All those who are reading this forum, by this time, are aware of the gimmicks played by the builders. Buyers, too, are responsible for falling for these. I am listing a few of them; you can add more to it.

1. Name of the building – you must have seen very fancy tongue-twisting names given to their projects by the builders. Buyer sees a lot of value in a project that is difficult to pronounce. He becomes happy at the thought of his friends and relatives not being able to pronounce his building name right the first time. Any foreign-sounding name sells. Take these – Capriccio, Aristo, Lorelle, Apostrophe, Finesse, Aldea Espanola(say that again!). Buyers prefer Tropez and Biarittz over Gulmohar, Shakuntala, Datta Nivas or Matru Kripa towers. Only exception is DSK who names his building very much desi.

2. Some fancy style of living – Ok, so you will have some builders telling you Swiss way of living near Kaspate Vasti. Or Spanish way of living near Mhasoba Gate. Or Swedish way of living near Kalewadi Phata. Portuguese way of living near Sutarwadi. Nobody tries to sell Indian way of living. You are not living your life fully if it is Indian. Come on, you dimwit, stop living Indian, try Lebanese style.


3. Giving some fancy names to their amenities. You will notice that they always say “Landscaped Garden”. If they say “Garden” nobody will be impressed. It has to be “Landscaped garden”. Nobody knows the difference between these but it makes you feel proud and superior when you tell some of your friends and relatives from your village that you live in a society that has Landscaped Garden, Luxurious Clubhouse, State Of The Art or Ultra Modern(whatever that means) Gym, Custom Designed(huh?) Elevators, Porte Cochere (what in the hell’s bathroom is that? Oh, That’s just the open space near the gate for offloading passengers.) – all for you if you pay me silly rate of 4300 per sq ft in Undri.

4. Some eco-friendly mumbo-jumbo. Zero pollution flats, Eco-friendly parking garage, virtual oxygen parlor, relaxation area for senior citizens (so, youngistan cannot relax their, ya?), acupressure walk (of 10 ft only!), Barbecue Area (hahaha, you need no more than 4 sq ft to keep your barbecue tri.pod) etc etc


My point is this. When looking for a flat, look for the carpet area, surroundings and security. You will never use that barbecue area and acupressure walk EVER in your life. Neither will you start appearing as successful as Federer when you start living Swiss way of life near Kaspate Vasti.
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  • Great & thanks for sharing .
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  • Originally Posted by mehar saini
    The Complainant in the prayer clause of the complaint has prayed for the compensation of Rs.50,000/-. On perusal of the documentary evidence produced by the Complainant, s

    Meher, well done.
    I have feeling here in that , INDIA lacks in very aspect.
    1]Planning & implementation.
    2] Consumer rights,and their violations.
    3] Court matter delay.
    4] Diversification of taking cases as in the interests of the beuro:bab (3):crats as like they want.

    We indians have to come all the way to concour :bab (4):the basic rights of our Consumer.
    In developed couintries, customer is considered as more than GOD.
    All the buisiness depends on the customeras demand & supply of customer policy buisness devlops.
    For that matter even OBAMA,and frenchpresident has to come here to fool us we get fooled ,but their basic rights of the consumers are well taken in their own country.
    WAKE UP SAID,
    WAKE UP SONIYAJI,:bab (22): MANMOHANJI, where are u.:bab (6):
    Take care or in another 3 years time u shall be tollped by the people of INDIA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Cheers. The Complainant in the prayer clause of the complaint has prayed for the compensation of Rs.50,000/-. On perusal of the documentary evidence produced by the Complainant, s

    Meher, well done.
    I have feeling here in that , INDIA lacks in very aspect.
    1]Planning & implementation.
    2] Consumer rights,and their violations.
    3] Court matter delay.
    4] Diversification of taking cases as in the interests of the beuro:bab (3):crats as like they want.

