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  • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

    Originally posted by vinaybhatia View Post
    This is the bottom-line.
    First they said..investors will loose money, when price was ~3000
    Then.. It's all paper profit.. will stop at 4000
    Then.. at 5000+.. bech ke to dikhayo fir jane..
    Then.. investor made money.. but what about poor end users( who BTW are so insane that they take advice of this forum only and invest their hard earned money. )
    True that early investors have made good money but DEW delay is impacting both end users and investors. Even as investor you want this issue to be resolved soon so that you get more profit. No smart investor will say that he is fine with delay as price has appreciated by some percentage. let me gv some examples frm my aquaintances-

    1. Investor in Godrej - happy with it. will most likely remian happy with it
    2. Investor in Sidhart Estella - Satisfied. doesnt care too much abt DEW. kind of carefree
    3. Investor ERA - was happy initially as got good appreciation but now bit concerned due to delay and may be coz market is not moving upwards by same speed or may be stagnated
    4. End user Ramprastha - Initial contrtn speed from builder was good but now disappointed mainly coz DEW is delayed. thinks tht location will take much more time to become habitable than what he earlier expected.
    5. BPTP end user on DEW. paying rent n EMI

    Many ppl have made money but these delays are impacting end users and too some extent investors also. In the end DEW will be a reality but it is always better to explore few things like - are the current rates justified (only supporting reasons I hv is RE bull run in past esp GGN and the prices big companies are coming up with on DEW), is it going to be superb location? If yes, why. I believe that it will take 8-10 yrs minimum to come in the same league of existing posh GGN area whereas some ppl are claiming that it will become the best in NCR etc.
    I am thinking more from end use perspective - dont think DEW will be at par with exisitng MG road, GC area even after 10 years. Need someone to explain if I am wrong.
    BTW, whats the status of diplomatic enclave in dwarka - embassies shifted or is the place under constrn. I believe thats one of the main selling point

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    • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

      Originally posted by abhay View Post
      to abc111 and ultachakri u r saying sector roads are not there see photos posted by bessu ji
      thanks to blessu ji
      When did I say sector roads are not coming up?

      I was mostly talking about ROB,Delhi side connectivity and problems with this particular alignment.

      And even Deway may turn out to be just another sector road beginning and ending nowhere.

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      • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

        Couldn't have said it better Vinay...

        Originally posted by vinaybhatia View Post
        This is the bottom-line.
        First they said..investors will loose money, when price was ~3000
        Then.. It's all paper profit.. will stop at 4000
        Then.. at 5000+.. bech ke to dikhayo fir jane..
        Then.. investor made money.. but what about poor end users( who BTW are so insane that they take advice of this forum only and invest their hard earned money. )

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        • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

          Highlighting the Good projects while ignoring loads of others where people are stuck has been a persistent argument.

          As a proportion; the number of stuck projects are pretty high in Dwarka Expressway when compared to other areas like GCX because of less presence of end users on deway and the resultant liquidity issues.

          Any investment in any region of Gurgaon in 2010-11 has given returns.
          The returns have been phenomenal in GCX,SPR,NH8 and Deway all alike.

          What Deway end users has lost out is on OPPORTUNITY COST.
          Such end users could have got a home by next year in other areas but in Deway there are just concrete structures in the middle of nowhere.

          When the Tide is rising;it lifts all the boats along with it.
          When it turns;then we would see who was swimming naked.

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          • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

            Now that we all know its min. 3 years.. may(will) take long..would like expert to comment of possibilities of habitations around this area i.e. where and when. We might see DEW as a sector road before that on that. So what does our expert say about the habitation possibilities in the DEW streach by early 2014. Bhalla ji, BlessU ji Ulti Bhai,abc and everyone...

            Personally speaking I am an end user of Edge tower Ramprastha. I was paited a rosy picture of DEW since it is abt 150 from DEW and was impressed with the location. However thought that litigation and NH8 would be sorted in a couple of years when I bought the same in 2010. But things stands as it. RP guys are claiming that possession will be given by the end of this year. But not sure will this area be liveable by then ????????

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            • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

              Originally posted by prabkalra View Post
              Now that we all know its min. 3 years.. may(will) take long..would like expert to comment of possibilities of habitations around this area i.e. where and when. We might see DEW as a sector road before that on that. So what does our expert say about the habitation possibilities in the DEW streach by early 2014. Bhalla ji, BlessU ji Ulti Bhai,abc and everyone...

