Another new project in Noida :

sunshinehelios.com

Website is excellent, no idea about ground reality..Even could not find the builder details..But the concept and amenities are excellent..

Has anyone got any clue about builder and any completed project by him.

Surprisingly no broker is also talking about this project.
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  • U either buy edifice on ATS from those dealers or from da company. Will u buy ATS? I did not know so many dealers were wasting their time waiting for a bakra 2 buy ATS.
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  • Does anyone have more details about the new project at Sec 143? My cousin has a flat in Helios I. Since he is in Bangalore now, he is planning to sell the one in sec 78 and buy in sec 143. He is looking at it as an end user, but has no hurry to move in to his own apartment.
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  • I believe ATS project is being contemplated to be launched in sec 150 near aman, logix neo world. I have no confirmed news. Also, I personally believe that sec 78 is far better than sec 143 any day to compromise a location for a high profile builder in a remote location. I see no comparision between sec 78 helios location and sec 143. Rest is your friends decision,
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  • Originally Posted by Skumar32
    I believe ATS project is being contemplated to be launched in sec 150 near aman, logix neo world. I have no confirmed news. Also, I personally believe that sec 78 is far better than sec 143 any day to compromise a location for a high profile builder in a remote location. I see no comparision between sec 78 helios location and sec 143. Rest is your friends decision,


    But helios in sec 78 is approx 5k and this new project 3500.. So you are getting premium of 1500... What more can you ask for...
    Down the line in one year, what will be the price of sec78 project and sec 143 project...answer this and yourself calculate the return on investment...
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  • Originally Posted by sbajaj
    Dealeron ne dukaan khol rakhi hai IREF par.


    MIG projects ke liye IREF par dukaan kholna samaz me aata hai. Par 2-3 karod ke flats chawanni chhap tareekon ko bechne ki koshish ho rahi hai.

    Originally Posted by sbajaj

    Sector 107 is a poor location for a luxury project.


    107 is a good location for an MIG project. But At least the part touching the Dadri road should have been left for commercial. Ab wahan bhi project hai, and they are being sold as expressway (which is more than 2 km away) projects!

    The other part of 107 (Opposite LB) is not a bad location for a luxury project, but the sector layout - having projects sandwiched between others projects - doesn't suit luxury. Still OK for MIG.

    Originally Posted by sbajaj

    Prateek Edifice - I read prakash sir is so excited as in his opinion edifice is now 6k from 5k :-))) I mean it's funny to read such comments. 9 out of 10 dealers in sector 18 alone...can get you a deal around 5100-5200 but yahan dekho ?


    Prakash ji does not look like a dukaan wala , but I feel over optimistic. And emotionally biased towards his choices. But its good to have him here, as a package.

    Originally Posted by sbajaj

    L300 - I always maintain - it has got a poor location if you are using taglines like super luxury / one of it's kind. I find loading very high. mark my words .....it's fate will be just like omaxe forest i.e. - mehnga haathi har kissi ke buss ke baat nahin hai khareedna aur bhogna. investors ke haath se jab cheez nikal jaate hai ....woh asli value hai property ke. In 2004 Omaxe forest was launched around 3k per sqft - in 2012 - still struggling around 6k mark. It's a very very good n spacious society.


    From a bird's eye view, loading looked high to me also. But I didn't bother calculating (I thought rich people need very spacious lobby, lifts and common area, so loading would be higher). Today, the bigger size units are said to be commanding much more premium than the smallest (? 3600 sqft) unit. Once close to RTM, the king size units may become gale ki haddi - na nigal sakte, na ugal sakte.

    Originally Posted by sbajaj

    JP - No comments. bcoz IREF pe 80% JP ke dealer baithe hain.....saare dealer mujh pe chad jayengey ...main unhe gaaliyan doonga ....woh mujhe dengey...result i will be banned.


    I have different opinion about JP. When very close to RTM, end users will eventually find it as a VFM option. Resale prices will never go through the roof, as they did for LB/LP. unless JP executes is so well that it changes the Kundli of Noida, it is going to be a mass grave for investors. End users will find seemingly valuable deals. But when occupancy starts, they would realize door ke dhol suhawne. 50 paise psf ka maintenance charge dene me nani yaad aati hai logon ko... jab JP khoon chhosega to daadi bhi yaad aayegi.

    Originally Posted by sbajaj

    There is only one project in my opinion, if delivered will outclass everything else in Noida by a long long margin......n u already knows about it. I still stand by my comments.


    "if delivered", then no one dare have a different opinion about this. Ye IF hi to bahot bada hai. Big shots like you should tell us the chances of that happening. After all, you sit with people we haven't even heard of!