    We indians have to come all the way to concour :bab (4):the basic rights of our Consumer.
    In developed couintries, customer is considered as more than GOD.
    All the buisiness depends on the customeras demand & supply of customer policy buisness devlops.
    For that matter even OBAMA,and frenchpresident has to come here to fool us we get fooled ,but their basic rights of the consumers are well taken in their own country.
    WAKE UP SAID,
    WAKE UP SONIYAJI,:bab (22): MANMOHANJI, where are u.:bab (6):
    Take care or in another 3 years time u shall be tollped by the people of INDIA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Cheers. The Complainant in the prayer clause of the complaint has prayed for the compensation of Rs.50,000/-. On perusal of the documentary evidence produced by the Complainant, s

    Meher, well done.
    I have feeling here in that , INDIA lacks in very aspect.
    1]Planning & implementation.
    2] Consumer rights,and their violations.
    3] Court matter delay.
    4] Diversification of taking cases as in the interests of the beuro:bab (3):crats as like they want.

    We indians have to come all the way to concour :bab (4):the basic rights of our Consumer.
    In developed couintries, customer is considered as more than GOD.
    All the buisiness depends on the customeras demand & supply of customer policy buisness devlops.
    For that matter even OBAMA,and frenchpresident has to come here to fool us we get fooled ,but their basic rights of the consumers are well taken in their own country.
    WAKE UP SAID,
    WAKE UP SONIYAJI,:bab (22): MANMOHANJI, where are u.:bab (6):
    Take care or in another 3 years time u shall be tollped by the people of INDIA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Cheers.
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  • Originally Posted by amolk09
    this thread is really exposing the gimmicks created by builder community . But there are many buyers who are getting fooled by these gimmicks.:D

    few more gimmicks added as amenities :

    1. Cricket pitch ... i remember , how we use to play cricket on our terrace
    2. Rain dancing - Goel Ganga was projecting this as finest amenity in one of their project , imagine taking dancing in rain after reaching home from office:p
    3. Cards playing area - think people going out of home for playing 5-3-2
    4. Jacuzzi - but in open air
    5. Open air Gym - Think in summer you are doing you yoga , surya namaskar in open air


    Rain Dancing !! You know now I heard builders are going to use Pakistani Cement to reduce cost . Then I doubt one need not go to terrace for rain dancing it will be inside the flat under spongy slabs and one would dance like a mad :) I knew a few threads here where Bhujbals xxx Rolling Hxxx got this facility already in place with Indian cement !!
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  • Interesting article from Ecnomc Times

    8/10 home buyers are unhappy with their purchase: Survey - The Economic Times

    MUMBAI: Only a poor two out of 10 home buyers , both first-time as well as second-time, are satisfied with the homes they purchased as a large majority, numbering a whopping 80 per cent, are dissatisfied with the dream homes they bought, says a survey among nearly 2,000 middle and upper middleclass buyers.

    A still larger portion (92 per cent) of the respondents is highly dissatisfied with the private developers and would prefer government housing, says the survey.

    What is more interesting is that in the absence of any effective regulatory mechanism in the realty sector, 74 per cent of these people would not mind investing in shares of the same realty developer they are dissatisfied with, says the survey.

    Again as many as 70 per cent of these home-buyers repent investing their life savings in the real estate they bought even though 65 per cent of them saw their real estate price appreciate.

    Significantly, out these 80 per cent dissatisfied buyers 31 per cent have already filed or are preparing to file cases in consumer courts against their developers, and 43 per cent of those who have moved the courts or are preparing to do so have refused out-of-court settlements with the developers. Again 87 per cent those polled with double income are already looking for a better home.

    The main grouse against the developers include poor construction quality (92 per cent), poor facility management provided by the developers (69 per cent) and 67 per cent are sulking over the hidden costs. Other complaints include delayed possession, and short-changing on the floor area and carpet area among other issues.

    Within those dissatisfied lot, as many as 62 per cent are the first-time buyers while 38 per cent are second time buyers. On a scale of 1000, the customer satisfaction is a dismal 212.

