Jaypee Greens Wishtown, Noida

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October 12 2014, 07:23 PM

firstimebuy

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#3221

Re : Jaypee Greens Wishtown, Noida

October 12 2014, 07:23 PM

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1. Excavation for kba and orchards started together. Progress is to be seen . Kba has given fastest construction in wish town
2. Ahluwalia, comp, and bl goyal are the 3 contractors for this project. Ahluwalia has the highest number of towers. About 11 out of the 22. Comp has towers 15-18 and the rest with goyal.
3. Jaypee has not given any orders to slow down the work at least in kba right now. Contractors have overachieved the construction target. This guy was even expecting his performance bonus to come shortly
4. Some towers have started plaster work and door frames, shuttering job etc
5. Possession will be given in 1.5 years from today

I then went to the site office to meet a direct sales representative. Luckily I found a friend working for jaypee and asked for his PoV. His views were:
1. No property in noida and g noida like wt when completed but there is a huge 'when' attached 
2. Would not invest his own money in jaypee. 
3. Company has debt problem but is trying to reduce it. Salary comes every month unlike unitech but is coming later than usual
4. Company did well in jaiprakash gaur days but the third generation comprises of many cousin sisters and brothers. Everyone wants decision making power and this leads to conflicts within the management. No unity in Management
5. Construction is slow as jaypee gives headaches to contractors in giving payment. Some contractors have struggled to take payments of as low as 1 crore from jaypee for 1-2 years
6. L and t is out of kube coz of payment issues and is only working on few towers in orchards
 
All in all he advised me not to invest here coz of the risk"
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I saw the site yesterday. Labour deployed in the towers is tooooo less compared to the work left. Most of this little labour on this site was in towers where roof shaft has not been put. Tried clicking some pictures but was stopped by a man on the site who said he represents jaypee and not from any contractor. Asked him for updates on the project and this is what his PoV
1. Excavation for kba and orchards started together. Progress is to be seen . Kba has given fastest construction in wish town
2. Ahluwalia, comp, and bl goyal are the 3 contractors for this project. Ahluwalia has the highest number of towers. About 11 out of the 22. Comp has towers 15-18 and the rest with goyal.
3. Jaypee has not given any orders to slow down the work at least in kba right now. Contractors have overachieved the construction target. This guy was even expecting his performance bonus to come shortly
4. Some towers have started plaster work and door frames, shuttering job etc
5. Possession will be given in 1.5 years from today

I then went to the site office to meet a direct sales representative. Luckily I found a friend working for jaypee and asked for his PoV. His views were:
1. No property in noida and g noida like wt when completed but there is a huge 'when' attached
2. Would not invest his own money in jaypee.
3. Company has debt problem but is trying to reduce it. Salary comes every month unlike unitech but is coming later than usual
4. Company did well in jaiprakash gaur days but the third generation comprises of many cousin sisters and brothers. Everyone wants decision making power and this leads to conflicts within the management. No unity in Management
5. Construction is slow as jaypee gives headaches to contractors in giving payment. Some contractors have struggled to take payments of as low as 1 crore from jaypee for 1-2 years
6. L and t is out of kube coz of payment issues and is only working on few towers in orchards

All in all he advised me not to invest here coz of the risk

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#3222

October 12 2014, 10:01 PM

rahul40

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Re : Jaypee Greens Wishtown, Noida

October 12 2014, 10:01 PM

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  string(985) "[QUOTE=gauravkm;1210681]I have a flat in Kube. As people here know, the construction has come to a standstill. Can somebody tell me more about the following:
What i can do here? I have already written to them. 
I am planning to go there again and meet senior officials. Who should i meet?
I had read that i can file a complaint with CCI. 
What would be the financial cost of doing so? 
Is that a one tine cost or would it involve continuous litigation costs? 
How much time would it take to file the complaint? 
Would the complaint cause Jaypee to sit up and take notice?
Are Kube buyers eligible to make the complaint? (In the sense, that i got a unit in this project only in 2012. The PAL says possession in 36 months. Which Jaypee has already changed to 54 months. Can this be the basis of the complaint?)

