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  • Re : 3C Lotus Boulevard by The 3C Company in Sector 100, Noida

    Originally posted by enduser007 View Post
    Its better to take CC issue to supreme court and let SC manage the show and if this become reality then MSY / ASY will loose big chunk of money for their forth coming election 2014. We should ask supreme court to make independent body or make Noida freehold to avoid these kind of tactics.
    Another way CC will come if their is fall within SP which is not possible right now and may be possible after 2014.
    I'm no lawyer or have much legal experience (thankfully) - but is it possible to take something straight to SC without going to Lower Courts first?

    Second - I doubt this will help - see there would be a million small things that 3C would not have done which NA would pinpoint and 3C would be on the backfoot. After that NA will become 100% lakir ka fakir and would make it even harder for anyone to get CC

    Fire safety test - give reports, environment check - get reports, rainwater harvesting - prove it, lift failure check, all civil construction completed - else all other areas properly cordoned off, earthquake resistance simulation, 100% conformance check to submitted plan etc etc etc - you get the idea how difficult NA can make life if they wanted.

    See - even now, while the real motive may be money, NA will not be providing CC because 3C would not have ticked a few boxes (less important ones) and 3C knows about it

    Just an opinion - cant confirm this

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    • Re : 3C Lotus Boulevard by The 3C Company in Sector 100, Noida

      First of all , Legal matter should be used only as last resort.

      This matter can directly be sent to SC as this is policy violation and harrassment to general public by way of delaying issuance of CC. Like you mentioned that there might be lacunae in LB 3C project and i definitely agree with you. But this will be binding for all builders in NA area and everybody has to comply with laid down rules if the issuance of CC goes to Sub judice and then Babus in NA wont get anything and become bankrupt.
      Thats what nobody is issued CC so far as establishment want share and consent from all affected parties. MSY / ASY both are practical and they donot want to hurt their public image before 2014 election. Thats why its wait and watch game. lets see who breaks first and i strongly believe in gandhiji and this really works either in small amount or big.

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      • Re : 3C Lotus Boulevard by The 3C Company in Sector 100, Noida

        All blaim on NA only , how easily we believe the builders
        Digvijay

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        • Re : 3C Lotus Boulevard by The 3C Company in Sector 100, Noida

          Originally posted by enduser007 View Post
          Its better to take CC issue to supreme court and let SC manage the show and if this become reality then MSY / ASY will loose big chunk of money for their forth coming election 2014. We should ask supreme court to make independent body or make Noida freehold to avoid these kind of tactics.
          Another way CC will come if their is fall within SP which is not possible right now and may be possible after 2014.
          hahahha...no offence made but kal sir aap bolo ge LB mein paani nahin aa raha chalo supreme court! Supreme court hai koi NA authority ka park thodi hai kabhi bhi chaldo....

          you cannot just go to SC because 500 people have not got posession on time. Also its not a public issue, 500 people does not make it an issue of public interest, it has to be general public at large. I had mentioned in my earlier post in LP a few days back as to why there may be a delay in possesion, please read it if you have time.

          Though builder starts giving possesion in phases it is not the case with NA to grant CC in that phase to the builder. CC is generally given on percentage basis for e.g if the total area of LB project is 40 acres than NA would grant CC to the builder after he has completed minimum of lets say 30% of the total area which would be 12 acres of developed and completed project. Only a few towers completed doesnt make builder eligible for CC. Builder may say what ever to the consumers. You imagine for all practical reasons is phase 1 really ready to be moved in considering the quantum of construction going around? No its not but we Indians generally dont care about the safety issues, dust problems, swamps near by or security concerns. All we need is an apartment once it is completed and Builder exploits the same. Now I am sure Builder would be negotiating with the Authority to give them CC despite the area completed is far less than the industry norms and NA must be negotiating hard with them to get the maximum to change the bye laws. Hence the delay.

