Another new project in Noida :

sunshinehelios.com

Website is excellent, no idea about ground reality..Even could not find the builder details..But the concept and amenities are excellent..

Has anyone got any clue about builder and any completed project by him.

Surprisingly no broker is also talking about this project.
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  • Source of Information ??

    Originally Posted by Deepak_singh
    What I heard was that Sunshine is trying to buy another 2.5 acres from SK. Not sure if that attempt was successfull. Also I heard that the plot (be it 2.5/5 acres) has now been officially transferred to Sunshine.
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  • 1. While this surely is a cause of concern, there exists a project of less than 5 acre FSI: Morpheus Green, adjoining Helios. I this it is in 3 acres max.

    2. "fooling by giving 35% as balcony area."

    When floor plan is shown in advance, how can it be termed as fooling? It doesn't take a PHD to realise that balcony area is high. In any case, 35% is an exaggeration. You compare the non-balcony areas with other projects and post your calculations here.

    3. Goodwill is not generated by websites. Get real. If it was so it would have been generated 2 years ago. That time people were busy with 3C.

    4. Helios 2 is in 'pre launch'. Such investments are always a gamble, fuelled by greed of investors. When all documents are in place, it becomes a launch.

    Disclaimer: I am not invested in Helios 2.


    Originally Posted by sanjeevchaudhri
    Please note that Sunshine can not buy anything less than 5 acres (20,000 sq meter) from Shubhkamna. If they are claiming that they would build Helios 2 on less than 5 acres, they are cheating the buyers of Helios 2.
    ==========================
    TRANSFER OF PLOTS
    Without obtaining the completion certificate the lessee shall have the right to
    sub-divide the allotted plot into suitable smaller plots as per planning norms
    and to transfer the same to the interested parties with the
    prior approval of NOIDA on payment of transfer charges 2% of allotment
    rate. However, the area of each of such sub-divided plots should not be less
    than 20,000 sq.mtrs. No transfer charges will be payable in case of first sale,
    including the built up premises on said sub-divided plot. However, on
    subsequent sale, transfer charges shall be applicable on the prevailing rates as
    fixed by the Authority.
    ===========================

    Modus operandi of Sunshine:
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    1. Claim to give the best builtup area to super area ratio. In real, they are fooling by giving 35% as balcony area.
    2. Generated goodwill by maintaining a good website and providing regular updates.
    3. Now, they are taking cheques from the buyers of Helios 2 in the name of the Sunshine Business park. In reality, they are funding their commercial project. If the above Noida Authority clause is true, then Helios 2 is in deep s h i t.
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    Originally Posted by fatichar
    1. While this surely is a cause of concern, there exists a project of less than 5 acre FSI: Morpheus Green, adjoining Helios. I this it is in 3 acres max.

    2. "fooling by giving 35% as balcony area."

    When floor plan is shown in advance, how can it be termed as fooling? It doesn't take a PHD to realise that balcony area is high. In any case, 35% is an exaggeration. You compare the non-balcony areas with other projects and post your calculations here.

    3. Goodwill is not generated by websites. Get real. If it was so it would have been generated 2 years ago. That time people were busy with 3C.

    4. Helios 2 is in 'pre launch'. Such investments are always a gamble, fuelled by greed of investors. When all documents are in place, it becomes a launch.

    Disclaimer: I am not invested in Helios 2.
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  • Originally Posted by fatichar
    1. While this surely is a cause of concern, there exists a project of less than 5 acre FSI: Morpheus Green, adjoining Helios. I this it is in 3 acres max.

    2. "fooling by giving 35% as balcony area."

    When floor plan is shown in advance, how can it be termed as fooling? It doesn't take a PHD to realise that balcony area is high. In any case, 35% is an exaggeration. You compare the non-balcony areas with other projects and post your calculations here.

    3. Goodwill is not generated by websites. Get real. If it was so it would have been generated 2 years ago. That time people were busy with 3C.

    4. Helios 2 is in 'pre launch'. Such investments are always a gamble, fuelled by greed of investors. When all documents are in place, it becomes a launch.

    Disclaimer: I am not invested in Helios 2.


    1. There are hundreds of GHP plots in Noida which are less than 5 acres and were directly allotted by NOIDA authority. The policy in question here is the one in which the buyer of a GHP sub-divides his plot and any sub-division can not be less than 5 acres.

    2. When floor plan is shown and even then buyers are happy with the claim of builder that he is giving the best built-up area and the buyer is a "fool" to ignore that 35% is balcony area, then you are right, the builder is not trying "to fool", he is selling "to fools".

    3. What to say of GOODWILL? 50% of buyers in Helios I are from Mentor (Helios mein kharido, nahi to BOSS naraj ho jayega), rest 30% are from EDA/VLSI design companies (all known to JMD).

