A lot of companies are advertising for property citing nearness to Dwarka expressway corridor.

Shilas, Indiabulls Centrum Park and Ramprastha Edge Tower come to mind.

Does anybody have news on when this construction will start and when it is likely to finish? Has the contract been awarded and to whom?
Date of completion and start of operation will be vital news for evaluating the pricing of flats sold in this corridor.

Last I heard was that a few houses in Palam Vihar were slated for demolition for this expressway in May June 09 or thereabouts.
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  • Progress cannot be halted, it may take time but someday DEW will be completed so if you have the patience to wait then the rewards would be plentiful
    Only question is how long the wait is going to be??
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  • Originally Posted by ravikot
    Although it seems like rohit_warren and blessu are saying same thing, but it is clearly visible there different interests. BlessU seems like concerned about poeple's pain and their hard earned money, while rohit is more worried regarding only to prove that his words were correct from start regarding DEWAY. He is kinda enjoying in putting salt on invester's wounds.

    Dear Rohit, I respect your knowledge and interest on this forum, but please try to understand that units once sold can not be returned back to builder. today one is sad, but once he sells his unit, other is sad. so please stop proving yourself right and try to be contributing.

    Dear other members of this forum: If some persons have only this intention to prove himself right, we can always choose to ignore them, as we have already chosen to wait and watch for DEWAY, and we know once we win, what we will get. that's why this is investment. The more risk, the more gain.

    My POV only.

    I am blunt in putting forward my views that may pinch people who have vested interest however innocent enduser who have put in their lives savings and mortgage their future will be able to judge the situation and will take decisions objectively.
    Originally Posted by nsd1445
    Progress cannot be halted, it may take time but someday DEW will be completed so if you have the patience to wait then the rewards would be plentiful
    Only question is how long the wait is going to be??

    Yes! No doubt about it but the question is when and even once it is complete another fight will begin with the builder for possession and then yet another with the maintenance agency.

    The only option left for endusers is to buy a ready to move property so he can spend time with the family or work.

    I don't see any activity on project threads where people are living apart from one or two queries about the quality and price.

    So once again think and take a sane decision.

    Rohit
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  • Originally Posted by Khalsa
    Ulti sahab,
    Court has given close date again, looks you are getting nervous and posting old news.
    Don't worry what ever verdict will come will be good for both party.
    Don't get excited so early,in life thinks can get change in sec.


    Do you have little idea about what happened in court?? It's useless to make comments on incomplete knowledge, this date was given since HUDA didn't produce the documents as promised. Though it was quite difficult to get them requested time as HUDA demanded however giving liberty the matter shall now again hear upon 18th Feb 2015.

    Regarding new case disposed off better to have study few law classes, further few more cases are in queue and foreseen after verdict (whenever delivered) already settled matter shall disinterred, lot of action and reactions are on card.

    "कानी बिनल रहलो न जाए , कानी बिनल नैनों जुडाये।"

    ये कहावत मैंने सुनी थी। कि एक आदमी था जिसकी बीवी कानी थी । वो उसे पसंद नही करता था , एक दिन उसने अपनी माँ को कहा की कानी को उसके मायके भेज दो.माँ ने बेटे की बात मान ली और बहु को मायके भेज दिया.कुछ दिन बाद बेटे ने माँ से कहा - माँ मेरा मन नही लग रहा , तुम कानी को वापस बुला लो। तब माँ ने कहा -तुम उसके साथ रह भी नही सकते , उसके बगैर भी नही रह सकते.
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  • NPR (Northern Peripheral Road)/ Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon updates

    The order is uploaded now

    phhc.gov.in:8080/enq_caseno.php?var1=CWP&var2=8055&var3=2008https://api.indianrealestateforum.com/api//v0/attachments/fetch-attachment?node_id=60198
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  • Sorry guys for just bumping inside this very valuable thread read and commented upon by some very knowledgeable and intelligent lawyers like Mr. ultichakri and others.

    Could someone help me understand a simple thing here- how come petitioners hire a senior advocate like Mr. SJ, that too for each hearing in this case ? We all know it is filthy expensive to hire a senior, say 5 lakhs to 6 lakhs rupees per hearing minimum. The villagers having small plots (that too in an unauthorized colony) cannot be expected to spend so much money on this kind of case. Not to mention, costs on other advocates who brief the senior and a battery of other assisting lawyers.

    So who is funding crores of rupees into this legal battle from petitioners' side ?

