Hi All ,

I hear that the Blue Ridge Phase II is not doing well. Anyone having any updates on this scheme? What is the possession date for phase II? Heard a lot of cancellations have been happening there any idea please update.

Thanks in advance.
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  • Originally Posted by brres13
    superduper - i think forget it , lets agree and say, Yes townships are terrible.. nothing outside !! people born in gaons are goons.. and people born in cities have amazing civic sense and discipline while driving..
    Lets enjoy our "huge mistake".. instead of trying to convince people (who are not interested) .


    Brother, we are just sharing information about our experiences. I never made any blanket statement like "people born in cities have amazing civic sense".. BTW, pnq2012 mentioned this gaon problem exists even in Balewadi.

    When I am looking to buy, I have to look at all angles, including surroundings and locality. And why am I posting on this thread even though I do not own in BR? - Because I am a prospective buyer. T20 onwards, the floor plans are hopeless, but maybe I can get a good resale option. I think BR is a good scheme, but I am still not convinced entirely. And I do not see any good option in the market right now. Except a few schemes (Prolife, Greens, etc), Wakad has hopeless schemes.. builders selling just about anything to IT public.

    Also, Hinjewadi being unsafe finds a mention even on Wikipedia . Uske neeche to in sab townships kee ads bhi hain.
    Hinjawadi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Security is a major problem in this area. Women are the most vulnerable and crimes against women are fairly common . All companies in this area have been requested by police to not let women employees work at night and to be accompanied by professional security escorts.
    Roadside extortion of IT employees is also a fairly common occurrence. The modus operandi is very simple. One of the locals either jumps in front of a moving vehicle or brushes against it with his motorcycle / bicycle and pretends to be hit and hurt. A gang is already standing by and collect around the IT worker and subject him to dire threats and simple assault to extract some amount of petty cash and disperse before the police arrive.. All companies in this area have been requested by police to not let women employees work at night and to be accompanied by professional security escorts.
    Roadside extortion of IT employees is also a fairly common occurrence. The modus operandi is very simple. One of the locals either jumps in front of a moving vehicle or brushes against it with his motorcycle / bicycle and pretends to be hit and hurt. A gang is already standing by and collect around the IT worker and subject him to dire threats and simple assault to extract some amount of petty cash and disperse before the police arrive.. All companies in this area have been requested by police to not let women employees work at night and to be accompanied by professional security escorts.
    Roadside extortion of IT employees is also a fairly common occurrence. The modus operandi is very simple. One of the locals either jumps in front of a moving vehicle or brushes against it with his motorcycle / bicycle and pretends to be hit and hurt. A gang is already standing by and collect around the IT worker and subject him to dire threats and simple assault to extract some amount of petty cash and disperse before the police arrive.. All companies in this area have been requested by police to not let women employees work at night and to be accompanied by professional security escorts.
    Roadside extortion of IT employees is also a fairly common occurrence. The modus operandi is very simple. One of the locals either jumps in front of a moving vehicle or brushes against it with his motorcycle / bicycle and pretends to be hit and hurt. A gang is already standing by and collect around the IT worker and subject him to dire threats and simple assault to extract some amount of petty cash and disperse before the police arrive.. All companies in this area have been requested by police to not let women employees work at night and to be accompanied by professional security escorts.
    Roadside extortion of IT employees is also a fairly common occurrence. The modus operandi is very simple. One of the locals either jumps in front of a moving vehicle or brushes against it with his motorcycle / bicycle and pretends to be hit and hurt. A gang is already standing by and collect around the IT worker and subject him to dire threats and simple assault to extract some amount of petty cash and disperse before the police arrive.. All companies in this area have been requested by police to not let women employees work at night and to be accompanied by professional security escorts.
    Roadside extortion of IT employees is also a fairly common occurrence. The modus operandi is very simple. One of the locals either jumps in front of a moving vehicle or brushes against it with his motorcycle / bicycle and pretends to be hit and hurt. A gang is already standing by and collect around the IT worker and subject him to dire threats and simple assault to extract some amount of petty cash and disperse before the police arrive.. All companies in this area have been requested by police to not let women employees work at night and to be accompanied by professional security escorts.
    Roadside extortion of IT employees is also a fairly common occurrence. The modus operandi is very simple. One of the locals either jumps in front of a moving vehicle or brushes against it with his motorcycle / bicycle and pretends to be hit and hurt. A gang is already standing by and collect around the IT worker and subject him to dire threats and simple assault to extract some amount of petty cash and disperse before the police arrive.
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  • Originally Posted by Sat234
    T20 onwards, the floor plans are hopeless, but maybe I can get a good resale option.


