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  • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

    Originally posted by verma29 View Post
    First of all you are comparing wrong projects with each other.

    M3M Golf Estate is a super luxury project where current resale prices are 9000 to 10000 psf and Ats Kocoon is
    luxury appartment. Both have different specifications.

    You can compare Golf Estate with Diplomatic Greens or Emrald Bay.

    FYI Ats Kocoon current resale price are 5500 to 6000 psf. After 5 years Kocoon rate will be 12,000 to 13,000 psf.

    Golf Course Extension road stars from Rs 4000 psf and current resale prices are Rs 8000 to 10000 psf.

    Once Dew will be operational rates will be equivalent to Golf Course Road in next 5 years.
    You will not see greater increment of prices around Golf Course extension road.
    Verma Sir,

    You said expect >20% CAGR on ATS Kocoon. Using 6,000 as base and applying 20% CAGR, we arrive at 14,929 in five years. Pure maths! Now you are saying 12,000 to 13,000 psf. I hope you get down to 10,000 psf in a few more posts and get at least realistic. Optimism is good but irrational exuberance is not.

    I am not doing an apples to apples comparison with ATS Kocoon and M3M Golf Estate. All I'm saying is; an above average project and a premium project will always maintain a price gap. If Kocoon reaches 15k, expect 22k-25k for Golf Estate to maintain that gap. If both are priced similar, why would anyone buy Kocoon?

    Again, I am not expecting either of the above to come true in five years unless Rupee depreciates to 90-100 or we really do very well with GDP.

    Regards,
    S
    Last edited by sourabhv; June 28 2015, 10:22 PM.

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    • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

      So, Golf Course Road would be 12-13 k after 5 years?

      Honestly, good luck!


      Originally posted by verma29 View Post
      First of all you are comparing wrong projects with each other.

      M3M Golf Estate is a super luxury project where current resale prices are 9000 to 10000 psf and Ats Kocoon is
      luxury appartment. Both have different specifications.

      You can compare Golf Estate with Diplomatic Greens or Emrald Bay.

      FYI Ats Kocoon current resale price are 5500 to 6000 psf. After 5 years Kocoon rate will be 12,000 to 13,000 psf.

      Golf Course Extension road stars from Rs 4000 psf and current resale prices are Rs 8000 to 10000 psf.

      Once Dew will be operational rates will be equivalent to Golf Course Road in next 5 years.
      You will not see greater increment of prices around Golf Course extension road.

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      • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

        We have differing opinions and let's leave it at that.



        Originally posted by verma29 View Post
        When I agreed with you on the point of social infra of Dwarka that means all the necessary requirements will be fulfilled within sub city.

        It doesnot mean cinema hall is there.
        I am pointing out since beginning where is the cinema hall & hospitals?

        Few people comment here for the sake of downgrade of Dew. You can comment anything it's a democratic country but comments with proper back up and source proofs only.

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        • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

          Originally posted by verma29 View Post
          1) Ats Kocoon (5500 -6000 )
          2) Heritage Max (5100 -5400)
          3) Diplomatic Greens (7600 - 8200)
          4) Windchants (6000 - 6800)
          5) Golf Avenue (4700 - 5100)
          6) Emrald Bay (7250 - 7400 )
          7) Aura (5200 - 6000)
          8) Heartsong (5000 - 5500 )
          Ur logic is flawed mate ..

          Gold avenue which Is at apprx 5000 should reach at 12450 for 20% CAGR ; not possible if it turns out to be true ; God save peole who did not buy on GCX.. I do not see victory velley one of the best in NCR ; reaching 15000 from 8000 it is today..

          Who will go and buy on DEW And that too golf avenue ..

          Not realistic and not on logic based ...

          so my question is still unanswered about DEW giving this much return .. I do get into this calculations because I do not beleive in RE if it is not giving CAGR less than 20%

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          • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

            Originally posted by verma29 View Post
            1) Ats Kocoon (5500 -6000 )
            2) Heritage Max (5100 -5400)
            3) Diplomatic Greens (7600 - 8200)
            4) Windchants (6000 - 6800)
            5) Golf Avenue (4700 - 5100)
            6) Emrald Bay (7250 - 7400 )
            7) Aura (5200 - 6000)
            8) Heartsong (5000 - 5500 )
            someone forgot to ADD, almost RTM :

            Lumbini Terrace Homes in Sec 109 : 5000- 5200 PSF.

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            • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

              Originally posted by RAMRATAN74 View Post
              someone forgot to ADD, almost RTM :

              Lumbini Terrace Homes in Sec 109 : 5000- 5200 PSF.

              This is the list where gentleman things one can achieve more than 20% CAGR in a span of 5 years

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              • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

                Originally posted by verma29 View Post
                1) Ats Kocoon (5500 -6000 )
                2) Heritage Max (5100 -5400)
                3) Diplomatic Greens (7600 - 8200)
                4) Windchants (6000 - 6800)
                5) Golf Avenue (4700 - 5100)
                6) Emrald Bay (7250 - 7400 )
                7) Aura (5200 - 6000)
                8) Heartsong (5000 - 5500 )

                Hahaha, Complete BULLSHIT what DEW promoters are trying hard to propagate.

                Diplomatic green 7600-8200? TRUTH> lotta distress sales at 6900-7000 but NO BUYER.

                Kocoon 6000? TRUTH> 5000-5200, just 1-2 transactions in MONTHS that too at what price final deal takes place only buyer & broker knows the best.

                Heartsong people bought it at 5500, distress sales at 5k still no one is interested

                &

                MOST FUNNY was EMERALD BAY 7250-7400? LOOOL LOL in recent IRFS sale puri offered 20:80 scheme at 7450 which TOTALLY FLOPPED so in what world EMERALD BAY IS SELLING AT 7400?

                Just to tell you guys, MOST of the people on this DEW THREAD are BROKERS( although I don't have any grudges against them,its their JOB but fooling people for just 1% commission NOT COOL) who in no time sends a personal message if they see anyone showing interest (don't want to name anyone though)

                Kyu VERMA JI kuch galat bola maina? )

                What's happening in this thread is just SPECULATION.

                YE HO JAYEGA
                WO HO JAYEGA
                AB ho JAYEGA, KAL ho JAYEGA.

                but isn't the same thing was said 5-7 years ago? & if someone can go to an extent of saying the above mentioned properties can give 20% CAGR in next 5 years LOL then GOD HELP BROKERS of DEW they surely must be in a dismal situation due to downtrend in RE.
                Last edited by khurafati; June 29 2015, 12:18 AM.

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                • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

                  Originally posted by doobti View Post
                  This is the list where gentleman things one can achieve more than 20% CAGR in a span of 5 years
                  This might be a place where 5000 goes to 6500 = 30% jump in 2 years as DEW completes.

                  Whereas SPR similar project stays at 6500 as at present.

                  20% CAGR is impossible from property unless bought at the start of bull run and sold within 3 years.

                  12 to 14% over 15 + years is more realistic return.

                  17% if bought well.

                  20% CAGR if bought well (post end of bear phase and beginning of bull phase) AND sold well (end of 2nd bull phase after 14 years or end of 3rd bull phase after 21 years).
                  Venky (Please read watch a or before posting)

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                  • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

                    Venky beleive me with 12-14% ; 90% of business class is out because so many avenue are there where one get 12-15% return . It is a normal practice in business

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                    • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

                      Venky too much speculation need to be considered if some one looks for 30% gain in 2 years ... Very few can take it and like I am really not convinced that any property can jump 30% in any part of NCR in next 2 years ..

                      It might be completely wrong if market takes upwards movement but atleast I do not see it coming for 2-3 years

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