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  • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

    Originally posted by ga_fms View Post
    This argument of illegality and unauthorised pertains to land use and not of ownership.

    If the litigants have valid Title documents (registered sale deeds), mutation documents generally do not signify ownership, than illegality annd unauthorization of colony/ settlement have no bearing on their right of litigants for compensation.

    Courts are duty bound to offer compnesation based on the prevailing law in force to genuine title holders. Courts cannot challange the Title of property even if the land use is unauthorised or illegal (Title check happens at the time of registarion at registrar's office)

    Therefore, I belive it is not fair to raise the bogey of illegality and unauthorised nature of land use in the arguments prevailig over right of litigants for fair compensation

    If a thief (in this case property dealer or anyone who knew that land is not for residential use) sells you a jewellery (or you yourself purchase knowingly that it is a stolen one) that does not means you can not wear it in parties but you own it. It is totally illegal both for use as well as ownership and entitled to return to the original owner. I don't know why, but HUDA seems generous to the litigants that it agrees to pay the compensation.

    Many a time it has been posted that it is a private land and it can not be acquired. I want to tell that there are numerous acquisitions are going all over india and that land is not public or govt. land but private land of farmers. In this case too this land was an agricultural land.

    Someone was saying that this path of DEW is routed just to benefit builders. Let me tell you the truth (from one of my reliable source ) that this path was decided to save the NPV phase 1 houses (and not the builders) otherwise this was going much inside in to NPV phase 1. The time when this route was prepared, the land in question was shown as agriculture land in government records. One truth about this is that the person who decided that route to save NPV ph 1 has been given V.R.S. to limit the controversies.

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    • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

      Originally posted by ultichakri View Post

      One person involved told me that any compromise could acceptable only on followings:

      Compensation twice the maximum market rate which is now 50k per yd= 1 lac/yd

      Cost of compulsory acquisition = 10k/yd

      Displacement allowance: 10 lac/house or plot. 

      Alternate plot at free of cost of same size

      Cost of construction 2500/sqft  
      JUST THESE?

      I have heard HUDA is agreeable to all above demands. Additional demands that HUDA is unable to meet are:

      1. One Porsche or a Ferrari!
      2. One Diamond Studded Swiss Watch!

      3. One Giorgio Armani Prom Suit!
      4. One night with Poonam Pandey! (Choice negotiable)
      5. One week holiday in São Paulo with Brazilian Escorts!
      6. Last but not the least - One year quota of Angreji Daaru! (Desi bhi chalegi)

      Hope things get solved soon!

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      • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

        Originally posted by mkg007 View Post
        JUST THESE?

        I have heard HUDA is agreeable to all above demands. Additional demands that HUDA is unable to meet are:

        1. One Porsche or a Ferrari!
        2. One Diamond Studded Swiss Watch!

        3. One Giorgio Armani Prom Suit!
        4. One night with Poonam Pandey! (Choice negotiable)
        5. One week holiday in São Paulo with Brazilian Escorts!
        6. Last but not the least - One year quota of Angreji Daaru! (Desi bhi chalegi)

        Hope things get solved soon!
        Hillarious!,You are right.They are asking for the SKY
        Dil Jawan Hai To Jahan Hai

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        • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

          Originally posted by mkg007 View Post
          JUST THESE?

          I have heard HUDA is agreeable to all above demands. Additional demands that HUDA is unable to meet are:

          1. One Porsche or a Ferrari!
          2. One Diamond Studded Swiss Watch!

          3. One Giorgio Armani Prom Suit!
          4. One night with Poonam Pandey! (Choice negotiable)
          5. One week holiday in São Paulo with Brazilian Escorts!
          6. Last but not the least - One year quota of Angreji Daaru! (Desi bhi chalegi)

          Hope things get solved soon!
          hahahahha.... Good joke, but point to be noted :- JOKE SHOORO KISNE KIYA THA!!!!!!

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          • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

            Title document , namely Sale deed (to be regiseterd) is a document of title transfer.

            Title transfer can only happen and is legal if the seller had the clean title. And if he has, than the buyer also acquires clean title over the property.(This is the duty of registrar to check this at time of registration)

            Therefore court's jurisdiction for compensation is applicable for all those litigents with clean title.