    The survey-covering 28 private sector developers, was conducted in 10 cities, Delhi , Mumbai , Kolkata , Bangalore, Ahmedabad, Jaipur, Patna, Kanpur, Allahabad and Indore, between December 1 and 25, by Track2Realty, a single-stop information platform for the realty sector based in New Delhi.

    A significant number of the respondents (1,672, 34 per cent females and 66 per cent males) were buyers of mid segment houses and majority were first-time buyers (62 per cent) who shifted to the new house either from parental homes or rented accommodation and 38 per cent of were second-time buyers.
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  • NON REGISTERATION OF FLAT BY BUILDER

    BEFORE THE HON'BLE STATE CONSUMER DISPUTES REDRESSAL





    COMMISSION, MAHARASHTRA, MUMBAI







    First Appeal No. A/11/94


    (Arisen out of Order Dated 21/12/2010 in Case No. 85/10 of District Additional DCF, Pune)



    1. M/S UNIVERSAL DEVELOPERS
    NAVNATH SANKUL SURVEY NO 55/1+67/1B,2/1 & 2 GOKUL NAGAR DHANORI ROAD PUNE
    PUNE
    MAHARASHTRA


    ...........Appellant(s)


    Versus

    1. MR INDRA SAINI
    B 6 SHREE HANS NAGAR DHANORI PUNE
    PUNE
    MAHARASHTRA


    ...........Respondent(s)




    BEFORE:


