 years,,

    one of my uncle booked Unitech fresco in nirvana country , sec 50 ggn.. in Nov 2005 at total cost of 48lac( 1629sqft) 3bhk,,

    and paid all money in 2008...

    now he gets possession letter with 5( Rs 5/ per sqft per month for 5y) lac delay penalty from unitech
    the current mkt rate for his unit is 1.55cr to 1.60cr in T-10

    Unitech is wrost is delivering... even then, ppl are making 3 times profit in 7 years, because of this poor... other wise it should be atleast 2cr



    this is real meaning of RE


    48 lac to 1.5 crore is just 3 times increase.

    If he had bought plot in 2005 of 50 lacs; he would have been sitting on a property of 3-4 crores.

    Last decade had seen a massive bull rally in Indian real estate.
    When the tide turns up; it lifts all boats along with it.

    Coming years would most probably see stagnation as happened in 1996-2002 since end users has been completely priced out of the market.

    Market has not crashed till now because of the Debt Binge going on.
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  • And these overpriced DLF projects with escalation clause are having a good probability of being big duds.

    If someone is so keen on DLF; why not buy DLF NTH around 4200-4500 at similar location.
    DLF has lost its brand premium and NTH resale is clear example of that.

    How long can Underwriters and Financiers hold the market?
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  • Some abc cant decide the value of DLF....... Actualy some people cant absorb the rates the property has reached and Angoor khatey hain is a story with most on IREF....

    When we cat afford it why should we not start crticizing it... Might be the rates fall aur the angoor fall a bit below and the wolf is able to eat the same......

    But one doesnt understand the tree is gonna only grow and grow..... As with skycourt the name defines sky is the limit....

    Originally Posted by abc111
    And these overpriced DLF projects with escalation clause are having a good probability of being big duds.

    If someone is so keen on DLF; why not buy DLF NTH at 4200-4500 at similar location.
    DLF has lost its brand premium and NTH resale is clear example of that.

    How long can Underwriters and Financiers hold the market?
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  • Originally Posted by samanu1986
    Some abc cant decide the value of DLF....... Actualy some people cant absorb the rates the property has reached and Angoor khatey hain is a story with most on IREF....

    When we cat afford it why should we not start crticizing it... Might be the rates fall aur the angoor fall a bit below and the wolf is able to eat the same......

    But one doesnt understand the tree is gonna only grow and grow..... As with skycourt the name defines sky is the limit....


    Itna agitated mat ho...

    Pate par Lat Lag rahi hai kya???

    BAKRA Katne Ko Nahin Mil Rahen Hai aur Bhukh Bahut Lagi hai....
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  • No doubt DLF NTH is making more and more sense with each big shot launch from DLF, an dits resale has definietly exposed DLF market value, else DLF property so near to possesion and still far behind from same time launches from small builders makes no sense.

    Originally Posted by abc111
    And these overpriced DLF projects with escalation clause are having a good probability of being big duds.

    If someone is so keen on DLF; why not buy DLF NTH around 4200-4500 at similar location.
    DLF has lost its brand premium and NTH resale is clear example of that.

    How long can Underwriters and Financiers hold the market?
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  • abc yaar ,, z tak toh padh liye hotey.... fir kar di na gawaron wali bhasha shuru......

    Kam se kam forum ko toh baksh diya karo....

    Originally Posted by abc111
    Itna agitated mat ho...

    Pate par Lat Lag rahi hai kya???

    BAKRA Katne Ko Nahin Mil Rahen Hai aur Bhukh Bahut Lagi hai....
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  • another bubble burst thread
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  • Originally Posted by krishna99
    Arun, One correction...
    Promised delivery period as per BBA is 5 years.. so officially 5 years and you can add another 2-3 years above that.


    Thanks Krishna, so that makes numbers look worse.

    The point that I am trying to make here is that the completed property is giving much more value at lower risk vs upcoming new properties with escalation clauses.
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  • Originally Posted by samanu1986
    Arun ji,

    Seems people is more captured by baba's giving gyan rather then real investment..... I learned from my expereince on IREF just listen to baba's for pros and cons but just dont follow them..... Else you will end up doing nothing and prices shooting from 3000 to 11000 now DEW......

    Such gyani people where there who quoted that DEW will not cross 4000 in next 2 years and see 1 year and the price is touching 11000.....


    You are right, Suno sabki karo manki!

    But just please SUNO SABKI with ZERO biases and then KARO MANKI with a balanced and informed head!!


    Just to reiterate, All that my analysis tells here is that the completed/RTM properties are giving much more value at lower risk vs upcoming new properties with escalation clauses.

    Believe it or not, the premium for a new property vs U/c is an exception in Gurgaon market only and you should read the implications (you decide if it is good or bad) before plunging ahead.
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