    PS: Sorry if I asked something too obvious or covered already....I am not as knowledgeable as guys here....
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  • Originally Posted by ultichakri
    Do you have little idea about what happened in court?? It's useless to make comments on incomplete knowledge, this date was given since HUDA didn't produce the documents as promised. Though it was quite difficult to get them requested time as HUDA demanded however giving liberty the matter shall now again hear upon 18th Feb 2015.

    Regarding new case disposed off better to have study few law classes, further few more cases are in queue and foreseen after verdict (whenever delivered) already settled matter shall disinterred, lot of action and reactions are on card.

    "कानी बिनल रहलो न जाए , कानी बिनल नैनों जुडाये।"

    ये कहावत मैंने सुनी थी। कि एक आदमी था जिसकी बीवी कानी थी । वो उसे पसंद नही करता था , एक दिन उसने अपनी माँ को कहा की कानी को उसके मायके भेज दो.माँ ने बेटे की बात मान ली और बहु को मायके भेज दिया.कुछ दिन बाद बेटे ने माँ से कहा - माँ मेरा मन नही लग रहा , तुम कानी को वापस बुला लो। तब माँ ने कहा -तुम उसके साथ रह भी नही सकते , उसके बगैर भी नही रह सकते.


    CHAKARVARTY,
    Now you getting personal sir, i didn't know my post will offend you.
    Regarding the Disposed case i posted for members.
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  • Originally Posted by ruch2000
    Sorry guys for just bumping inside this very valuable thread read and commented upon by some very knowledgeable and intelligent lawyers like Mr. ultichakri and others.

    Could someone help me understand a simple thing here- how come petitioners hire a senior advocate like Mr. SJ, that too for each hearing in this case ? We all know it is filthy expensive to hire a senior, say 5 lakhs to 6 lakhs rupees per hearing minimum. The villagers having small plots (that too in an unauthorized colony) cannot be expected to spend so much money on this kind of case. Not to mention, costs on other advocates who brief the senior and a battery of other assisting lawyers.

    So who is funding crores of rupees into this legal battle from petitioners' side ?

    PS: Sorry if I asked something too obvious or covered already....I am not as knowledgeable as guys here....


    ruch2000,
    Good points sir, may be some big short, land mafia people involved.
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  • RUCH... you have a Valid Point.


    We all know that in India, its easy to get people to file cases in the Hope that they can Extract More Value for their Land.

    Its happened in Bhatta Parsaul.... and other Cases in Greater Noida.

    If any one go to these places now, that Land Acquisition is Quashed.... you will find Farmers / Land Owners Staying in Same Poverty Stricken Conditions.

    At the point the case was being fought.. no one would have thought that they would be worse off.

    That's something these Petitioners need to understand.

    My only worry is :

    Why are the 100 + Builders on DEW not forming a Consortium... and fighting the Case?

    If Outsees can hire a Senior Counsel, I am Sure Builders can do better.

    RAM


    Originally Posted by ruch2000
    Sorry guys for just bumping inside this very valuable thread read and commented upon by some very knowledgeable and intelligent lawyers like Mr. ultichakri and others.

    Could someone help me understand a simple thing here- how come petitioners hire a senior advocate like Mr. SJ, that too for each hearing in this case ? We all know it is filthy expensive to hire a senior, say 5 lakhs to 6 lakhs rupees per hearing minimum. The villagers having small plots (that too in an unauthorized colony) cannot be expected to spend so much money on this kind of case. Not to mention, costs on other advocates who brief the senior and a battery of other assisting lawyers.

    So who is funding crores of rupees into this legal battle from petitioners' side ?

    PS: Sorry if I asked something too obvious or covered already....I am not as knowledgeable as guys here....
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  • HIGH COURT NOTIFIES 15 ADVOCATES AS ‘SENIOR ADVOCATES’

    June 25, 2014 05:47 PM
    Chandigarh (Face2Nes Bureau)
    The Punab and Haryana High court has notified the names of 15 advocates as Senior Advocates. Giving the details, a spokesman said that as per the powers conferred under section 16 (2) of the Advocates Act, 1961 the High Court of Punjab and Haryana at Chandigarh designated G.S. Bal, Arun Walia, Vijay Kumar Jindal, Baldev Raj Mahajan, Shailendra Jain, Puneet Jindal, Birender Singh Rana, Sanjeev Manrai, Rupinder S. Khosla, Rajesh Garg, Gulinder Singh Gill, Sanjay Kaushal, Anu Chatrath, Manjeet Singh and Deepinder Singh Patwalia as Senior Advocates w.e.f. 28-5-2014.