Are any group meetings planned for a meetup with the Jaypee officials?[/QUOTE]


if u seriously willing to file into CCI, ? THEN CONTACT ME,
ITS NOT A CHILD PLAY"
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Originally posted by gauravkm View Post

I have a flat in Kube. As people here know, the construction has come to a standstill. Can somebody tell me more about the following:
What i can do here? I have already written to them.
I am planning to go there again and meet senior officials. Who should i meet?
I had read that i can file a complaint with CCI.
What would be the financial cost of doing so?
Is that a one tine cost or would it involve continuous litigation costs?
How much time would it take to file the complaint?
Would the complaint cause Jaypee to sit up and take notice?
Are Kube buyers eligible to make the complaint? (In the sense, that i got a unit in this project only in 2012. The PAL says possession in 36 months. Which Jaypee has already changed to 54 months. Can this be the basis of the complaint?)

Are any group meetings planned for a meetup with the Jaypee officials?

if u seriously willing to file into CCI, ? THEN CONTACT ME,
ITS NOT A CHILD PLAY

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October 13 2014, 11:42 PM

Aviral79

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Re : Jaypee Greens Wishtown, Noida

October 13 2014, 11:42 PM

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Hi All,

To further our cause (in addition to the ongoing Protest, Media releases and Legal consultations w.r.t. JP), we have joined our hands with various buyers / association representing different builder in NCR. This is not a formal body or association. This is just a simple banner with the tagline #giveusourhomes

As a flagship initiative, we are doing a grand march from GIP to Filmcity, Noida on 1-11-14.

a) Background of the banner: [url]http://www.noidaforum.com/ncr-home-buyers-unite-under-the-common-banner-giveusourhomes/[/url]
b) Link for registration: [url]https://www.facebook.com/events/369728779851086/[/url]

Thanks
JAYPEE BUYERS CORE TEAM"
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Jaypee Greens - Noida

Hi All,

To further our cause (in addition to the ongoing Protest, Media releases and Legal consultations w.r.t. JP), we have joined our hands with various buyers / association representing different builder in NCR. This is not a formal body or association. This is just a simple banner with the tagline #giveusourhomes

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a) Background of the banner: http://www.noidaforum.com/ncr-home-b...iveusourhomes/
b) Link for registration: https://www.facebook.com/events/369728779851086/

Thanks
JAYPEE BUYERS CORE TEAM

Last edited October 13 2014, 11:48 PM.

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October 14 2014, 11:20 AM

dineshsays

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Re : Jaypee Greens Wishtown, Noida

October 14 2014, 11:20 AM

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Apparently, JP Gaur got very upset and pulled up his sons - 'tumne mera nak katwa diya' etc

Point is, what you guys did has definitely had an impact and while it is too early to say JP has woken up - the combined effect is far more desirable than had we done nothing

We were also discussing that a follow-up meeting would be very very desirous (key aspect is more presence) - a lot more media etc

Focus of-course being delivery along with other key aspects (for which I think court has to be approached)

Also, JP is facing a lot of trouble in terms of settling their debts, which everyone knows. While their priority may be that (last news is debt has increased to 72000 CR), we should not give them any breathing space for them to think we are second in line.

Net net - we must mobilize WITH STRENGTH IN NUMBERS and with MEDIA, with real THREATS or of actual LITIGATION

I think its great you are joining hands and protesting as above, but a JP specific show of strength, as well coordinated as last time - is really required

Just my humble opinion!"
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Aviral - some small tidbits I got from a relative (who worked with the JP group for long) - within the group, the 30th August agitation has had a pretty major effect.

Apparently, JP Gaur got very upset and pulled up his sons - 'tumne mera nak katwa diya' etc

Point is, what you guys did has definitely had an impact and while it is too early to say JP has woken up - the combined effect is far more desirable than had we done nothing

We were also discussing that a follow-up meeting would be very very desirous (key aspect is more presence) - a lot more media etc

Focus of-course being delivery along with other key aspects (for which I think court has to be approached)

Also, JP is facing a lot of trouble in terms of settling their debts, which everyone knows. While their priority may be that (last news is debt has increased to 72000 CR), we should not give them any breathing space for them to think we are second in line.