              Personally speaking I am an end user of Edge tower Ramprastha. I was paited a rosy picture of DEW since it is abt 150 from DEW and was impressed with the location. However thought that litigation and NH8 would be sorted in a couple of years when I bought the same in 2010. But things stands as it. RP guys are claiming that possession will be given by the end of this year. But not sure will this area be liveable by then ????????
              Ramprastha would be livable as soon as the possession is offered as it is on the same side of the railway line as existing Gurgaon.

              Moreover it may be easier as there is existing infrastructure of sector 9 and 10.

              Approach road to the project was an issue; if that is sorted out it would be livable.

              Ramprastha people need Hero Honda Chowk underpass much more than deway. Otherwise its quite scary to drive on near Honda Chowk with people coming in from all directions.

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              • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

                Originally posted by rashpalsingh
                Abc111,
                You mean to say Ramprastha side they can live with out Dew.
                I am just asking because I have never been to that area I just saw on map.
                Most probably yes; but quality of life may not be very good as it is quite near to industrial area and the railway line.

                It is not dependent on the railway over bridge as it is on the same side as the existing Gurgaon and there is some existing infrastructure in adjoining sectors 9 and 10 ; so would be livable whenever the possession is offered.


                Ramprastha would be quite decent as far as living is concerned whenever Hero Honda Chowk UnderPass is made.

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                • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

                  Originally posted by vinaybhatia View Post
                  Bhallaji.. Chintels ke din yaad hain aapko. When the investors were very few and bashers were in high numbers.

                  Facts don't change . As to why, Chintels were targeted is very clear .


                  ...........also, the facts disclosed stand even today & nobody has denied them till date .
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                  • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

                    Originally posted by vinaybhatia View Post
                    This is the bottom-line.
                    First they said..investors will loose money, when price was ~3000
                    Then.. It's all paper profit.. will stop at 4000
                    Then.. at 5000+.. bech ke to dikhayo fir jane..
                    Then.. investor made money.. but what about poor end users( who BTW are so insane that they take advice of this forum only and invest their hard earned money. )

                    The rates were about 3000, three years back .

                    What has changed on the numerous issues of DEW in these 3 years, except fragmented pieces of road being made . Rest all remains the same - litigation, ROB, Delhi side connectivity & many others .

                    In these 3 years, many DEW Brokers have been crying hoarse over the attractiveness of the investments here & many have been giving facts on the actual situation .

                    An end user who would have invested 3 years ago looking at the advice of many DEW hawks would not be able to live here in the next at least 4-5 years ( could go to 8-10 years, depending on how fast the issues get resolved . Lets take a average period of 6 years ) . So this end user might have an habitable place say after 9 years of his looking for a house . Please note the word "MAY" . Also, do look at all the tensions associated with this investment .



                    ........the issue is that vested interests don't like the actual situation to be discussed . U see, it hurts their business . Both side of the coin needs to be presented, but u see People start getting abusive, personal, whenever facts are discussed . We have seen numerous members banned because they were operating multiple ID's & spreading motivated information on DEW . Many of these ID's are back in action . Some are known & some exposed & some still stand hidden .Why do u think, they were operating multiple ID's ???? Quite obviously, they r meant to promote a region, Builder, Project, spread & propagate biased information, to get some business here & to meet their ill intentions . Also, it is quite obvious that in order to achieve the above, these guys running multiple ID's need to put down, abuse certain members who could see through their designs . These nefarious multiple ID characters abuse, call names, threaten others ( in groups ) in order to build up a consensus & hide their activities .



                    Everybody looks up to IREF with the hope of a platform where free, fair & transparent discussions r held & those giving biased, motivated information/ information meant for some personal gains r thrown out & Permanently dealt with .Then why have one sided discussions...............
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                    • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

                      Originally posted by amit001 View Post
                      ...............

                      People have earlier made multiple ids to write negative on D way, that speaks volumes on their intentions.

                      ............that is a totally one sided statement .


                      Multiple ID's, multiple times have been made by unscrupulous elements for spreading motivated & biased information on DEW, in order to gain favorable momentum for Projects here . Many of them have been caught red handed ( though some still are operating again with new ID's & remain to be exposed ) & many of them are back in action .

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