    He became a Senior advocate just recently. He is just an ordinary lawyer who happened to make a wind fall in the NPR case. He is not a high profile lawyer. He charges fees on case basis unlike high profile lawyers of Supreme Court. Plus in Punjab and Haryana High Court, merit is not always the criteria to be made a Senior lawyer. It is who is related to which judge. This is reflected in both the quality of the Senior lawyers as well as the judges appointed in the Punjab and High Court. That is the reason that Supreme Court gets the roughly 25% of its cases from Punjab and Haryana High Court because of the quality of judgments passed by Punjab and Haryana High Court. Here is an interesting article on the same that appeared in Hindustan Times in September 2013. Lisa Gill and H S Sidhu were some of the judges in the NPR case in July 2014, and December 2014 respectively.

    Over dozen advocates' names rejected by SC



      Sanjeev Verma, Hindustan Times, Chandigarh Updated: Sep 14, 2013 01:07 IST


      There has been sharp criticism by the high court bar on the age-old method of collegium system being followed in such selections on the ground that juniors and kin of judges are being recommended by the collegium without taking the bar into confidence.

      After the high court collegium, comprising then chief justice Arjan Kumar Sikri (now Supreme Court judge), and justices Jasbir Singh and SK Mittal, had recommended names of eight advocates for judgeship, the high court bar had sent a memorandum signed by over 1,000 advocates showing their resentment to the President, Prime Minister, Chief Justice of India and other sitting judges of the Supreme Court.

      The memorandum sent on May 5 reads, "It has now become a matter of practice and convenience to recommend the names of those advocates who are the sons, daughters, relatives and juniors of the former judges and chief justices…We also think that former chief justice AK Sikri wanted to clear his own file for elevation to Supreme Court through the government (offices of law minister and prime minister) and he obliged the law minister by being a willing party to the proposed elevation."

      Now, six of the names have been rejected by the Supreme Court. These advocates are Manisha Gandhi (daughter of former chief justice of India AS Anand and additional advocate general in Punjab), Girish Agnihotri (son of former justice MR Agnihotri), Vinod Ghai, BS Rana (former junior of justice SK Mittal and additional advocate general in Haryana), Gurminder Singh and Raj Karan Singh Brar (former junior of justice Jasbir Singh and additional advocate general, Haryana).

      Those two sent for re-consideration are Arun Palli (son of former justice PK Palli) and HS Sidhu (additional advocate general in Punjab).

      Senior advocate Anupam Gupta is of the view: "Most of the recommendations made by the high court collegium in March 2013 were an extreme example of judicial subjectivity, favouritism and patronage." He further adds, "It is a signified ethical collapse of the collegium system."

      "Judges in the collegium try to get their people on board. This collegium system needs to be replaced by a more transparent system," says senior advocate Roshan Lal Batta, also Bar-at-Law. In Britain, there is a commission and even the chief justice is selected by the commission, he adds.

      Recommendations sent in 2011
      Selected: Justices Naresh Kumar Sanghi, Rameshwar Singh Malik, Gurmeet Singh Sandhawalia (son of former chief justice SS Sandhawalia), Rajiv Narain Raina, Tejinder Singh Dhindsa and Paramjeet Singh (took oath on September 30, 2011)
      Rejected: JS Puri, Subir Sehgal (son of former justice Dharam Vir Sehgal) and Sunil Chadda

      Recommendations sent in 2012
      Selected:
      Justice Amol Rattan Singh (Took oath on December 21, 2012)

      Rejected:
      Kamal Sehgal (Haryana’s additional advocate general), Lisa Gill (daughter of former justice HS Brar), Puneet Jindal (former junior of former Supreme Court judge Ashok Bhan) and GS Bajwa (former junior of Supreme Court judge SS Nijjar)
      Recommendations sent in 2013

      None selected

      Rejected: Manisha Gandhi (daughter of former chief justice of India AS Anand and additional advocate general in Punjab), Girish Agnihotri (son of former justice MR Agnihotri), Vinod Ghai, BS Rana (former junior of justice SK Mittal and additional advocate general in Haryana), Gurminder Singh and Raj Karan Singh Brar (former junior of justice Jasbir Singh)
      Justices SK Mittal and Jasbir Singh were part of the high court collegium that had recommended names in March this year when now Supreme Court judge Arjan Kumar Sikri was the HC chief justice.

