Hi All,

Have visited Aditya's- A Garden city recently. Their rates are 3000 psf to 3600 psf depending upon the Garden view and the building.

From outside the scheme looks very impressive and possession is also quite early.

Doses anybody has any perspective for the project??

Also what is your opinion about projects like Oravi, Vatika etc in Balewadi??
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  • Originally Posted by nimish1981
    Sorry to say this, but those who have a problem with slums, look out for a job in another city where you will have only "your kind of people". Apologies for this comment, but I have seen certain sections of society from specific regions with a superiority complex.


    Superiority complex is a relative word. If i think I am superior by education or financially, I have the right to stay in an area where I can "afford" to live.
    E.G: People moving from well established area do not enjoy living in "sub"-standard lifestyle due to neighbourhood.
    Just give it a thought. Your wife/girlfriend goes lonely or with you for a nice evening walk.The look on the onlookers face surely tells you that how your wife/GF is being looked.This feeling is very bad to the lady and ofcourse for you.Hence neighbourhood and community plays very important role in your day to day life. Idealism and one caste mentality is okay for discussion only when people around you think the same way. Unfortunately, some people (i say "ghati" to them) do not understand.
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  • Illgal slum development is directly proportional to the city development... best example is Mumbai...

    It is partially because of minimum wedge issues... people want Kamwali bai to come and work and would want her to come on specific time etc... now many of them would not be able to purchase or rent in the decent areas, so they have no other way to stay in slums.

    So 10 new flats come up = 5 new kaamvali requirements = 5 new people in nearby slums.

    Now multiply that with all domestic help areas one needs (plumber, electrician, bakery, laundry/dry cleaning, gardner, washing autos, paperwala, and many more).
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  • I definitely agree withh Punerebuyer here.. In pune I have seen huge problem with kamwali bai .. and their drama's and demands in hike of monthly salary. It is going to be problem in pune everywhere due to population.

    So if your flat is in a remote area where there are no slums that means your mthly cost of kamwali will increase by atleast 500Rs.
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  • Originally Posted by w_sanjay
    I definitely agree withh Punerebuyer here.. In pune I have seen huge problem with kamwali bai .. and their drama's and demands in hike of monthly salary. It is going to be problem in pune everywhere due to population.

    So if your flat is in a remote area where there are no slums that means your mthly cost of kamwali will increase by atleast 500Rs.


    there are only two options...

    1. We need to understand that Kaamwali bai is also facing inflation pinch so increase their wedges... i personally will not call their grievances as 'drama'.. many times their demands are legitimate. So first option is that one pays the kaamwali bai as she asks (with reasonable limits) for her also have a decent quality of life.

    OR

    2. One may decide that s/he cannot pay the wedges requested by the bai hence one cannot afford the services. In that case you have an option to do the tasks yourself... or have her come less frequently. It is just like if you cannot afford to give your cloths to dry cleaners every day, you iron them at home... :-)

    In my opinion, one should always be physically and mentally prepared to do any chores around the house... just by some small work at home, you may not need that expensive gym subscription... ;)
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  • Originally Posted by abicash1

    The numerous rape cases,bride burnings,suicides and culpable homicides that we read are perpetrated grossly by the great Indian middle class ,statistically, which seldom will stay in slums.


    Right said.
    Middle-class considers itself to be protector of culture. But mostly live meekly and ready to bend its back :D
    You will see them fighting with bus-conductor or vendors for 1 Rs change but meekly bribe 50 Rs to police.
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  • Originally Posted by nimish1981
    Sorry to say this, but those who have a problem with slums, look out for a job in another city where you will have only "your kind of people". Apologies for this comment, but I have seen certain sections of society from specific regions with a superiority complex.

    Look here man, the place where I used to stay earlier (during school days), the maid was there for 15+ yrs & yep, she too was like family one. The issue is not having superiority or inferiority complex (I too have driven cycle & my first salary was INR 3000/month, less than what our person who washes the cars make), so I have gone through all this.