    Originally Posted by sbajaj

    PS - Pravin, let me pick your brains ....If i give you one khokha ....where will you invest in noida, what returns you expect n why ?


    I don't find Noida investment grade now. Neither am I in a "double or nothing" position now, as I was in 2010.

    For end use, my favorite location is sector 40 area. Second is sector 61. I had thought that sec 105 area would come up well, but it seems it is ruined now.

    Agar invest karna hi hai, 1 khoka, then I would shortlist the following, and do a recce for a few days, to finalize one.

    1. Omaxe Grandwoods. 1600 size. Returns expected: 40 to 70% in 2 to 3 years. Reason: excellent location, low density and and almost certain value add expected - regisrty.

    2. Shops in sec 137. No idea about price and size. But youngsters staying near IT park are a businessman's paradise.
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  • Praveen, are you writing what sbajaj wants to hear or are these your thoughts?

    If Noida isn't investment grade, why would you spend so much time on the forum? You are wasting your time! You are smarter than that!

    Are you looking for perfection - best builder at best location with best quality at reasonable rate? You will have to wait for recession to get such opportunity and even that is not guaranteed!

    Omaxe is an excellent end user project if maintained well! Investing now could fetch you FDish or slighly better returns for a low risk entry! You invested in Helios UC, is low risk your profile?
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  • Originally Posted by ssncr123
    Praveen, are you writing what sbajaj wants to hear or are these your thoughts?


    Na bhai. I have my own views. Although they are subject to change with experience.

    Originally Posted by ssncr123
    If Noida isn't investment grade, why would you spend so much time on the forum? You are wasting your time! You are smarter than that!


    Do you think I am spending time here to "invest" money? I have already moved out of Noida, and even if Noida was attractive for investment, it would not be worth it for me to manage it from Pune. Even if it was, I have no money to invest :)

    About wasting time, to bhai main ghar to Pune me search kar raha hoon, but I don't spend time on Pune forum. Noida se jo connection ban gaya hai, wo wahan nahi ban pa raha. IREF is a time pass/hobby/addiction. It keeps me fresh and doesn't let the work feel like a burden. Entertainment is a necessity, not time waste.

    Originally Posted by ssncr123
    Are you looking for perfection - best builder at best location with best quality at reasonable rate? You will have to wait for recession to get such opportunity and even that is not guaranteed!


    No buddy. I already am holding a unit in Helios. Bought at 3000 psf.

    Originally Posted by ssncr123
    Omaxe is an excellent end user project if maintained well! Investing now could fetch you FDish or slighly better returns for a low risk entry! You invested in Helios UC, is low risk your profile?


    See, expectations about returns will always vary from person to person. I wrote my views, you wrote yours. Even if I have 1 crore today, i am not going to put that in Noida. My post was just a reply to Mr Bajaj's hypothetical question.
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  • Hi,

    Not sure if this is true, but I heard that resale is not allowed in Helios. If someone has to sell his unit, then they have to give it to Builder. Can someone please confirm, if it's true?
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  • Originally Posted by VikasAg
    Hi,

    Not sure if this is true, but I heard that resale is not allowed in Helios. If someone has to sell his unit, then they have to give it to Builder. Can someone please confirm, if it's true?

    This is not true.

    Refer Welcome to Sunshine Helios : Completely Reconfigurable Apartment ::
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  • Originally Posted by khariddar
    Does anyone have more details about the new project at Sec 143? My cousin has a flat in Helios I. Since he is in Bangalore now, he is planning to sell the one in sec 78 and buy in sec 143. He is looking at it as an end user, but has no hurry to move in to his own apartment.


    Please let me know your details and I will get in touch with you for your cousin flat in Helios.
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  • Any info when is this sec 143 project planned....is the project approved ?
    All licenses taken ?
    When is soft launch planned ?

    Seniors,
    How do you compare this to ats planned project in sec 143...
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  • Originally Posted by sbajaj
    Dealeron ne dukaan khol rakhi hai IREF par.

    Sector 107 is a poor location for a luxury project.

    Prateek Edifice - I read prakash sir is so excited as in his opinion edifice is now 6k from 5k :-))) I mean it's funny to read such comments. 9 out of 10 dealers in sector 18 alone...can get you a deal around 5100-5200 but yahan dekho ?