    Can you elaborate ?

    my guess is that all towers on the circle have same floor plan (except for tower having 5bhks)
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  • Originally Posted by Sat234

    When I am looking to buy, I have to look at all angles, including surroundings and locality. And why am I posting on this thread even though I do not own in BR? - Because I am a prospective buyer. T20 onwards, the floor plans are hopeless, but maybe I can get a good resale option. I think BR is a good scheme, but I am still not convinced entirely. And I do not see any good option in the market right now. Except a few schemes (Prolife, Greens, etc), Wakad has hopeless schemes.. builders selling just about anything to IT public.
    Security


    Hey in that respect i agree with you, even if you are not a prospective buyer, you or anyone else is most welcome to post their views, and i guess the statements and taking offence of views posted is the hangover effect of a couple of back to back bickering posts which took place recently :)

    Yes even from the residents point of view or even those who plan on living there.. its good to know of the drawbacks as well..
    in fact it really more beneficial to know of the drawbacks, so genuine concerns are really helpful.. :)

    about the generalising of your statement about the gaon thing.. well.. same hangover effect .. so i do take it back
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  • Originally Posted by Baruch
    Can you elaborate ?

    my guess is that all towers on the circle have same floor plan (except for tower having 5bhks)


    Just check the floor plans on BR website for Tower 20 onwards. I am referring to 3bhk. They have oblique walls. Cannot use acute angles in the home, it is a dead space. And you have already paid for that carpet area. Plus it becomes an eyesore. Personally, I do not like angular walls inside the home.

    The floor plans for tower 11 and 14 looks good. Guess it must be sold out by now
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  • Originally Posted by brres13
    Hey in that respect i agree with you, even if you are not a prospective buyer, you or anyone else is most welcome to post their views, and i guess the statements and taking offence of views posted is the hangover effect of a couple of back to back bickering posts which took place recently :)

    Yes even from the residents point of view or even those who plan on living there.. its good to know of the drawbacks as well..
    in fact it really more beneficial to know of the drawbacks, so genuine concerns are really helpful.. :)

    about the generalising of your statement about the gaon thing.. well.. same hangover effect .. so i do take it back


    I understand. :)
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  • Originally Posted by Sat234
    Just check the floor plans on BR website for Tower 20 onwards. I am referring to 3bhk. They have oblique walls. Cannot use acute angles in the home, it is a dead space. And you have already paid for that carpet area. Plus it becomes an eyesore. Personally, I do not like angular walls inside the home.

    The floor plans for tower 11 and 14 looks good. Guess it must be sold out by now


    Oblique walls are in all towers I guess....thats to give the shape of circle to these towers...with so many competent interior designers around...that space can be utilized....for me that's not a deal breaker

    incidentally my wife too had similar apprehensions but I overruled her as - life is not about perfect but best amongst the possible options
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  • those of us who already are staying at Blue Ridge, please suggest which is the best tower for Air-flow. Have noticed the winds are better in the new towers to the north T9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 when facing golf course, whereas the wind flow in towers on the west, T1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 are totally still when facing the golf course.

    Is it a valid observation? i have only visited the BR once.

    Which direction facing is considered better in terms of wind flow?
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  • Originally Posted by humble_guy
    those of us who already are staying at Blue Ridge, please suggest which is the best tower for Air-flow. Have noticed the winds are better in the new towers to the north T9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 when facing golf course, whereas the wind flow in towers on the west, T1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 are totally still when facing the golf course.