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          • Re : 3C Lotus Boulevard by The 3C Company in Sector 100, Noida

            Originally posted by rohan15 View Post
            Though builder starts giving possesion in phases it is not the case with NA to grant CC in that phase to the builder. CC is generally given on percentage basis for e.g if the total area of LB project is 40 acres than NA would grant CC to the builder after he has completed minimum of lets say 30% of the total area which would be 12 acres of developed and completed project. Only a few towers completed doesnt make builder eligible for CC. Builder may say what ever to the consumers. You imagine for all practical reasons is phase 1 really ready to be moved in considering the quantum of construction going around? No its not but we Indians generally dont care about the safety issues, dust problems, swamps near by or security concerns. All we need is an apartment once it is completed and Builder exploits the same. Now I am sure Builder would be negotiating with the Authority to give them CC despite the area completed is far less than the industry norms and NA must be negotiating hard with them to get the maximum to change the bye laws. Hence the delay.
            Correct position in this regard is as under:


            1. The builder is required to complete atleast 15% of the FAR in first phase of the project within three years from the date of lease agreement.

            2. A project can be completed in maximum of five phases within a total period of 7 years ( extendable upto 10 years with penalty).
            VKS

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            • Re : 3C Lotus Boulevard by The 3C Company in Sector 100, Noida

              Total area of LB is 30 acres ( LB Espasia with 10 acres of area is a separate project). It has around 3150 flats. Therefore, 15% of FAR will come out to be around 475 flats. So atleat 475 flats are required to be delivered in the first phase. The five towers said to be ready for delivery have just 240 flats. This may be the reason for delay in granting NOC for phase-1 of LB.

              I am convinced more with this reason looking at the progress of phase-3 in LP. LP has around 3950 flats and 15% of FAR would be atleast 600 flats. The three towers in phase-1 of LP have only 270 flats. Towers 8, 9 and 10 which are adjecent to phase-1 towers were perhaps fastest in construction so that the issue of 15% can be taken care of and these towers can be delivered as part of phase-1.
              Last edited by vksharma2020; July 25 2012, 10:27 AM.
              VKS

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              • Re : 3C Lotus Boulevard by The 3C Company in Sector 100, Noida

                Your reasoning might be the true in light of LB but sofar none of projects in NA, GDA has started possession or drawing approved for new projects as establishment is settling and trying to fix price of each work.
                Same thing happened in BMW regime and it was fixed that registry in Noida will be done with minimum charge of gandhiji and this gandhiji was sent to many people in hierarchy...... Its wait and watch policy as MSY / ASY (SP) need support of gandhiji and price is fixed for all works ...... rest is get going....
                Its not 3C scandal in farmhouse land case....... nobody is bothered abt it.

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                • Re : 3C Lotus Boulevard by The 3C Company in Sector 100, Noida

                  Originally posted by vksharma2020 View Post
                  Correct position in this regard is as under:


                  1. The builder is required to complete atleast 15% of the FAR in first phase of the project within three years from the date of lease agreement.

                  2. A project can be completed in maximum of five phases within a total period of 7 years ( extendable upto 10 years with penalty).
                  1. what happens if 15% could not be completed within 3 years? Does the builder then have to complete the 30% together?

                  2. what happens if total project is not complete in 10 years? This may actually happen with Jaypee and Unitech.

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                  • Re : 3C Lotus Boulevard by The 3C Company in Sector 100, Noida

                    BTW when is the scheduled completion of LB phase 2? How much inventory dose phase -2 adds to already ready phase -1.

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                    • Re : 3C Lotus Boulevard by The 3C Company in Sector 100, Noida

                      Originally posted by vksharma2020 View Post
                      Total area of LB is 30 acres ( LB Espasia with 10 acres of area is a separate project). It has around 3150 flats. Therefore, 15% of FAR will come out to be around 475 flats. So atleat 475 flats are required to be delivered in the first phase. The five towers said to be ready for delivery have just 240 flats. This may be the reason for delay in granting NOC for phase-1 of LB.

                      I am convinced more with this reason looking at the progress of phase-3 in LP. LP has around 3950 flats and 15% of FAR would be atleast 600 flats. The three towers in phase-1 of LP have only 270 flats. Towers 8, 9 and 10 which are adjecent to phase-1 towers were perhaps fastest in construction so that the issue of 15% can be taken care of and these towers can be delivered as part of phase-1.
                      That exactly was my point, 30 % was just an example. If your facts and figures are correct than this exactly might be the situation. Also, everything is at the mercy and discretion of NA and a new rule or exemption from the earlier one could be next. It all depends on how happy 3C guys keep them. An order from GM property of NA to go ahead with possession of as little as 240 flats is not a big deal though you have to make him do so.

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