            If land use is deemed illegal or unautharised, than still it is nobody's case to declare the clean title as void. (Transfer of property act is a central legislation and serves as the legal provision for title transfer in harmony with state stamp Act and registration rules)

            Originally posted by eyeopener View Post
            If a thief (in this case property dealer or anyone who knew that land is not for residential use) sells you a jewellery (or you yourself purchase knowingly that it is a stolen one) that does not means you can not wear it in parties but you own it. It is totally illegal both for use as well as ownership and entitled to return to the original owner. I don't know why, but HUDA seems generous to the litigants that it agrees to pay the compensation.

            Many a time it has been posted that it is a private land and it can not be acquired. I want to tell that there are numerous acquisitions are going all over india and that land is not public or govt. land but private land of farmers. In this case too this land was an agricultural land.

            Someone was saying that this path of DEW is routed just to benefit builders. Let me tell you the truth (from one of my reliable source ) that this path was decided to save the NPV phase 1 houses (and not the builders) otherwise this was going much inside in to NPV phase 1. The time when this route was prepared, the land in question was shown as agriculture land in government records. One truth about this is that the person who decided that route to save NPV ph 1 has been given V.R.S. to limit the controversies.

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            • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

              Originally posted by ga_fms View Post
              Title document , namely Sale deed (to be regiseterd) is a document of title transfer.

              Title transfer can only happen and is legal if the seller had the clean title. And if he has, than the buyer also acquires clean title over the property.(This is the duty of registrar to check this at time of registration)

              Therefore court's jurisdiction for compensation is applicable for all those litigents with clean title.

              If land use is deemed illegal or unautharised, than still it is nobody's case to declare the clean title as void. (Transfer of property act is a central legislation and serves as the legal provision for title transfer in harmony with state stamp Act and registration rules)
              The summary is the houses standing on the agricultural land are illegal (because legally they should not be there) and saying illegal an illegal is right.

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              • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

                Construction of Houses may be declared illegal but the ownership of the land still cannot be declared illegal.

                Originally posted by eyeopener View Post
                The summary is the houses standing on the agricultural land are illegal (because legally they should not be there) and saying illegal an illegal is right.

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                • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

                  Originally posted by ultichakri View Post
                  Once forefather of my uncle bought land in Lajpat nagar ND at rate of Rs. 250000 and it has worth of now 25 cr. Would govt authorized to take away his land on the price quoted on sale deed. It's ridiculous, the market value always worked out at present rate whenever transaction or any acquisition take place. And being private land regardless authorized or unauthorized doesn't give any right to authority to take away ownership without paying fair price.

                  One person involved told me that any compromise could acceptable only on followings:

                  Compensation twice the maximum market rate which is now 50k per yd= 1 lac/yd

                  Cost of compulsory acquisition = 10k/yd

                  Displacement allowance: 10 lac/house or plot.

                  Alternate plot at free of cost of same size

                  Cost of construction 2500/sqft

                  Debating here wouldn't help neither HUDA or litigant change their stance. Cursing, crying, fictitious assumption , abusing would lead to only disappointment. I posted the figures told to me and considering the determination of outsees any compromise seems to distant dream. And without consent letter sine die stay order can't vacate neither HUDA can approach to HC, hence the matter is almost dead.

                  Since its useless to discuss on topic and I have already clarified the POV of person. Henceforth, I am ending the debate here from my end.
                  sorry bro...,
                  but dlf plots authorized and with all facilities available in sector 92-96...,@45k till date.

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                  • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

                    Originally posted by ga_fms View Post
                    Construction of Houses may be declared illegal but the ownership of the land still cannot be declared illegal.
                    if construction of house declared as illegal....then no question of asking for construction cost..., further HUDA can claim the demolition cost..., from these litigants also.

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                    • Re : NPR - Northern Peripheral Road, Dwarka Expressway, Gurgaon Updates

                      Court shall review comepnsation based on relevant law in force and the reasonablness of demand.No question about this.

                      Construction can be declared illegal only if it is proved beyond doubt that construction completion certificate to the litigant has been issued with connivance of issuing authority inclduding chain of ommmand. (Even if it is proven that the Issuing Official was corrupt, than also complete chain of command having the checks and balances in place will be investigated.) This seems extremely improbable!

                      It is also stated that Litigants can ask for whatever they want, but their demands shall be taken up by court objectively.



                      Originally posted by DEEPAKguru View Post
                      if construction of house declared as illegal....then no question of asking for construction cost..., further HUDA can claim the demolition cost..., from these litigants also.

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