Net net - we must mobilize WITH STRENGTH IN NUMBERS and with MEDIA, with real THREATS or of actual LITIGATION

I think its great you are joining hands and protesting as above, but a JP specific show of strength, as well coordinated as last time - is really required

Just my humble opinion!

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October 14 2014, 12:19 PM

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Also - one more thing we need to focus on is getting hold of as-built/as-approved plans.

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This may also help us challenge any super area increase as well

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October 14 2014, 03:11 PM

subupundir

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Re : Jaypee Greens Wishtown, Noida

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Bad days gone guys. Draft has been issued with proper notification for NGT issue on bird santuary, ohhla.

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October 14 2014, 05:00 PM

dragoman

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Re : Jaypee Greens Wishtown, Noida

October 14 2014, 05:00 PM

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Also as per Jaypee 4000 units will be offered possession once NGT issue will be formally cleared in next six months. Lets see if they stick to their commitment . 

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is it a Draft or a final Notification ? I could not understand the word Draft here ...

Also as per Jaypee 4000 units will be offered possession once NGT issue will be formally cleared in next six months. Lets see if they stick to their commitment .

Dragoman

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October 14 2014, 07:37 PM

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Re : Jaypee Greens Wishtown, Noida

October 14 2014, 07:37 PM

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Also as per Jaypee 4000 units will be offered possession once NGT issue will be formally cleared in next six months. Lets see if they stick to their commitment . 

Dragoman[/QUOTE]

The fact that it is on national gazette and that they have a map in the end showing the area restricted with some wording somewhere about 1.27kms... i think is pretty good. Baaki it is sarkaari way of doing things so they have wording about asking for any objections from any parties etc but i believe Modi govt. has made its intentions absolutely clear and which in short is that environmental clearances cannot hold progress and development so i believe this is it...There was too much money riding on this decision so the outcome is not surprising at all...but nevertheless a huge sigh of relief...

Diwali gift i say...
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Originally posted by dragoman View Post

The fact that it is on national gazette and that they have a map in the end showing the area restricted with some wording somewhere about 1.27kms... i think is pretty good. Baaki it is sarkaari way of doing things so they have wording about asking for any objections from any parties etc but i believe Modi govt. has made its intentions absolutely clear and which in short is that environmental clearances cannot hold progress and development so i believe this is it...There was too much money riding on this decision so the outcome is not surprising at all...but nevertheless a huge sigh of relief...

Diwali gift i say...

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October 14 2014, 11:49 PM

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[QUOTE=BryanAdams;1214405]The fact that it is on national gazette and that they have a map in the end showing the area restricted with some wording somewhere about 1.27kms... i think is pretty good. Baaki it is sarkaari way of doing things so they have wording about asking for any objections from any parties etc but i believe Modi govt. has made its intentions absolutely clear and which in short is that environmental clearances cannot hold progress and development so i believe this is it...There was too much money riding on this decision so the outcome is not surprising at all...but nevertheless a huge sigh of relief...

Diwali gift i say...
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Hold thy horses sir. Notification is asking is anybody has objections then report... the team who raised this issue will not accept this boundary and will file objection. It may go back to court where they by and large should clear far distances and work on 1-2 km range. Only time will tell... I am waiting for my PVH unit..

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October 15 2014, 02:13 AM

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Re : Jaypee Greens Wishtown, Noida

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Jaypee Greens - Noida

Originally posted by nitinitin View Post

Who is the expert the guys who raised the issue and going to further raise objection or 2 states engineers and PWD department who took months to come to conclusion. they can do whatever they like but NGT has very limited options after MOEF notification, For them reprieve can only come if SC stay the notification and chances are unlikely.
This is detailed notification and I am sure Govt. would have done their homework.

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