    4. "Pre-launch" as such is banned by Noida Authority. Getting documents in place would take time. Till then, your hard earned money is financing Sunshine Business Park.
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  • Originally Posted by sanjeevchaudhri
    1. There are hundreds of GHP plots in Noida which are less than 5 acres and were directly allotted by NOIDA authority. The policy in question here is the one in which the buyer of a GHP sub-divides his plot and any sub-division can not be less than 5 acres.

    2. When floor plan is shown and even then buyers are happy with the claim of builder that he is giving the best built-up area and the buyer is a "fool" to ignore that 35% is balcony area, then you are right, the builder is not trying "to fool", he is selling "to fools".

    3. What to say of GOODWILL? 50% of buyers in Helios I are from Mentor (Helios mein kharido, nahi to BOSS naraj ho jayega), rest 30% are from EDA/VLSI design companies (all known to JMD).

    4. "Pre-launch" as such is banned by Noida Authority. Getting documents in place would take time. Till then, your hard earned money is financing Sunshine Business Park.



    Yes 50% of people in Helios are probably from EDA. Most of them are so happy with their investment that even before the land or even the site for Helios 2 was decided people were handing over checks to invest. Now that is GOODWILL.
    As for the balcony issue it is completely a matter of personal choice. Just because some people dont like it does not mean everyone else has made a poor choice in buying one.
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  • Originally Posted by sraddha
    Yes 50% of people in Helios are probably from EDA. Most of them are so happy with their investment that even before the land or even the site for Helios 2 was decided people were handing over checks to invest. Now that is GOODWILL.
    As for the balcony issue it is completely a matter of personal choice. Just because some people dont like it does not mean everyone else has made a poor choice in buying one.


    1. Most of them are so happy with their investment (which got them good to excellent raises in mentor graphics in 2011 and 2012) that even before the land or even the site for Helios 2 was decided people were handing over checks to invest (so that they get good/excellent raises in 2013 and 2014 also). Each and Every investment made in any other project in 2010 has also given more than 100% return, so why this infatuation with Sunshine/Helios?

    2. No one initially bought in Helios I because the balconies were huge (and consuming 35% of the area). They bought as they were buying a project which was offering the best built-up area. Now, suddenly, huge baconies area has become a personal choice. Gale mein dhol pad gaya hai to ab bajana to padega hee.
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  • Originally Posted by sanjeevchaudhri
    1. Most of them are so happy with their investment (which got them good to excellent raises in mentor graphics in 2011 and 2012) that even before the land or even the site for Helios 2 was decided people were handing over checks to invest (so that they get good/excellent raises in 2013 and 2014 also).

    2. No one initially bought in Helios I because the balconies were huge (and consuming 35% of the area). They bought as they were buying a project which was offering the best built-up area. Now, suddenly, huge baconies area has become a personal choice. Gale mein dhol pad gaya hai to ab bajana to padega hee.


    Did Mentor fire you recently ???
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  • Originally Posted by shaitaan
    Did Mentor fire you recently ???

    Did Mentor give you an excellent raise recently ???
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  • Originally Posted by sanjeevchaudhri
    1. Most of them are so happy with their investment (which got them good to excellent raises in mentor graphics in 2011 and 2012) that even before the land or even the site for Helios 2 was decided people were handing over checks to invest (so that they get good/excellent raises in 2013 and 2014 also). Each and Every investment made in any other project in 2010 has also given more than 100% return, so why this infatuation with Sunshine/Helios?

    2. No one initially bought in Helios I because the balconies were huge (and consuming 35% of the area). They bought as they were buying a project which was offering the best built-up area. Now, suddenly, huge baconies area has become a personal choice. Gale mein dhol pad gaya hai to ab bajana to padega hee.


    Linking buying into the project with raises, thats hilarious dude.

    As for the balcony issue, when I was searching for a project for end use recently this was at the top of my list which is why I said that it is personal choice . Could not afford it though.
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  • 1. Morpheus has got the land from Antriksh, not authority. So it's also a case of sub division.

    2. Have you done calculations? Do them and post here. Show that 35% is balcony area. Total usable area is 82%. If balcony area is 35%, then non-balcony carpet area should be 82 - 35 = 47% right? Prove that this is the case and I will stop writing on iref. Else you stop writing on this thread at least.

    3. From where did you get the figures? I mean, I am a buyer in Helios and still don't know this. Have you worked with Sunshine to have got this insider info?

    4. I am not asking anyone to invest in Helios 2. People have invested as per their taste. As per you, if they are getting good raise due to buying, what problem do you have?

    Originally Posted by sanjeevchaudhri
    1. There are hundreds of GHP plots in Noida which are less than 5 acres and were directly allotted by NOIDA authority. The policy in question here is the one in which the buyer of a GHP sub-divides his plot and any sub-division can not be less than 5 acres.

    2. When floor plan is shown and even then buyers are happy with the claim of builder that he is giving the best built-up area and the buyer is a "fool" to ignore that 35% is balcony area, then you are right, the builder is not trying "to fool", he is selling "to fools".