    Hon'ble Mr.Justice S.B.Mhase PRESIDENT

    Hon'ble Mr. Dhanraj Khamatkar Member


    PRESENT: Mr.Nilesh Parte-Advocate for the appellant



    ORDER

    Per Mr.Justice S.B.Mhase, Hon’ble President
    Heard Mr.Nilesh Parte-Advocate for the appellant.
    This appeal takes an exception to an order passed by Additional District Consumer Disputes Redressal Forum, Pune in consumer complaint no.10/85 decided on 21/12/2010. By this order, original complaint has been allowed and the complainant/respondent is directed to pay an amount of `15,000/- to the appellants. Appellants are further directed that on receipt of amount of `15,000/- from the complainant, they shall execute the registered Agreement of Sale in favour of complainant bearing flat no.D-4 admeasuring 780 sq.ft. built up area along with the balcony on first floor in the building “Flying Heights” situated at survey no.299/2/29(Part), Lohegaon, Pune. The opponents/appellants are further directed to pay `25,000/- by way of compensation and `5000/- by way of cost of the litigation.
    Admittedly, appellants are the builders and developers. M/s.Universal Developers appears to be a partnership firm and there are three partners namely Col.Vikram Singh Varma, Capt.Momd.Hashmi and Mr.Somnath Randive. Complainant has joined each of them showing them as partner of the said firm. Complainant had booked flat no.5 located on second floor of D wing admeasuring 780 sq.ft. built up area with a common parking in the proposed building. Price of the said flat was agreed to `7 lakhs and it was also agreed that MSEB and society registration charges were to be paid by the complainant in addition to the cost of the flat. Complainant/respondent had paid an amount of `6,85,500/- and the remaining amount of `15,000/- was due from the complainant and the complainant submitted that the complainant is ready and willing to pay the said amount. However, it is a grievance of the complainant that the opponent demanded extra amount of `9 lakhs in order to register the sale deed and, therefore, complaint was filed.
    In this complaint opponents were served. However, they preferred to remain absent. It is to be noted that the notice which was issued to the original opponent nos.1&2 returned unserved with the postal remark “Unclaimed”. Thus, the presumption arises that the appellants were aware of the fact of the contents of the said envelope sent by the District Consumer Disputes Redressal Forum and, therefore, they refused to accept the said envelope. It is a deemed service and good service in the eyes of law. So far as original opponent no.3 is concerned, he was served and in spite of service, original opponent no.3 preferred to remain absent and did not file any written version. Under these circumstances there was no alternative left for the District Consumer Disputes Redressal Forum but to proceed in hearing of the case in absence of the opponents. Accordingly, complaint has been decided.
    In order to show that the complainant has paid an amount of `6,85,000/-, the complainant has produced on record receipts issued by the original opponents. Those receipts are reflected in the order in para 6 and thus, the total amount of `6,85,000/- has been paid by the complainant as per the said receipts reflected in the order of the District Consumer Disputes Redressal Forum. He has also submitted that rest of the amount of `15,000/- he is ready and willing to pay in order to get possession of the property and also the documents of the conveyance executed in his favour. Relying upon the affidavits and the statements and the statements from the allotment letter, the order has been passed. In the allotment letter itself the total consideration of the flat is stated to be `7,00,000/- including MSEB, Stamp Duty, Registration fee, Society formation and all other charges. In the allotment letter it has been also stated that the opponents confirm that they shall hand over possession of the said flat within 8 months (i.e. maximum by 28/08/2010). In case of delay in possession of the said flat, the opponents shall be liable to pay interest 9% p.a. for the entire amount paid by the complainant. Both these clauses are reflected in the allotment letter. Under these circumstances, the order has been passed by the District Consumer Disputes Redressal Forum and the said order is under challenge.
    First ground which has been tried to be taken by the Ld.counsel is that the opponents/appellants were not served properly. It is interesting to note that the address of the partnership office is stated to be Navnath Sankul, Survey No.55/1 + 67/1B, 2/1 & 2 Gokul Nagar, Dhanori Road, Pune 411 015. Along with the appeal memo, now the appellant has given his address to the State Commission and it is the same address. In the vakalatnama and appeal memo also same address is reflected. This confirms that the notice which was sent by the District Consumer Disputes Redressal Forum on the said address was issued on correct address of the opponents/appellants and when on this address notice was tendered by the postal authority it was not claimed and, therefore, returned back. Therefore, service so far as respondent nos.1&2 is concerned is complete. So far as respondent no.3 is concerned, he was/is served and acknowledgement is on record to that effect. However, the grievance is made that it is not signature of the appellant. Such a grievance itself is not tenable. In a partnership firm some partners must have accepted the envelope in the office. That does not mean that there was no service. Apart from that in case of partnership firm, law requires that one partner should be served. Here in the present matter all the three partners’ names are given. All these packets were addressed to the partnership firm showing each of the partners for the purpose of service. Therefore, whatever utmost care and precaution the complainant should have taken, complainant has taken. There is a proper service and there is no substance in the contention that the service was not proper and it was an ex-parte.

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  • NON REGISTERATION OF FLAT BY BUILDER


    Ld.counsel tried to submit that this allotment letter is not genuine. However, we are not impressed by his submission. Firstly, nobody prohibited him in participating in the proceeding before the District Consumer Disputes Redressal Forum when he was served with the notice. Secondly, rule of non traverse will apply that means if party fails to explain, when called upon to explain, it is deemed to have been accepted by the party. Apart from that whole crux of the matter is that the opponents are interested in claiming the amount of `9 lakhs over and above agreed price and because of that complaint is required to be filed. Otherwise, if the appellant is not demanding extra amount and if the complainant was ready and willing to pay the amount as per allotment letter, there was no hitch in not executing the documents as desired by the complainant and giving possession to the complainant. The contention raised by the complainant is that that appellants were demanding more money namely `9 lakhs, appears to be justifying one. In order to ascertain what is the agreement between the parties we asked Ld.counsel whether appellants are possessed of any other agreement with them which is registered under MOFA which shows that agreement between the parties was otherwise than the allotment letter. He fairly submitted that the MOFA agreement and declaration under section 4 has not been executed by the appellants. In fact by non execution of declaration under section 4 and non registration of the agreement with the complainant, appellants have committed an offence under the said Act. There is nothing with the appellant to demonstrate that any amount than the amount which has been stated by the complainant was agreed in respect of flat by way of consideration and there is failure on the part of the complainant to pay the said amount. These are the tactics usually employed and followed by builders and developers in order to harass the complainant namely, whenever they are served, they will not accept the service. They will not remain present after service. They will allow the matter to go ex-parte. After ex-parte order they will prefer appeal claiming that there is no proper service and to have another round of litigation. This is a modus operandi which we have marked in respect of several matters of builders. This appeal is also a part of the same thing. But under these circumstances, we tried to know the exact stand which he could have taken before the District Consumer Disputes Redressal Forum and the only stand which is reflected is that amount of Registration charges and Stamp Duty are not being paid towards the price and consideration. He is not demanding anything more before us. That itself shows that it is only pretext to have remand of the matter and nothing more than that. There is no substance in the appeal. Appellant has filed this appeal only to harass respondent by following dilatory practice. Therefore, for filing such unwarranted appeal, we impose cost of `5000/- on appellant which shall be deposited in Legal Aid fund of State Commission.