    Is it a valid observation? i have only visited the BR once.

    Which direction facing is considered better in terms of wind flow?


    Homes with most windows facing south-west are known to capture most of the breeze...:-).

    Homes with most windows facing west are known to capture most sunlight (in later part of the day)....:-(.

    Golf facing side of homes in towers 9-10-11 face SOUTH > west,
    in towers 12-13-14 face south < WEST.

    Farms facing side of homes in towers 1-8 face WEST.

    River facing side of homes in towers 20-23 will face SOUTH.

    Most windows in other homes will face north and east....

    Height should neutralize these differences.
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  • Originally Posted by Baruch
    Oblique walls are in all towers I guess....thats to give the shape of circle to these towers...with so many competent interior designers around...that space can be utilized....for me that's not a deal breaker

    incidentally my wife too had similar apprehensions but I overruled her as - life is not about perfect but best amongst the possible options


    3 BHKs with one slightly oblique wall in living-room are in towers 20-23 only.......as i recall.

    4 BHKs (in towers 10 and 13) all have one oblique wall as the last wall in last room at the end of the unit.

    I don't think... any other unit in any other tower has an oblique wall.
    That's just my impression...not sure.

    We touched this point few pages back in this thread....
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  • Originally Posted by bigbloodyt
    Time to shift the focus from conjecture to reality. I was provided a draft copy of the agreement for my flat in T23 and was scheduled to go for agreement in the next few days. After looking at the agreement, I have decided not to go for registration until the issues raised by me are addressed.

    I do not feel it is appropriate to put the agreement up in a public forum, however, I can put in a list of issues that I have sought clarification on (and the specific clauses/page numbers and explanations for my questions) for the easy reference of other BR buyers who may be in a position to answer some of them or may want to use my list as a reference. Additions to the list are also more than welcome.

    Here is my list:
    (Note: This is a list that I have mailed to BR and as such the statements are addressed to them.)

    I would also like to appeal to all readers that comments such as "BR & Paranjape is a chor" and general BR bashing would not be useful response to the post. My purpose in getting this information out there is to request the more informed folks on the forum to advise on the concerns/issues raised by me that are unfounded and the ones that are relevant.

