Another new project in Noida :

sunshinehelios.com

Website is excellent, no idea about ground reality..Even could not find the builder details..But the concept and amenities are excellent..

Has anyone got any clue about builder and any completed project by him.

Surprisingly no broker is also talking about this project.
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  • Its all relative

    Hi Zohalib, while we evaluate a project, we have to compare among the choices available. We cant get any project tailor made to our needs, unless we build it ourselves.

    >> 400 appts for 5.5 acres is High density

    But it is lower than 80/acre. Most projects in Noida today are around 125/acre. Hence relatively this is low density.

    >>
    Solely depends on Maintenance agency and Later your RWA..Not on builder. I have seen societies of 200 families having such issues whereas societies of 1000 appts had better security..It has nothing to do with builder...

    Mohit didn't say that this is due to builder! He said this is due to 400 flats. Yes, 200 flats may have issues and 1000 may not, but generally issues would be proportional to th no of residents.

    >>
    400 Families in 5.5 acres is on higher side. Club, pool crowd depends on type of families residing. If you have young couples with kids..they will usually be in parks and clubs will be full in weekends only.
    This you will come to know only when you have started living...Tenants are a bigger nuisance in societies for such matters


    Again, this is all same for all projects. But lesser the flats, less chances of over crowding. I think people are buying this as they want it for personal use (
    reconfigurability). Hence less chances of tenants.

    >>
    400 families is a large group..even in societies of 200 families there are Solid disputes over taking over of RWA from builder, etc.
    Solely depends on occupants. One Rotten can rot the whole lot

    again, bigger the society, chances of one rotten ??? would be higher.
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  • Hi IGRM

    If few people are of a same office , then will they get the same IP address .
    For instance
    There are so many people in this forum who are working at ST and adobe ...
    Will they get the same ip , in case if they login from office ..

    PS: Don't block me for asking this silly (but technical question )
    Originally Posted by IGRM
    MEMBERS BEWARE :bab (3):

    gogia_mohit I.P 139.181.143.34

    Other user ID's created with the same I.P

    enggsaurabh
    mbhatia
    m_goel
    rahulaga78
    vsangal
    yogi_raj_143


    anuj_r I.P: 202.67.6.11

    Other user ID's created with the same I.P

    Sunil60
    sumankat2008
    modgil1980


    Kindly inform ADMIN on the posts/threads created by the above. All such posts/threads will be completely deleted from the forum.
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  • Originally Posted by pravinchaudhary
    Hi Zohalib, while we evaluate a project, we have to compare among the choices available. We cant get any project tailor made to our needs, unless we build it ourselves.

    >> 400 appts for 5.5 acres is High density

    But it is lower than 80/acre. Most projects in Noida today are around 125/acre. Hence relatively this is low density.

    >>
    Solely depends on Maintenance agency and Later your RWA..Not on builder. I have seen societies of 200 families having such issues whereas societies of 1000 appts had better security..It has nothing to do with builder...

    Mohit didn't say that this is due to builder! He said this is due to 400 flats. Yes, 200 flats may have issues and 1000 may not, but generally issues would be proportional to th no of residents.

    >>
    400 Families in 5.5 acres is on higher side. Club, pool crowd depends on type of families residing. If you have young couples with kids..they will usually be in parks and clubs will be full in weekends only.
    This you will come to know only when you have started living...Tenants are a bigger nuisance in societies for such matters


    Again, this is all same for all projects. But lesser the flats, less chances of over crowding. I think people are buying this as they want it for personal use (
    reconfigurability). Hence less chances of tenants.

    >>
    400 families is a large group..even in societies of 200 families there are Solid disputes over taking over of RWA from builder, etc.
    Solely depends on occupants. One Rotten can rot the whole lot

    again, bigger the society, chances of one rotten ??? would be higher.


    seems mr pravin chaudhary too is related to mr mohit , who apparently has been suspended now..

    such a delima who's advise to trust around here on IREF..

    my mantra is "not to trust even your wife ( forget freinds) while dealing in real estate"
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  • Ha ha ha

    If only you had read my post on page 3, which is given below in green:

    Well, I am an end user, not an investor. Still I am not going for it. Following reasons:

    1. Plot closed from 3 sides.
    2. Sub-district centre and metro station in front. Expect too much nuisance.
    3. Only 5 acre plot. This makes the central green area very small. Please visit the site actually to see how big the plot is.
    4. If the project is delivered ON time as stressed and sub-district centre/metro construction starts after that, even bigger nuisance and pollution till it ends. The road facing flats may have their exterior paints blackened! If eel this holds true for Sikka, morpheus and antriksh golf view as well.


    You don't need to trust anyone's advise. What is going on here is reasoning.

    Originally Posted by nifty001

    seems mr pravin chaudhary too is related to mr mohit , who apparently has been suspended now..

    such a delima who's advise to trust around here on IREF..

    my mantra is "not to trust even your wife ( forget freinds) while dealing in real estate"
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  • Originally Posted by nibha
    Hi IGRM

    If few people are of a same office , then will they get the same IP address .
    For instance
    There are so many people in this forum who are working at ST and adobe ...
    Will they get the same ip , in case if they login from office ..


    nibha,

    i think IP is valid for 1 computer not for complete domain/office space.

    pls read below from wikipedia

    An Internet Protocol address (IP address) is a numerical label that is assigned to devices participating in a computer network that uses the Internet Protocol for communication between its nodes
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  • Originally Posted by nifty001
    nibha,

    i think IP is valid for 1 computer not for complete domain/office space.

    pls read below from wikipedia

    An Internet Protocol address (IP address) is a numerical label that is assigned to devices participating in a computer network that uses the Internet Protocol for communication between its nodes


    have you actually ever heard of a proxy?
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  • Nibha IP adress will be different for different computers. No 2 machines have same IP address.
    Anyways I always had my doubts about Anuj_r, the way he was promoting Antriksh.....