    ORDER


    Appeal stands rejected with cost of `5000/-.


    Cost shall be deposited in Legal Aid Fund of State Commission within three months from the date of receipt of free copy of this order. If appellant fails to deposit said cost, the Registrar shall see that certificate u/sec.25(3) is issued for recovery of said amount.


    Copies of the order be furnished to the parties.


    Pronounced


    Dated 14th February, 2011.













    PRESIDENT













    Member






    Ms.
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  • Continuing from thread :-

    https://www.indianrealestateforum.com/forum/city-forums/pune-real-estate/37738-songbirds-enerrgia-skyi-developers-bhugaon-pune/page24?t=39429&page=24

    I found one more trick by builders saying approval is got upto 7th floor and say proposal is for 15 floors. So builders are opened booking upto 7 floors and in agreement they mentioned building as 7 FLOOR building and extract money even if they got approval for say 15 floors.

    i.e. buyer who has made agreement earlier will end up by paying approx 85-90% once 7 slabs are done in case of 15 floor building this was only 50% on slabs..

    Good way and Brilliant idea to exact money as early as possible. Beware buyers from these kind of tricks...

    Bah, these builders can put even Shakuni mama to shame. :bab (45): :D

    Awesome.. what an idea! In any case, the slab wise payments are so heavily farouring the builder ... check out Megapolis... they put slabs ASAP and get 80-90% payment ... and then for plastering, color, water, electricity, flooring etc take atleast another 1.5 yrs or more! The under construction flat you booked goes up in cost by atleast 20% for the buyer ... crazy!

    +1. Spot on. Buyers pay 90% amount for 10% work.

    Other trick is if lower floors are sold more, builders will start brick work & plaster work immediately for lower floors when brick-work of higher floors are still not started. This way they get atleast 10% more.

    One more trick is builders will do floor work selectively i.e. of those flats which have been sold & demand money for it rather than doing the work floor-wise.
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  • verification of approvals

    "I found one more trick by builders saying approval is got upto 7th floor and say proposal is for 15 floors. So builders are opened booking upto 7 floors and in agreement they mentioned building as 7 FLOOR building and extract money even if they got approval for say 15 floors.

    i.e. buyer who has made agreement earlier will end up by paying approx 85-90% once 7 slabs are done in case of 15 floor building this was only 50% on slabs.."
    Promoters are very diligent in making you sign that you have asked for all documents,sanctions as laid down in MOFA and we religiously sign it. Probably before we sign such agreements actually ask for all papers known as Bankers papers and verify them or at least go through them and ask some questions,even if they are not fully understandable to us.
    We sign away our rights without knowing what our rights are.
    Verification of building approval will let you know whether project is 7 stories or 15 stories.
    We spend more time on selecting vehicles than on buying flats.Prices,mileage cost of spares etc,while we omit to do the same by checking papers,reading previous history of builder,state of infrastructure around the project.
    Probably a chart in this link will do good for our purchasing skills.
    REALTOR.com: Home Comparison Chart
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  • One more gimmick :-

    I have seen some builders doing chindhigiri by reducing the floor-ceiling height as you go up the floor. In under-constro building, generally people don't go above 2-3 floors & this is taken to advantage by the builders. From 5th or 6th floor onwards, the height is reduced. So, do check for this aspect too.