    3. What to say of GOODWILL? 50% of buyers in Helios I are from Mentor (Helios mein kharido, nahi to BOSS naraj ho jayega), rest 30% are from EDA/VLSI design companies (all known to JMD).

    4. "Pre-launch" as such is banned by Noida Authority. Getting documents in place would take time. Till then, your hard earned money is financing Sunshine Business Park.
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  • To all those who are cribbing about high balcony area in Helios

    1. Tell us which project should be bought instead of Helios.

    2. Show us some maths. For your chosen project, post the carpet area calculations and compare them with Helios.

    3. Also, declare that only those projects which have more non-balcony carpet area than Helios should be bought.
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  • Originally Posted by fatichar
    To all those who are cribbing about high balcony area in Helios

    1. Tell us which project should be bought instead of Helios.

    2. Show us some maths. For your chosen project, post the carpet area calculations and compare them with Helios.

    3. Also, declare that only those projects which have more non-balcony carpet area than Helios should be bought.


    1. Projects which have at max 3 balconies : Attached to drawing/dining, another to kitchen (utility) and the last attached to master bedroom.

    2. No need of maths here. Go for project which gives you most carpet area within the 4 walls of the flat. NCR region has extreme weather due to which we can not spend much time outside the 4 walls (cold wave/hot wave).

    3. I am declaring that only those projects which have more non-balcony carpet area than Helios should be bought. Just joking ....
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  • Originally Posted by sanjeevchaudhri
    1. Projects which have at max 3 balconies : Attached to drawing/dining, another to kitchen (utility) and the last attached to master bedroom.

    2. No need of maths here. Go for project which gives you most carpet area within the 4 walls of the flat. NCR region has extreme weather due to which we can not spend much time outside the 4 walls (cold wave/hot wave).

    3. I am declaring that only those projects which have more non-balcony carpet area than Helios should be bought. Just joking ....


    1. How does it hurt if the flat has an extra balcony, without compromising on the remaining carpet area?

    do you mean

    60% carpet area + 20% balcony area

    is worse than

    60% carpet area + 10% balcony area?

    even after applying your criteria, most flats in Helios have only 3 balconies. refer http://sunshinehelios.com/images/fp1_b.jpg

    Again, as you are criticising helios on carpet area, you must have done the analysis for several other projects. Why are you shying away from telling which projects have better carpet area than Helios, so that people can verify?

    2. Why no need of maths? You are claiming here that Helios has 35% balcony area, which is utterly false. And calling people fool. Do you feel you have right to call people fool, without even bothering to prove your point?
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  • Originally Posted by sanjeevchaudhri
    1. Most of them are so happy with their investment (which got them good to excellent raises in mentor graphics in 2011 and 2012) that even before the land or even the site for Helios 2 was decided people were handing over checks to invest (so that they get good/excellent raises in 2013 and 2014 also). Each and Every investment made in any other project in 2010 has also given more than 100% return, so why this infatuation with Sunshine/Helios?

    2. No one initially bought in Helios I because thde balconies were huge (and consuming 35% of the area). They bought as they were buying a project which was offering the best built-up area. Now, suddenly, huge baconies area has become a personal choice.

    Gale mein dhol pad gaya hai to ab bajana to padega hee./COLOR]]

    will reply to u in phursut............for now ur proverb has reminded of another one............monkey know not taste of ginger i.e. Bandar kya jane adrak ka sawad ;)

    have a nice evening
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  • Originally Posted by fatichar
    1. How does it hurt if the flat has an extra balcony, without compromising on the remaining carpet area?

    do you mean

    60% carpet area + 20% balcony area

    is worse than

    60% carpet area + 10% balcony area?

    even after applying your criteria, most flats in Helios have only 3 balconies. refer http://sunshinehelios.com/images/fp1_b.jpg

    Again, as you are criticising helios on carpet area, you must have done the analysis for several other projects. Why are you shying away from telling which projects have better carpet area than Helios, so that people can verify?

    2. Why no need of maths? You are claiming here that Helios has 35% balcony area, which is utterly false. And calling people fool. Do you feel you have right to call people fool, without even bothering to prove your point?


    1. actual carpet area in SSH is only 58%. excluding the walls & balcony. there is hardly any project in noida with less carpet area than this.

    2. Yes, 58% carpet + 20 % balcony in sunshine is worse proposition for the buyer than 65% + 10% offered by any other bad builder.

    3. Some people have successfully fooled themselves by buying the 82% carpet area declaration of SSH. 82% declaration is absolutely dishonest and unethical declaration by sunshine, some stupid buyers have been feeling proud about this declaration & even advertising this.

    4. arithmetic is not a replacement for right application of logic. stupid maths will lead to stupid results, which results in a group of stupid buyers defending their stupidity.
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