    Issue as Harish said is their general lookout. You simply go with your GF to upper Indira nagar, having power dressing & see the stares. Even now when I need to make a site visit for house search, I park the vehicle somewhere a bit far from the site & go very, very averagely dressed with Nok_ia 1110 handset;) (though some suspicion is there:o). If not, look at the stares you get from on-lookers.

    No one is denying the fact that they are not less than humans, never would we disagree with that. But man, writing or saying as a social worker & doing it in real is far different. Add to it the stink which emanates from slum areas, you will feel dizzy if you get exposed a lot to it.

    Btw, one of my friend had parked his Audi near Wadarwadi for less than 30 mins & the Audi's emblem got stolen. This doesn't mean that all residents of wadarwadi ae theives but the ratio of total population : criminals is high. You can even ask rickwalas, they won't take you in here easily.

    To conclude:- Seen HNIs without principles, even sadistic wife beaters; poor people with good morals as well:). But the fact is person may be good on individual level but collectively, it is not that case just like you may have burkha chap as a friend, but this doesn't mean one goes & stays at Kodhwa:D. Hope you got the point.
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  • Originally Posted by w_sanjay
    So if your flat is in a remote area where there are no slums that means your mthly cost of kamwali will increase by atleast 500Rs.

    It is worth than the headache which you face otherwise. I would rather say pay 5k/month to bai but stay in area where anyone in your family can feel secure walking in & out at anytime of the day/night without any security escorts. Man, god forbid if even a small theft takes place or you can't move around freely, this savings is nothing to the loss which you then have to face.
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  • Originally Posted by realacres
    It is worth than the headache which you face otherwise. I would rather say pay 5k/month to bai but stay in area where anyone in your family can feel secure walking in & out at anytime of the day/night without any security escorts. Man, god forbid if even a small theft takes place or you can't move around freely, this savings is nothing to the loss which you then have to face.


    Real, I did not get your point. You can have robberies in best places of the city.
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  • Originally Posted by hitmady
    Real, I did not get your point. You can have robberies in best places of the city.

    But sitting in the balcony, looking at a robber is a different thing!!
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  • Originally Posted by bheeshma
    Actually rajesh has a point, though unintentional. Slums or other forms of low cost housing nearby make it easy to source domestic help. You will really struggle to find domestic help otherwise & will end up paying a bomd even for basic housekeeping services.


    Hmm, You finally see point in my post:D, but still don't understand it 100% Wonder what makes you feel its "unintentional"
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  • I am not being idealistic here to say that slums do not cause ANY nuissance in the neighborhood.
    The main issue where all this started was the MHADA housing near Aditya Garden and the one in Baner. Now keep in mind that these are NOT slums and just low cost housing projects. They will be just like normal standalone flats, much smaller in size and with only very basic amenities.
    My only point is that don't discard some project JUST BECAUSE there is a MHADA project in the nearby area.
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  • Originally Posted by pune_real
    I am not being idealistic here to say that slums do not cause ANY nuissance in the neighborhood.
    The main issue where all this started was the MHADA housing near Aditya Garden and the one in Baner. Now keep in mind that these are NOT slums and just low cost housing projects. They will be just like normal standalone flats, much smaller in size and with only very basic amenities.
    My only point is that don't discard some project JUST BECAUSE there is a MHADA project in the nearby area.

    Well, this will be my last post on this topic here:-

    SRA is different than low cost housing. In Low cost housing, people need to pay while these schemes are being built free of cost. The real scenario is murkier. The authority lies with slum rehab board, which again is under it's Ministry. These slum board members too take up some houses here under false names & then rent it out. This way only the tax payers money is wasted while the needy still remain where they are. What happens is that only those slum dwellers having some political affiliation tend to get the houses here. Man, would you like to see a drunkard fallen at the entrance gate of your house? Have dens behind?

    Please differentiate SRA & low cost housing. I am against the former, not the later.
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  • go for oval nest

    Dont make mistake of buying flat here.Builder is pakka chor. He will strip you fully at the time of giving possesion letter in the form of maintanance,club house fees and what not.There r lot of hidden charges. Quality of construction is also poor along with small car parking.there is no municipal water line.worst is builder will not allow you to form a society.Oval Nest is better choice.
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