    L300 - I always maintain - it has got a poor location if you are using taglines like super luxury / one of it's kind. I find loading very high. mark my words .....it's fate will be just like omaxe forest i.e. - mehnga haathi har kissi ke buss ke baat nahin hai khareedna aur bhogna. investors ke haath se jab cheez nikal jaate hai ....woh asli value hai property ke. In 2004 Omaxe forest was launched around 3k per sqft - in 2012 - still struggling around 6k mark. It's a very very good n spacious society.

    JP - No comments. bcoz IREF pe 80% JP ke dealer baithe hain.....saare dealer mujh pe chad jayengey ...main unhe gaaliyan doonga ....woh mujhe dengey...result i will be banned.

    There is only one project in my opinion, if delivered will outclass everything else in Noida by a long long margin......n u already knows about it. I still stand by my comments.

    PS - Pravin, let me pick your brains ....If i give you one khokha ....where will you invest in noida, what returns you expect n why ?

    Regards
    Sbajaj


    Bajaj sahab.. as usual never miss your post. I read only NOIDA IREF and kind of bored and stopped visiting. Sometime open and saw your recent post.

    But I have rated your advise given 2 years back not to buy Peigion hole in NOIDA as "JUNK GRADE". Those who followed you and did not buy in 2010-early 2011.. might be crying...

    Kah rahe honge.. Bajaj ke paas to ATS Village hai.. humko Paras Sec 137 bhi nahi kharedane diya..:bab (45):

    Multiple people invested in 2010 in NOIDA infact doubled their money in 2 years.. few cashed and few still holding...

    Praveen : Navodaya is a premium school and it used to be very tough to get admission. My tenant son got selected in 1990 in class 6th in Navodaya and today he is an IAS. Couple of more Navodaya guys I know are IITian.

    Today thing might have changed but in 1990-2000, for a small city middle class boy, Navodaya/Sanik School used to first step before IIT.

    Combination of Good School+ Likely mined studies friends is deadly combination.

    My feeling is who are your best friend in class 9th to class 12th make big impact. Because these 4 years are real decision making in life..

    Try to make your kid rational and be realistic about his finacial situation..

    My father told me : If you does not study, I don't have money.. You have to open "Egg shop on road side" or at max a general merchant shop...

    I had all kinds of friends: Studious, Gunda, full time lover, worthless...so whenever I used to cross limit, I used to imagine myself: Selling Egg on road side.. and pull my leg..

    But luckily not all.. few really doing very bad today...
    I had freinds in school whose aim was to become "Goonda" as career. Couple of them got convicted for "Attempt to murder" Sec 307, in class 11th itself.

    A 10th class lean/small boy who wanted to become Goonda but no one was taking him seriously mudered a boy.. cold blodded in full public view.. Just to become famous...

    He was just 16 year old, got bail after 5 month from High court and actually got "Campus selection" for his dare davil act.

    A city based big politician turn gunda, saw potential in him and recruited him in his team.
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  • Originally Posted by ecstasy
    Every thread needs a Godfather to save it .. If not Godfather then few step fathers ;) who can actually keep the discussion alive .. This thread is lacking behind in that .. Also, since the project is already completed and need no more advertisement so ppl do not have much to discuss here ..

    See the JayPee threads.. How many fathers are there to take care of the thread as well as to sell the project ..


    Okay I guess we can nominate Fatichar as the Godfather of this thread as he is taking good care of it..
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  • Originally Posted by ecstasy
    Okay I guess we can nominate Fatichar as the Godfather of this thread as he is taking good care of it..

    Thanks!

    On a side note, Na main father hoon, na hi God me vishwas karta hoon :)
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  • Originally Posted by sbajaj
    OH forgot to mention - ongoing rate for nursery admission in Delhi are -

    Sardar Patel - 20 lacs
    Modern, Barakhamba - 15 lacs
    DPS RK Puram - 15 lacs

    PS - Yeh donation unke leeye hai - jo anpad hain but paise waale - jinka bacche ka kahin admission nahin hua or someone who is a idiot wants to opt for such schools at any cost just for the sake of snob value.

    Regards
    Sbajaj

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    Your data is frightening, might be true in few cases. But, if the last 2 year's admissions are any indication, I am aware of many cases in my neighbourhood who got admission in DPS RKP, but I am 100% sure no donation was given. In fact, all and sundry got admission there, giving an impression as if they are on an admission taking spree. I am no great fan of DPS RKP, but since I have first hand info of recent admissions, I think this data is spurious.
    May be some Dhan Pashu want to throw away money just like that, may be based on such impressions, as is being bandied about.

    But you are SBajaj, may be you are right, except those instances that I mentioned.
    It seems people have taken entirely different connotation to:
    Poot kapoot toh kaa dhan sanchay. ( admission par hi kharch kar daalo).
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