      For reconsideration: Arun Palli (son of former justice PK Palli) and HS Sidhu (Additional advocate general in Punjab).
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  • Originally Posted by Khalsa
    CHAKARVARTY,
    Now you getting personal sir, i didn't know my post will offend you.
    Regarding the Disposed case i posted for members.


    Khalsa ji,
    Don't Get angry, "It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word!"
    Let him Write Whatever Dirt He has in his mind,,,,
    I Appreciate What Mr Ravikot Said That "we can always choose to ignore them, as we have already chosen to wait and watch for DEWAY, and we know once we win, what we will get. that's why this is investment."
    Please IGNORE=

    कौआ के कोसे ढोर मरे तो,
    रोज कोसे, रोज मारे, रोज खाए।

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    यदि बुरा सोचने वालों के कारण ही किसी का बुरा होने लगे तो सभी बैठे-बैठे लोगों का बुरा करते रहेंगे। यदि ऐसा होता तो कौआ को अपने खाने के लिए किसी मरे जानवर का इंतज़ार नहीं करना पढता। वह रोज किसी जानवर का बुरा सोचता (मरने की सोचता) जानवर मरते और कौआ को खाने को मिलता।
    इससे शिक्षा मिलती है कि किसी के बुरा चाहने से हमारा बुरा नहीं होता।
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  • I just got a call from someone selling life insurance she started with sir lic mai invest karna hai.
    I was laughing about the fact that since when life insurance has become an investment vehicle, same with d eway people bought for enduse and calling themselves investors.
    Time for them to do some introspection.

    Rohit
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  • Originally Posted by rohit_warren
    I just got a call from someone selling life insurance she started with sir lic mai invest karna hai.
    I was laughing about the fact that since when life insurance has become an investment vehicle, same with d eway people bought for enduse and calling themselves investors.
    Time for them to do some introspection.

    Rohit


    I agree.

    All insurance is always expenditure.

    All end use real estate purchase is always expenditure.

    But real estate can be an investment - provide you think behave and act like an investor and not an end user.
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  • Originally Posted by Venkytalks
    I agree.

    All insurance is always expenditure.

    All end use real estate purchase is always expenditure.

    But real estate can be an investment - provide you think behave and act like an investor and not an end user.


    For majority of lower middle class Indians, property for end use is an investment of life time!
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  • Originally Posted by rohit_warren
    I just got a call from someone selling life insurance she started with sir lic mai invest karna hai.
    I was laughing about the fact that since when life insurance has become an investment vehicle, same with d eway people bought for enduse and calling themselves investors.
    Time for them to do some introspection.

    Rohit


    For your kind information, Road bane ya na bane, Ghar to banega hi banega.

    And being closer to Gurgaon's big corporates and delhi, value bhi jyada hi badhegi hi in comparison of other areas.
    Car will not go on 80KMPH but still car will definitely move on 30-40 KMPH till DEWAY is complete. in worst case we will be having sector roads for 5-7 years. still end user will reach home early than sector 95 or say sector 67.
    And an investment is always fruitful in developing areas not already expensive developed areas.

    So be it an end use or investment, it is always better than a lot of other options.

    It is painful for only those who thought in 2011 that they will be living in their unit till 2015. Which is anyhow not a case in anywhere in gurgaon.

    I know you always say that it is not value for money. but remember other options are also as expensive in same category flats.

    When we talk about NPR we all know it's not just a road, it is a future of 20-25 sectors that is quarter of gurgaon. So We all are assured that this is not a dream. this is just a thing on very slow pace.
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  • Originally Posted by mkg007
    For majority of lower middle class Indians, property for end use is an investment of life time!

    Fir se investment? Arre bhai investment is something from which you are seeking returns and middle class of India does not seek returns on property they want the money to be parked as property is considered safe when it comes to volatility in the price.
    Moreover those buying on 80% loan with 30 years payment term are people living in dream world.
    12 saal ka ek yug hota hai aur yaha aap 3 yug ke baat kar rahe ho?
    Job wahi rahegi for next 30 years? Or even 10-15 years?
    Ask people living on rent and paying emi of 80k per month.
    Property has underline value only when it is inhabitable not when it is sucking the blood every month and giving nothing but sleepless nights.
    Think what you can do with that extra 30k saved from rent?

    For endusers ready to move is the only option
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