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    Spelling Mistake
    Page 4 . Section n: 44.63 "Hector"?
    Misrepresentation
    Page 5. Section s. Part ii - This is not true - no such "explanation" was given and no commercial / shopping arcade was specified for Tower 23. If this does not apply, it should not be part of agreement or should specify the towers where it applies. (Explanation: The clause states that they are constructing a shopping/commercial arcade on ground & upper floors which may have shops, banks, restaurants, offices, bars, discotheques and other retail activities etc. and that the purchaser has been informed of this and has no objection to this.)
    Spelling/Grammar Mistake
    Page 6. Section s . Part viii - "car parings" - what is car parings?? Tennis and court separated by commas? "The commerical premises purchasers not enter…" should be rephrased as "Purchasers will not enter..". (Explanation: Common amenities listed in the clause and it is specified that the commercial purchasers cannot use the same)
    Misrepresentation
    Page 8. Section u - This is not true. I have not demanded and have not been given said documents (Explanation: Clause states that the purchaser is satified with title of the Owner/Promoter to the said Township Land, his rights to develop the said Township and to allot and sell the said Flat).
    Misrepresentation
    Page 8. Section w - Untrue - I have not been shown copies of these documents. (Explanation: Similar to above point, relates to documents of locational clearance, letter of intent, layout approval, resolution of BOD, power of attorney etc.)
    Clarification needed
    Page 12 - Clause 3.6 - Please clarify what does this mean? (Explanation: The clause states that the owner/promoter has unrestricted rights to allot/sell/transfer/convey open spaces, parking spaces, gardens, lobbies, staircases, terraces to any person/s of his choice).
    Clarification Needed
    Page 12 - Clause 3.10 - Too one sided in stating that amenities can be added/removed/changed/moved at owner/promoters discretion; This clause needs to say what will be given to purchaser in lieu of changes/modifications/deletions and purchasers consideration in case of any additions. Shifting/Moving is fine - but removing/adding altogether alters the essence on the agreement
    Clarification Needed
    Page 13/14 - Clause 4.1 (Related to completion of construction on or before 31 Dec 2017) - Are you trying to say that the expected completion date is December 2017 and could extend by 2 years more?? i.e. up to Dec 2019?? This is crazy; you are saying that it takes 4 years to build this (even though supposedly foundation is completed) and then are adding another 2 years of "buffer". This is baffling. Please include the planned projections for completion of the superstructure and finishing in the agreement.
    Clarification Needed
    Page 14. Clause 4.2 - Why is the penalty clause for delay on owner/ promoter calculated as only 9% simple interest whereas default of payment carries penalty of 21% interest as given in clause 2.5?
    Conflicting/Contradictory
    Page 15. Clause 5.1.1 - States that building contains 24 floors? (Contradicts page 35 i.e. Stamp Duty particulars)
    Conflicting/Contradictory
    Page 20. Clause 7.3 - What about moving household items - the clause needs rework - am I expected to move my fridge/bed in my "4 wheeler light vehicle"? (Explanation: The clause states that the purchaser will not bring any heavy vehicles inside said township land)
    Conflicting/Contradictory
    Page 21. Clause 7.8 - Define items, current clause too generic - "heavy" is relative. Combustible - my cigarette lighter contains combustible fluid - am I not allowed to carry it into the building? Heavy is in contradiction to clause 7.9 where "heavy" items are to be carried in the service elevator. (Explanation: The clause states that the purchaser will not store any goods which are hazardous, combustible, dangerous and heavy in nature)
    Mistake
    Page 21. Clause 7.9 - Are only men allowed to be purchasers?? Refer to line "He shall abide..". Please replace to be gender neutral or change to "She/He shall abide..".
    Clarification Needed
    Page 22. Clause 7.15 - There is no mention of intimation. Notice has to be given before you enter into said flat - reasonable time is too generic a term; what's reasonable for one person may not be for the other. (Explanation: The clause states that people may need to be given access to your flat to examine the state/condition of flat in case they are trying to resolve a defect).
    Misrepresentation
    Page 25. Clause 7.34 - Again, as per issue with Page 5 section 2 part ii - I have not been informed of any commercial space in tower 23 where I have made the booking.
    Misrepresentation
    Page 26/27 Clause 7.42 - Untrue - I have not been shown copies of these documents. (Similar to other clauses given above where it is stated that the owner/promoter has shown me all documents related to title deeds, clearances etc.)
    Clarification Needed
    Page 30. Clause 10.13 - Unfair - If the society does not have enough funds to cover the payment because 10 % people have not paid up (or 10 % flats are unsold and therefore the Owner/Promoter are not paying maintenance), why should the 90% who have paid up be subjected to the inconvenience and indignation of having utilities/services/amenities unavailable. What provision/relief is available in such a situation where individually, I may not be at fault, but collectively, the society may be at fault? (Explanation: The clause states that if the society defaults in payment of maintenance, the township management authority can disconnect utilities, supply of other services, not permit members of said society to use township amenities and levy fines/penalties on the amount due)
    Clarification Needed
    Page 30. Clause 10.17 - What does this mean? If someone comes to visit me, they will have to pay a toll/entry fee? This is completely unacceptable in its present form - please define "Outsiders" to clarify this point related to toll/entry fee. (Explanation: This clause states that the township management authority can impose and collect a toll/entry fee on outsiders for ingress to the township).
    Clarification Needed
    Page 31. Clause 10.23 - This is a clear case of violation of MRTPC - how can you provision a monopoly in a competitive sector? (Explanation: Related to the fact that the township management authority dictates which providers will be permitted to give telephone, internet and cable TV services)
    Conflicting/Contradictory
    Page 35. Total floors of tower - Noted as Ground + Stilt + 30 In direct contradiction of Clause 5.1.1 on Page 15.
    Conflicting/Contradictory
    Page 48. Annexure - L. The payment schedule needs to be modified to reflect 30 floors (If the information on Page 35 is accurate). (Explanation: The payment schedule specified herein only considers 24 slabs i.e. 90% payment to be given on 24th slab.)

