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  • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

    Arrey Bhai,

    Proposed "Smart city of Modiji" is of 50-60 acres.. a big C.

    Why waste time in these useless discussions?

    Delhi will have country's first 'smart city' - The Times of India

    Shubh Ratri.
    Last edited by matrix_55; January 3 2015, 11:09 PM.

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    • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

      Originally posted by matrix_55 View Post
      Arrey Bhai,

      Proposed "Smart city of Modiji" is of 50-60 acres.. a big C.

      Why waste time in these useless discussions?

      Delhi will have country's first 'smart city' - The Times of India

      Shubh Ratri.

      Dude, even i was reading that article. However there are conflicting pieces of info

      TOI quotes 20-24 hectares
      Bala posted a clip which said 20000-24000 hectares with each city being the size of dwarka

      If what you say is correct, then indeed there is nothing to worry about

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      • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

        20-24k hectares is the total land pooling area.

        Yes, one should be be discussing that. Not smart city BS.

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        • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

          NPR (Northern Peripheral Road)/ Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon updates

          News report also says 2mn flats

          I think TOI missed the 'k' after 20 and 24
          Last edited by ashu_sharmaa; January 3 2015, 11:36 PM.

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          • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

            Originally posted by ashu_sharmaa View Post
            News report also says 2mn flats

            I think TOI missed the 'k' after 20 and 24
            Smart City - Big BS on postage stamp area which makes no difference to Delhi RE.

            Land Pooling - Big Area, market driven, ability to make dent in the Delhi RE.

            60 acres is the size of Amity university in Noida. If you want to call it city, megapolis or xyz its purely motor mouthing. Nothing new considering where it is coming from.

            back of envelope calci =

            Land Pooling = 20-25k Hectates is serious business... = 50-60k acres... 1 acre = 100 flats = 50,000x 100 = 5 million possible

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            • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

              Originally posted by matrix_55 View Post
              Arrey Bhai,

              Proposed "Smart city of Modiji" is of 50-60 acres.. a big C.

              Why waste time in these useless discussions?

              Delhi will have country's first 'smart city' - The Times of India

              Shubh Ratri.
              Smart cities are typically just a group of high rise buildings.

              One giant office building like the world trade center twin towers bombed in 9/ 11 would be a typical example. They had metro in the basement and were a massive integrated building with offices shops supermarkets hotels and penthouses on different floors.

              Its now replaced by a single tower which is also a smart city. It has world one tower. Single building with 3 million square feet of space.

              That is close to the total commercial space added in whole of Gurgaon or Chennai in one year. Much more than yearly increments of office space in whole Delhi or NOIDA.

              That building (world one) occupies about 15 acres.

              Smart city is just a giant skyscraper or group of them with integrated metro and a taxi rank system on the ground floor.

              Communication facility is world class.
              Last edited by Venkytalks; January 4 2015, 03:05 AM.
              Venky (Please read watch a or before posting)

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              • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

                from DDA's announcement it sounds like the smart city concept has already been scaled down to size of DLF Garden City in 9x sector or even smaller like a Magarpatta city in Pune....

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                • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

                  May be DDA shud make a beginning by making Vikas Minar as a *smart city*

                  Right now it doesn't even have enough parking, potable water and basic signage to help people go around .... pathetic state of affairs if anyone has visited them

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                  • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

                    Originally posted by Magadh_Pride View Post
                    from DDA's announcement it sounds like the smart city concept has already been scaled down to size of DLF Garden City in 9x sector or even smaller like a Magarpatta city in Pune....
                    Magadh Ji - Its a TOI error, they have missed the K (thousands). If you read the MPD 2011 document, it refers to the urbanisation clusters measuring to 20-24K hectares, called urban extensions in L Zones, exactly the 3 areas of Dwarka, Rohini and Narela. The fact that they are calling it a sub-city when clarifying the "smart city" speaks volumes. DDA calls Dwarka and Rohini as Sub-cities. They are also saying that the land for smart city will be acquired through land pooling. they certainly dont need land pooling get 60-80 acres.

                    The actual "Smart-city" that Venky describes (the likes of WTC or Burj) is referrred to as TOD's (transit oriented development) in the UTTIPEC's guidelines. Which also is being planned in Dwarka Sec 10 and Karkardooma (110 storied building, metro, markets, hotel etc.).

                    I have zero faith in DDA being able to raise even a good quality MIG flat, let alone a smart city. But just to clarify the planners are indeed looking at 20000-24000 hectares pooled in from rural lands, in these 3 smart cities. Its a nightmare of urbanisation if done in the usual indian way, ie. with no regard for future power/water/sanitation/clean air/transportation/safety requirements.

                    But there is a silver lining in the fact that civil society groups have a stronger voice now, social media, press and internet have made it difficult for gaffes to go unnoticed. common people are more intereseted and empowered to participate in planning and development efforts and this movement can gather momemtum with parternships with Barcelona or singapore groups. Despite all this I will not put it beyond our politicians to mess with our environment for short term political or financial gains which will leave a life long scars.
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                    • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

                      On a separate note while we are debating whether smart cities plan that unlocks land for residential growth will affect or kill the DEW/NPR or even the entire gurgaon, Noida or NCR RE markets, my hunch is that people who will be really worried are the current Dwarka/Janakpuri/Rajouri/Rohini areas folks, who are sitting in small 2BHks and 3 BHK valued at 1.5-2 crs. in ares with no parking or planned civic ameneties and traffic chaos. So if at all the smart cities sound a death knell to RE markets, it will be Delhi to start with. So there will be enough motivation within Delhi RE market to release inventory in moderation.

                      So the bylines will be "DDA Building Smart Cities - consume responsibly"

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