    Originally Posted by nibha
    Hi IGRM

    If few people are of a same office , then will they get the same IP address .
    For instance
    There are so many people in this forum who are working at ST and adobe ...
    Will they get the same ip , in case if they login from office ..

    PS: Don't block me for asking this silly (but technical question )
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  • Thas not true ...
    All the comps in my office have same ip ...
    Originally Posted by amol8080
    Nibha IP adress will be different for different computers. No 2 machines have same IP address.
    Anyways I always had my doubts about Anuj_r, the way he was promoting Antriksh.....
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  • Originally Posted by amol8080
    Nibha IP adress will be different for different computers. No 2 machines have same IP address.
    Anyways I always had my doubts about Anuj_r, the way he was promoting Antriksh.....


    You are correct that no 2 machines can have same IP address but that's true for machines within a company, whenever IP address is exposed externally it will be same irrespective from which machine u r logged in.
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  • Very Silly

    This is absolutely silly. These are probably just colleagues in same company.

    139.181.143.34 belongs to mentor graphics (check http://www.ip-adress.com/ip_tracer) and different computer within mentor graphics can very well have the same externally visible IP.

    Similarly 202.67.6.11 belongs to Tech Mahindra.

    I will suggest you enable their accounts .

    Thanks,

    Multiple ID's for same user:

    anarain 203.92.34.194
    ggupta 203.92.34.194
    pankajk12 203.92.34.194
    prabhas27 203.92.34.194
    random 203.92.34.194
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  • Ha Ha

    Wikipedia is for dummies. Gives generic info....

    I just showed you that all those guys were from Mentor graphics. THEY CAN HAVE SAME IP.
    Mr Mohit, being from Mentor is praising his property in his boss's project. So , what is wrong in that ??? Everyone out here is praising their project...big deal.
    Even if it is his boss's project he wouldnt have blindly put in 50-70lakhs and he is sharing his reasons here. I don't see anything wrong in that. He is just as good or bad as anyone else on this forum (except brokers , maybe :) )

    Cheers,

    Originally Posted by nifty001
    nibha,

    i think IP is valid for 1 computer not for complete domain/office space.

    pls read below from wikipedia

    An Internet Protocol address (IP address) is a numerical label that is assigned to devices participating in a computer network that uses the Internet Protocol for communication between its nodes
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  • But since all the ids are from mentor , it is possible that they are being created by same person ...
    Another thing , there is a conflict of interest (when a mentor person says some thing about helios ...

    I guess a better way to verify is to check the other ips from which they have ever logged in ...
    I am assuming these to be there home ips ...
    in case if it is same then it is the same person
    other wise different ...
    Like if u check my usage it will be from two ips
    office one and home one ...

    Originally Posted by sequence
    Wikipedia is for dummies. Gives generic info....

    I just showed you that all those guys were from Mentor graphics. THEY CAN HAVE SAME IP.
    Mr Mohit, being from Mentor is praising his property in his boss's project. So , what is wrong in that ??? Everyone out here is praising their project...big deal.
    Even if it is his boss's project he wouldnt have blindly put in 50-70lakhs and he is sharing his reasons here. I don't see anything wrong in that. He is just as good or bad as anyone else on this forum (except brokers , maybe :) )

    Cheers,
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  • Lesson to be learned

    When it comes to your money...donot trust blogs, sites, newspapers..or even word of mouth publicity......Take some time out...Donot go to project direct....look around...see whats happening...try to find out about builder..

    Here are 2 Simple Tips:

    1.Instead of typing "XXX Builder Best" on Google...Type "XXX Builder Complaints" and see what you get.....Do some research....and then decide

    2. Approach a few brokers as a "Seller" tell him you have a property in so and so project (the one everyone says is best..once in a lifetime)...and want to resale it at a premium and move to a better project (ask him for advice..ki which is better than this property you "claim" to have) and then see the answer...

    These dumb brokers are 10th fail and lack any refinement...their behaviour is programmed..as a buyer they behave in a diff way and when you want to sell...they suddenly change....The dumbest lot....believe me...
    ITS SAD THAT REAL ESTATE business is in the hands of these Unqualified Jokers...

    AND PLS FOR GODS SAKE.....

    Its not the BEST Location, BEST PROJECT, ONCE IN A LIFETIME PRICE, ONCE IN A LIFETIME Oppurtunity....followed by " Give me a confirmation by today evening sir, so i can take cheque from your place"

    EVEN THE SOLD OUT PROJECTS HAVE AVAILABILITY..Believe me...its all Bullshit...Its all about "Show me the Money"

    At least NOW...
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  • Originally Posted by sequence
    This is absolutely silly. These are probably just colleagues in same company.

    139.181.143.34 belongs to mentor graphics (check http://www.ip-adress.com/ip_tracer) and different computer within mentor graphics can very well have the same externally visible IP.

    Similarly 202.67.6.11 belongs to Tech Mahindra.

    I will suggest you enable their accounts .

    Thanks,


    pls note that at mentor graphics there is whole range of ip's subscribed to and it is from 139.181.0.0 - 139.181.255.255 ( source - http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-139-181-0-0-1)

    and in all big companies which allow acess to its employees they set router DCHP enabled so it will automatically assign each computer a ip adress, the ip adresses then are unique even if all systems are connected on lan

    ssuch a feature is done to detect and avoid any fraud or properitery data being stolen using company uplinks.

    thus if IREF is using same feature to detect multiple users as in this case should not be suspected..

    by all means they are same individuals using different id to resolve purpose known best to them...

    here on this forum- it may be promoting 1 odd project ...
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