    Big thanks to Bigbloodyt for sharing this information on this forum. I fully agree with all points raised by him and will take up these with BR folks. Below points are very crucial for everyone :

    1 - Completion time (should be Q2, 2016 as promised)
    2 - Payment schedule (should be revised for 30 floors)
    3 - Amenities modification (should not be allowed without approval from all buyers)
    4 - Shopping arcade in tower (should be removed)
    5 - Monopoly in internet, dth, telephone service (should be removed)
    6 - Utilities disconnection for society default (should be removed, should only apply to non paying member)

    Tower 20 to 23 buyers have already paid highest price but still being shortchanged with increase in floors without any corresponding increase in essential amenities (i.e. Lifts, Car parking, Club house etc.)

    Let us ensure that all these points are addressed before we sign the agreements.
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  • Originally Posted by rasrivas18


    Let us ensure that all these points are addressed before we sign the agreements.


    Tried speaking to BR about it and got the reply that "will check with legal team etc "
    the person we contacted didnt seem to know much.

    After you contact BR do post their reply etc.. as individually they might try to act a little high and mighty but we will have a decent say if quite a large number of people insist on getting these items rectified before signing the agreement.

    Looking forward to your replies.
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  • Originally Posted by brres13
    Tried speaking to BR about it and got the reply that "will check with legal team etc "
    the person we contacted didnt seem to know much.

    After you contact BR do post their reply etc.. as individually they might try to act a little high and mighty but we will have a decent say if quite a large number of people insist on getting these items rectified before signing the agreement.

    Looking forward to your replies.


    I haven't received a response to my mail/ call yet. The person I spoke to said that he will need to speak to his "HOD" before he can respond. I had told him that I can come over to speak to the HOD myself if needed and he told me that he'll let me know if that is indeed required.

    For now I have somewhat given up hope and am now exploring ready possession flats in BR or elsewhere. Am a little pissed off with the ambiguity and take it or leave it attitude that BR seems to be showing.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
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  • Originally Posted by Baruch
    this information will not help the discussion on this forum anyway...enough of personal slug-fest already....lets avoid it

    "I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single argument left." - Margaret Thatcher

    Maybe thats the reason you are asking everywhere to reopen thread of Q to RA. :D
    Funny thing is you are not throwing any light on delay of 2 yrs in agreement that too with words of TENTATIVE/APPROXIMATE. Whatever is bad about BR, you try to cover it up & then say Pune wadas & stuff like that. Also some members are asking genuine questions about how many ITGs working at HJW will buy or rent in BR or for that matter in HJW itself ? What is the end user : investor ratio in BR ? All BR bulls go blank on that.
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  • bigbloodyt,

    Very good work man. Appreciate it & even more the awareness you have shown is really good. :clap2:

    Man, pubs & discos in residential building ?? :bab (3): Tomorrow there can be wine shops also below the building & as these shops will be public, the local gaonwala scorpio chaps too can come in & create nuisance. You need to see to whom the shop can be sold or what type of shops can be opened also.

    There are projects where wine shop came in, drunkards & cheap public used to stand near entrance of society gate & pass lewd comments on passer-by. To avoid this, BR buyers must ensure agreement has list of types of commercial work/shops which can operate & which cannot.
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  • Sir Realacres,

    People who "book" an apartment in a township that will be built over next several years......are Investors.......whether they see it that way or not.

    A lot of them end-up living there full-time or some on weekends....... after waiting for a varying number of years.

    Some think that they will live there as soon as its completed....but their life-situation changes over next few years and they end up selling, giving it on rent or keeping it empty.

    Still others may have booked it for their children or some other future need.

    The length of wait and how the town-ship comes about after that wait is always unpredictable ( of course within some degrees ).

    Since one is plunging into something that doesn't exist and final outcome is unpredictable.......AND one is willing to take that risk.......he/she is an investor by definition.
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