    Apart from this, nowadays rather than mentioning the distance in kms, builder mention it in time.

    Eg. Pune University - 5 mins,
    Airport - 10 mins,
    Hinjewadi - 7 mins etc.

    But in all this, they don't give the mode of transport whether it is by walking, on bike, in car or in Sukhoi 30 fighter jets. :D
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  • Originally Posted by realacres
    Apart from this, nowadays rather than mentioning the distance in kms, builder mention it in time.



    One more thing I've started noticing more and more recently is that the maps are not to scale. Maps just highlight the IT companies and retail places or main roads and show location. If you actually put address in google map, you find the actual location is not favorable .. .this is especially true for the phase 3 and beyond projects, and also projects in Bhugaon, Nande, Chande type of areas on west side and Manjari, Wagholi and surrounding areas on the east side.
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  • Originally Posted by rendezvous
    One more thing I've started noticing more and more recently is that the maps are not to scale. Maps just highlight the IT companies and retail places or main roads and show location. If you actually put address in google map, you find the actual location is not favorable .. .this is especially true for the phase 3 and beyond projects, and also projects in Bhugaon, Nande, Chande type of areas on west side and Manjari, Wagholi and surrounding areas on the east side.

    +1. The recently launched project at Punawale shows colleges & shops at Baner, Balewadi & PS as if it is walking distance from it :D.

    Who knows, very soon we may even see areas of Mumbai in the maps.
    Nariman Point at Stones throw distance *.

    * Take a stone, drive for 200 kms & then throw :D.
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  • Some time back projects in Punawale / Balewadi said - navi Mumbai airport just 90 minutes away...that sure makes the project in neighborhood of Mumbai - right?
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  • May be little unrelated...but want to share on real incident which happened with me.

    Last year I visted my UC flat in NCR...I met the site supervisor...I enquired about the facilities which they were provinding in the central club ( wanted to check what all is being built versus promised)...

    his answer - vahi sab...jo har jagah hota hai

    Not satisfied...I again pressed for a detailed answer

    his answer - bar, non-veg, veg sab milega ( and trust me...he was very sincere in replying it...no sarcasm or fun)

    I along with my friend were shocked to realize that so called construction manager was not even aware of what a club means in a residential complex vs a hang-out club

    No prize for guessing...I sold that unit this year as soon as I got a good deal
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  • quick resale

    Originally Posted by Baruch
    May be little unrelated...but want to share on real incident which happened with me.

    Last year I visted my UC flat in NCR...I met the site supervisor...I enquired about the facilities which they were provinding in the central club ( wanted to check what all is being built versus promised)...

    his answer - vahi sab...jo har jagah hota hai

    Not satisfied...I again pressed for a detailed answer

    his answer - bar, non-veg, veg sab milega ( and trust me...he was very sincere in replying it...no sarcasm or fun)

    I along with my friend were shocked to realize that so called construction manager was not even aware of what a club means in a residential complex vs a hang-out club

    No prize for guessing...I sold that unit this year as soon as I got a good deal

    As I understand it from your quick resale,the baby has been passed on to some other unsuspecting hands.Let me get it off my hands.
    Passing the buck is an universal phenomenon.
    Just an off the cuff observation, dont take it personally.
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  • Quickly ? Please re-read the post...last year versus this year

    also..when I bought...I couldnt see the baby...as it was UC

    person who bought it from me at RTM stage could see the baby...thats his choice..I didnt tell him anything wrong...

    in fact I still remember him syaing that he did a deal with me because I was the first seller in that project who criticized the builder ( he was calling many owners in that society)

    plus everything is relative...that person had sold his ancestral property in east delhi and was flush with money...in comparison he found the flat to be very " luxorious "
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